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MelissaB

(16,420 posts)
Thu Sep 19, 2019, 08:14 PM Sep 2019

Breaking: Whistleblower complaint about President Trump involves Ukraine, according to 2 people fami




Whistleblower complaint about President Trump involves Ukraine, according to two people familiar with the matter


By Ellen Nakashima ,
Shane Harris ,
Greg Miller and
Carol D. Leonnig
September 19 at 8:04 PM

A whistleblower complaint about President Trump made by an intelligence official centers on Ukraine, according to two people familiar with the matter, which has set off a struggle between Congress and the executive branch.

The complaint involved communications with a foreign leader and a “promise” that Trump made, which was so alarming that a U.S. intelligence official who had worked at the White House went to the inspector general of the intelligence community, two former U.S. officials said.

Two and a half weeks before the complaint was filed, Trump spoke with Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky, a comedian and political newcomer who was elected in a landslide in May.

That call is already under investigation by House Democrats who are examining whether Trump and his attorney Rudolph W. Giuliani sought to manipulate the Ukrainian government into helping Trump’s reelection campaign. Lawmakers have demanded a full transcript and a list of participants on the call.

More: https://www.washingtonpost.com/national-security/whistleblower-complaint-about-president-trump-involves-ukraine-according-to-two-people-familiar-with-the-matter/2019/09/19/07e33f0a-daf6-11e9-bfb1-849887369476_story.html



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Breaking: Whistleblower complaint about President Trump involves Ukraine, according to 2 people fami (Original Post) MelissaB Sep 2019 OP
BOOM! MelissaB Sep 2019 #1
Heard Conjectuure Me. Sep 2019 #2
That's what I thought at first as well lanlady Sep 2019 #6
Just heard it on CNN from the Wa Post. BigmanPigman Sep 2019 #3
Schiff may not need to subpoena anything. The whole story may be out in a couple of days StarfishSaver Sep 2019 #4
what if he lied to ukraine about doing something that would go against Putin JI7 Sep 2019 #5
It's gotta be unusually bad. Not policy. Like I bet Laura PourMeADrink Sep 2019 #10
Has the mad man put a price tag saidsimplesimon Sep 2019 #7
Hope it's something SO hottible even many GOP Laura PourMeADrink Sep 2019 #12
How many people, besides the whistleblower, know what was said and have not stepped forward? LonePirate Sep 2019 #8
The Dems in the House have the transcript Johnny2X2X Sep 2019 #9
Transcript of what exactly Johnny? Laura PourMeADrink Sep 2019 #13
The call with the Ukraine President. Johnny2X2X Sep 2019 #14
Thought timing wrong? Rudy on CNN now and he Laura PourMeADrink Sep 2019 #21
Oh jeez that's it. Negotiation on Biden dirt. Rudy Laura PourMeADrink Sep 2019 #22
Excellent question saidsimplesimon Sep 2019 #17
This also takes us right back to the 2016 RNC convention. MelissaB Sep 2019 #11
I just thought of this a few moments ago, MB!! Leghorn21 Sep 2019 #15
Let's just assume he rigged with Russia on election Laura PourMeADrink Sep 2019 #16
Hope is not going to GOTV, imo saidsimplesimon Sep 2019 #19
Me neither!!! It was actually what I expected a year ago Laura PourMeADrink Sep 2019 #20
Ah, Mittens and Mitch thrown in a ditch.... saidsimplesimon Sep 2019 #25
Brilliant Laura PourMeADrink Sep 2019 #31
"Pauly Walnuts", precious DU comment saidsimplesimon Sep 2019 #18
Note to self...add wit :) Laura PourMeADrink Sep 2019 #24
saw this in another thread.... spanone Sep 2019 #23
Game over, man. Kid Berwyn Sep 2019 #27
If true, no wonder they want to bury it. spanone Sep 2019 #28
Trump will spend the rest of his miserable life in prison. Kid Berwyn Sep 2019 #30
Thanks! Laura PourMeADrink Sep 2019 #29
All of Trump's chickens PhoenixDem Sep 2019 #26
Ok behind everyone else..dirt on Biden in Laura PourMeADrink Sep 2019 #32
Rachel saying that Barr and the White House were consulted about the Whistleblower HiloHatti Sep 2019 #33
Im 🍑 Laura PourMeADrink Sep 2019 #35
Im sorry but this is not good news. Hear me out GusBob Sep 2019 #34
All true. Will take what you say as the floor of my Laura PourMeADrink Sep 2019 #36
5. The GOP has been actively collaborating with Russia for years and they still have power. Rainbow Droid Sep 2019 #40
What do think the odds are that "they" get away with this. CentralMass Sep 2019 #37
This is important, of course, Mr.Bill Sep 2019 #38
Did Trump try to bribe the Ukrainians to investigate Biden's son? yellowcanine Sep 2019 #39
Wonder if it involves the Russian sanctions against Russia for its invasion of the Ukraine? cstanleytech Sep 2019 #41
If it's bulgy Treason, then I love it!!! RANDYWILDMAN Sep 2019 #42

lanlady

(7,133 posts)
6. That's what I thought at first as well
Thu Sep 19, 2019, 08:21 PM
Sep 2019

Given that he practically offered up McFaul and other Americans to Putin at the disastrous Helsinki Summit.

But reports are now saying it had to do with Ukraine. Did he promise Putin to lift sanctions against Russia for its actions in Crimea? I guess we'll know soon enough.

BigmanPigman

(51,560 posts)
3. Just heard it on CNN from the Wa Post.
Thu Sep 19, 2019, 08:16 PM
Sep 2019

The moron did have Ghouliani go there to get dirt on Biden and he did speak to the Ukrainian leader at the end of July.

JI7

(89,239 posts)
5. what if he lied to ukraine about doing something that would go against Putin
Thu Sep 19, 2019, 08:19 PM
Sep 2019

you know how he is always just lying about shit ? he might have promised he would do something he had no intention of doing but in the hopes of getting something from ukraine.

like"say Biden did............, and i will make Putin..........

 

Laura PourMeADrink

(42,770 posts)
10. It's gotta be unusually bad. Not policy. Like I bet
Thu Sep 19, 2019, 08:42 PM
Sep 2019

The MF said he didn't care if someone was murdered. What's worse than shitty bad immoral policy?

saidsimplesimon

(7,888 posts)
7. Has the mad man put a price tag
Thu Sep 19, 2019, 08:24 PM
Sep 2019

on the Ukraine?

Fasten your seat belts. It's going to be a rocky ride if we are to defeat this traitor.

LonePirate

(13,407 posts)
8. How many people, besides the whistleblower, know what was said and have not stepped forward?
Thu Sep 19, 2019, 08:36 PM
Sep 2019

Every single one of them is an accomplice in this.

I wonder if this is why Coats recently departed as DNI.

Johnny2X2X

(18,967 posts)
14. The call with the Ukraine President.
Thu Sep 19, 2019, 08:48 PM
Sep 2019

Where he and Giuliani likely asked for dirt on Biden in exchange for $250 million in military aid.

 

Laura PourMeADrink

(42,770 posts)
22. Oh jeez that's it. Negotiation on Biden dirt. Rudy
Thu Sep 19, 2019, 09:11 PM
Sep 2019

Half admitting now. Shit just hoped it was on the murder level.

saidsimplesimon

(7,888 posts)
17. Excellent question
Thu Sep 19, 2019, 08:59 PM
Sep 2019

It is possible that wise warriors know when to regroup for a major battle on another day.

The momentum is building.

MelissaB

(16,420 posts)
11. This also takes us right back to the 2016 RNC convention.
Thu Sep 19, 2019, 08:43 PM
Sep 2019
Breaking; Which leads us back to the RNC 2016 Convention. Hello Pauly Walnuts & Ambassador Kislyak


 

Laura PourMeADrink

(42,770 posts)
16. Let's just assume he rigged with Russia on election
Thu Sep 19, 2019, 08:50 PM
Sep 2019

Plus all the other shitty things he's done.

It is just pure logic he is capable and has done lots of other things. It will all come out eventually. People hate him and are driven to find more.

Let's just hope he doesn't get reelected.

 

Laura PourMeADrink

(42,770 posts)
20. Me neither!!! It was actually what I expected a year ago
Thu Sep 19, 2019, 09:07 PM
Sep 2019

That we'd never run against him. Will they roll out Mitch Romney? Lol.

saidsimplesimon

(7,888 posts)
25. Ah, Mittens and Mitch thrown in a ditch....
Thu Sep 19, 2019, 09:13 PM
Sep 2019

The only way I can handle the slowwww movement on the arc of justice is jabbing those criminals in the other party for crimes they are yet to be punished for. Oh yes, I do mean punished to the full extent of the law.

Kid Berwyn

(14,789 posts)
30. Trump will spend the rest of his miserable life in prison.
Thu Sep 19, 2019, 09:23 PM
Sep 2019

...Where he should have been long ago.

And if it is true, may all those who were in on this conspiracy also find accommodations in the penitentiary.

 

HiloHatti

(79 posts)
33. Rachel saying that Barr and the White House were consulted about the Whistleblower
Thu Sep 19, 2019, 09:29 PM
Sep 2019

Which is against the law. And that Barr is threatening to prosecute the Whistleblower saying the Law isn’t protecting him/her. This lawlessness is OUTRAGEOUS and we need to take to the streets. Trump, with Barr’s backing, is claiming to be above the law and can’t even be investigated, as claimed to the SDNY as an appeal to turning over his tax returns to the State of New York.

GusBob

(7,286 posts)
34. Im sorry but this is not good news. Hear me out
Thu Sep 19, 2019, 09:34 PM
Sep 2019

I certify that I am not a bot lol

1. 95% of Americans dont know what the Ukraine is

2. He got away with it before

3. If it involves defeating Biden the GOP and his
base will regard it as patriotic

4. The media owners are loving this scandal. Trump
means ratings. The journalists might be into the truth but their bosses will cover it up for money

CentralMass

(15,265 posts)
37. What do think the odds are that "they" get away with this.
Thu Sep 19, 2019, 09:51 PM
Sep 2019

The evidence to date is that they can do whatever they want.

Mr.Bill

(24,228 posts)
38. This is important, of course,
Thu Sep 19, 2019, 09:58 PM
Sep 2019

but the sad thing is if you stood on a street corner tomorrow and stopped 100 people 99 of them couldn't find Ukraine on a map. Even more sad is Trump would be one of the 99.

yellowcanine

(35,693 posts)
39. Did Trump try to bribe the Ukrainians to investigate Biden's son?
Thu Sep 19, 2019, 10:02 PM
Sep 2019

Sure seems like it. What do you think, Lindsey Graham?

cstanleytech

(26,222 posts)
41. Wonder if it involves the Russian sanctions against Russia for its invasion of the Ukraine?
Thu Sep 19, 2019, 10:10 PM
Sep 2019

You know like maybe a promise to try and lessen the sanctions to Russia if Russia did Trump a favor or promised to not invade anyone else until after x date?

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