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matt819

(10,749 posts)
Fri Aug 23, 2019, 02:12 PM Aug 2019

Okay, now he's full on insane

Of course, he'll do or say something over the weekend that is worse, but this really is a new low.

Let's just say that the Cabinet initiates whatever needs to be done under the 25th Amendment. On the one hand, maybe Trump would be gone. Yay.

On the other hand, Pence would be president?

You know, I would think that for Democrats it would be better for Trump to remain in office. Pence scares me just as much, though in different ways. The RW religious extremism is terrifying, and it would embolden (even more) the evangelicals.

Sure, it might not happen, but if it does, what's your take?

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FiveGoodMen

(20,018 posts)
2. But...if Pence's religious views worry you...
Fri Aug 23, 2019, 02:17 PM
Aug 2019

Remember that he represents 1 in 3 Americans on that score.

100,000,000 nasty pieces of Evangelical.

Get rid of him, that's one down.

One.

leftieNanner

(15,081 posts)
5. I was just going to say that
Fri Aug 23, 2019, 02:31 PM
Aug 2019

Are Acting cabinet members who are not Senate confirmed empowered to do so?

maxsolomon

(33,302 posts)
6. No he is not. He has a Personality Disorder, but he knows right from wrong.
Fri Aug 23, 2019, 02:33 PM
Aug 2019

He's not "insane" in the sense of a ranting Schizophrenic on the street.

The Cabinet thinks his trolling of the Libs is fucking hilarious, as do he voters and media sycophants.

shanti

(21,675 posts)
9. Add dementia to the mix
Fri Aug 23, 2019, 02:50 PM
Aug 2019

and this is what we have here. Saying crazy things and not remembering that he said them.

Siwsan

(26,259 posts)
10. I agree he has a personality disorder, but I also believe he has serious cognitive issues
Fri Aug 23, 2019, 02:52 PM
Aug 2019

And I'm speaking from experience gained from dealing with several members of my family who had Dementia related conditions. I see a whole lot of behaviors and affects that set off alarm bells.

maxsolomon

(33,302 posts)
12. We said that about Reagan
Fri Aug 23, 2019, 03:05 PM
Aug 2019

fat lot of good it did.

If we're going to use that in the campaign, I suggest not nominating someone older than Trump!

Siwsan

(26,259 posts)
14. I look at the genetic component for the risk - trump*'s father died from Alzheimer's
Fri Aug 23, 2019, 03:37 PM
Aug 2019

Believe me, I worry about that possibility, every single day and don't cast that opinion lightly.

I haven't read about this 'curse' being present in, say, the Biden family. I don't know about his father, but I seem to recall his mother lived to a full and fiesty old age. I don't worry about Joe's occasional 'gaffs' because, well, he's always made them and when confronted, he admits his mistakes. In my experience, people with cognitive diseases refuse to admit there is a problem.

And, even at Reagan's worse, I didn't worry that he'd trigger a nuclear incident. The people surrounding him were pretty vile but they weren't nearly as cultish as what we are seeing, now. IMHO, of course.

stopdiggin

(11,295 posts)
7. I'd rather see the GOP pay the full price
Fri Aug 23, 2019, 02:45 PM
Aug 2019

Pence (while only the lesser of two evils) would be, marginally, better for the country ...
On the other hand, Trump's removal provides some political "cover" for people, and a party, that have been totally complicit in all of the shame and degradation inflicted to this point. I don't think THAT is a desirable result. I hate to say it, as I'm generally fairly pragmatic, but I think the lesson to the country (and the American people) needs to be driven home. Painfully. This is what happens when you are cavalier with your politics and institutions.

Arazi

(6,829 posts)
11. Pence would leave office in an orderly transition if he loses. Trump will not
Fri Aug 23, 2019, 02:54 PM
Aug 2019

Thats about the only benefit to Pence

The Genealogist

(4,723 posts)
13. The crazy train has been full steam ahead this week
Fri Aug 23, 2019, 03:31 PM
Aug 2019

It chugged through kookoo for cocoa puffs junction and Wackadoodle Station. Who knows where it will end up.

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