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Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin

(107,985 posts)
Fri Aug 23, 2019, 02:00 PM Aug 2019

Bury the medals of Wounded Knee -- Sen. Elizabeth Warren signs on

Sen. Elizabeth Warren will introduce Senate legislation matching a bipartisan House bill that would rescind 20 Congressional Medals of Honor awarded to soldiers who took part in the 1890 Wounded Knee massacre in South Dakota.

The "Remove the Stain Act" is a project of Washington's U.S. Rep. Denny Heck, joined by Republican Rep. Paul Cook of California, and Rep. Deb Haaland of New Mexico. Haaland, a Democrat, is an enrolled member of the Laguna Pueblo people.

A half-dozen Democratic presidential candidates, at the first Native American Presidential Forum in Sioux City, Iowa earlier this week, endorsed the legislation.

Warren has gone further, saying she will introduce a Senate version. In a statement, first run by Huffington Post, she stated:

"At the Wounded Knee massacre, hundreds of Lakota men, women and children were slaughtered by soldiers who received Medals of Honor. These acts of violence were not heroic. They were tragic and profoundly shameful.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/bury-the-medals-of-wounded-knee-sen-elizabeth-warren-signs-on/ar-AAGejaW?pfr=1

Cue Trump's Pocahontas quips.

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grumpyduck

(6,235 posts)
1. The criteria for awading the Medal of Honor were different
Fri Aug 23, 2019, 02:13 PM
Aug 2019

back then. Some soldiers received it for actions that would probably just get a battle ribbon today.

 

Marengo

(3,477 posts)
7. Would you be on board for revoking all MOHs awarded during the Indian Wars? You know...
Fri Aug 23, 2019, 08:23 PM
Aug 2019

Genocide.

 

Marengo

(3,477 posts)
3. While they are at it, they should include MOHs for the entire Indian War period, Philippine...
Fri Aug 23, 2019, 03:24 PM
Aug 2019

Insurrection, Boxer Rebellion, Haiti (sorry Smedley), Nicaragua, Dominican Campaign, Vera Cruz ( oops, no MOHs for you at all Smedley) etc., etc.

EX500rider

(10,847 posts)
6. Can't tell if you are being serious or not ..I suspect not....
Fri Aug 23, 2019, 05:20 PM
Aug 2019

...but it is certainly possible to do heroic things above & beyond the call of duty in dubious wars.

 

Marengo

(3,477 posts)
8. Only partly in jest, I do wonder why they haven't called for the revocation of all MOHs awarded...
Sat Aug 24, 2019, 11:09 AM
Aug 2019

During the Indian Wars, being genocidal in nature.

EX500rider

(10,847 posts)
10. And actually having recently read "Old Gimlet Eye: The Adventures of Smedley D. Butler"...
Sat Aug 24, 2019, 05:52 PM
Aug 2019

...most of his medals were giving for stuff that today would have barely rated a Bronze Star, his Boxer Rebellion action rating a Silver I thought.

"After the occupation of Veracruz, many military personnel received the Medal of Honor, an unusually high number that somewhat diminished the prestige of the award. The army presented one, nine went to Marines and 46 were bestowed upon naval personnel. During World War I Butler, then a major, attempted to return his medal, explaining he had done nothing to deserve it. The medal was returned to him with orders to keep it and to wear it as well."

 

Marengo

(3,477 posts)
11. Old Barnum likely thought Sgt. Hanley's MOH was well deserved but you are certainly right. I...
Sun Aug 25, 2019, 10:27 AM
Aug 2019

Always found it interesting there were not a wider selection of decorations for valor until fairly recently. Other than some state issued decorations and mentions in dispatch IIRC.

jcmaine72

(1,773 posts)
9. Oh Christ!
Sat Aug 24, 2019, 11:38 AM
Aug 2019

Yeah, this will play well if she's the nominee. I can just see dotard using this to stain Warren as being the military-hating, anti-American Commie candidate versus him, the pro-military, patriotic, red-blooded champion of American values. The media, as they always do with his vile secretions, will lap it all up, even those outlets feigning outrage over his pomposity. There will be no nuanced discussion of what actually happened at Wounded Knee, just the provocative, ad-friendly clickbait headline.

This would be a wonderful and just piece of legislation that corrects a grievous historical wrong, but one that would have be better introduced after a-hole #1 is voted out of the WH. Why give him more ammo if you already know there will be no intelligent discussion or context provided?

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