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Impossible Whopper vs Whopper (Original Post) underpants Aug 2019 OP
Thanks; may try it, elleng Aug 2019 #1
Please note vegans and vegetarians need to ask to have this cooked in the OVEN unless you want it UniteFightBack Aug 2019 #2
True. She actually didn't ask. underpants Aug 2019 #3
Yeah it would of been a deal breaker for me but then on the website I saw that helpful UniteFightBack Aug 2019 #4
oven? There was never an oven when I worked at BK. SlogginThroughIt Aug 2019 #27
Me, too customerserviceguy Aug 2019 #31
those food pics are fraud nt msongs Aug 2019 #5
I gotta kinda laugh zipplewrath Aug 2019 #6
I've found customerserviceguy Aug 2019 #32
I had one yesterday. We abandoned McDonald's so I could try it. LAS14 Aug 2019 #7
Yes there was no juice. underpants Aug 2019 #16
Tried one yesterday Kilgore Aug 2019 #8
I have a vegetarian friend in Los Angeles MurrayDelph Aug 2019 #23
Hey pants, I was researching good veg burgers for my brother today, came across a seriously Leghorn21 Aug 2019 #9
Thanks LegHorn underpants Aug 2019 #12
Why does it still have so many calories if it's made from a plant? W_HAMILTON Aug 2019 #10
Fat is what makes things flavorful.... unfortunately, whether canola oil or beef fat... LAS14 Aug 2019 #22
It's the goop customerserviceguy Aug 2019 #33
It was like a regular Whopper. roamer65 Aug 2019 #11
looks like the flavor is based on salt. pansypoo53219 Aug 2019 #13
underpants Aug 2019 #18
Impossible Five Guys burger? I doubt it. Whoppers suck. gulliver Aug 2019 #14
I still haven't tried it. I want try it as soon as they are available here. Sapient Donkey Aug 2019 #15
It's SO way better for the planet!! nt LAS14 Aug 2019 #21
Amen!!!! Beakybird Aug 2019 #29
Tried one today superpatriotman Aug 2019 #17
LOL... GaYellowDawg Aug 2019 #28
It has about the same calories and fat, what doc03 Aug 2019 #19
To save the planet! Have you read stats on polution caused by cattle for burgers??? nt LAS14 Aug 2019 #20
You know human life also causes polution same as cattle or any other doc03 Aug 2019 #24
I encourage you to keep an open mind. Ms. Toad Aug 2019 #25
Some people don't like to eat animal flesh and for those that do it's a good option if you want UniteFightBack Aug 2019 #26
To be holier than people who eat real meat. n/t customerserviceguy Aug 2019 #34
Oh. I thought this was going to be about one of Donald Trump's lies vs. another smirkymonkey Aug 2019 #30
I tried one blogslut Aug 2019 #35
 

UniteFightBack

(8,231 posts)
2. Please note vegans and vegetarians need to ask to have this cooked in the OVEN unless you want it
Thu Aug 22, 2019, 08:22 PM
Aug 2019

co mingling with animal juices.

underpants

(182,604 posts)
3. True. She actually didn't ask.
Thu Aug 22, 2019, 08:25 PM
Aug 2019

Someone at a meeting - the first time I had one - who found out about them being cooked on the same grill and said NO.

 

UniteFightBack

(8,231 posts)
4. Yeah it would of been a deal breaker for me but then on the website I saw that helpful
Thu Aug 22, 2019, 08:26 PM
Aug 2019

suggestion so I'm really looking forward to trying it myself!

customerserviceguy

(25,183 posts)
31. Me, too
Fri Aug 23, 2019, 12:44 AM
Aug 2019

back in 1983, we only had a broiler. Oh, we did have a microwave oven, but regular Whoppers got put into it to melt the cheese sometimes. Surely, some meat splatter occurred.

If someone's a purist, avoid BK, Mickey D's, etc. Of course, you can hope to take satisfaction in seeing so many people fooled by fake meat that it might be easier someday to outlaw the real stuff.

zipplewrath

(16,646 posts)
6. I gotta kinda laugh
Thu Aug 22, 2019, 08:31 PM
Aug 2019

If this fake meat burger tastes "just like" their regular burger, that probably says more about their regular burger than anything else.

customerserviceguy

(25,183 posts)
32. I've found
Fri Aug 23, 2019, 12:46 AM
Aug 2019

that if you put enough goop on eggplant, it starts to taste OK. It is really a commentary on how little actual meat there is in a real Whopper, and how much other stuff there is.

LAS14

(13,769 posts)
7. I had one yesterday. We abandoned McDonald's so I could try it.
Thu Aug 22, 2019, 08:33 PM
Aug 2019

I thought the texture was perfect. I thought the taste was like a hamburger, but not a very tasty hamburger. What was missing was the juicyness. If I was given one without knowing what it was there's no way I would have guessed veggie.

underpants

(182,604 posts)
16. Yes there was no juice.
Thu Aug 22, 2019, 09:45 PM
Aug 2019

But most fast fast food burgers don't have that. Wendy's used to have it. We moved from Ohio to Virginia (mid 70's) and were surprised that there we no Wendy's Pringle's or Stake n Shakes.


BK's thing, to me, has always bee air. Lots of lettuce and big slices of onion. They look bigger. And some serious fat. There is a BK near here that looks like a coal burning plant on midday.

Kilgore

(1,733 posts)
8. Tried one yesterday
Thu Aug 22, 2019, 08:33 PM
Aug 2019

Nothing about it would make me order it again. Was not bad, just meh. Will not pay extra for meh.

MurrayDelph

(5,292 posts)
23. I have a vegetarian friend in Los Angeles
Thu Aug 22, 2019, 11:03 PM
Aug 2019

When I'm down there we get together for lunch at Cheesecake Factory, so he can order one.

I am a super-taster with food intolerances, so most vegetables taste horrible to me, and impostor food is my idea of Hell (I have to keep a close eye on ingredients).

The first time we got together at CF after they added it to their menu and insisted I try a piece.🍰

It was a better impostor than most veggie burgers, but dated nothing like a good burger.

underpants

(182,604 posts)
18. ✅
Thu Aug 22, 2019, 09:48 PM
Aug 2019

I don't add salt to anything except lettuce but I did suck down that soda...but refills are free.

gulliver

(13,168 posts)
14. Impossible Five Guys burger? I doubt it. Whoppers suck.
Thu Aug 22, 2019, 09:33 PM
Aug 2019

I have to admit I'm waiting for lab grown beef with lab grown fat. Sure, I'll try the veggie burgers (and I think they should be allowed to call them "burgers" ), but I'm skeptical.

Sapient Donkey

(1,568 posts)
15. I still haven't tried it. I want try it as soon as they are available here.
Thu Aug 22, 2019, 09:37 PM
Aug 2019

Last edited Fri Aug 23, 2019, 12:16 AM - Edit history (1)

I had the one at Carl's Junior. It's the impossible burger, but rather the beyond meat patties that are used. I found that acceptable...

Although, as you've put up in the comparison images, it's not really healthier outside of less cholesterol. If I am aiming for health, then it's probably best for me to avoid either of those. So that really leaves the reason of sustainability to go that with those burgers. Which I am down for, but I also don't eat a whole lot of burgers anyway.

doc03

(35,295 posts)
24. You know human life also causes polution same as cattle or any other
Thu Aug 22, 2019, 11:07 PM
Aug 2019

animal. I do eat BOCA burgers sometimes, they are not bad but I like real meat when I pay $5 for a burger at a restaurant.

Ms. Toad

(33,992 posts)
25. I encourage you to keep an open mind.
Thu Aug 22, 2019, 11:10 PM
Aug 2019
https://www.chelseagreen.com/product/defending-beef/

Nicolette Hahn Niman is an environmental lawyer and long-time vegetarian who married a rancher.

A review of her book from Mother Jones

"A longtime critic of industrial agriculture and a lawyer by training, Niman mounts a lawyerly case for pasture-based beef production. She does so from an interested position. She's the wife of Bill Niman, one of the nation's most celebrated grass-based ranchers. But critics who want to dismiss Niman's advocacy on economic-interest grounds have to grapple with the mountains of evidence she brings to bear. The main ecological question that haunts grass-fed beef involves climate change. Cows emit methane, a greenhouse gas far more potent than carbon, when they burp, which is often. But by grazing, they also promote healthy, flourishing grasslands, which suck carbon from the atmosphere and store it in soil. In doing so, they convert a wild vegetation that people can't digest into a highly nourishing foodstuff. So on balance, do cows contribute to or mitigate climate change? The conventional view holds that the burps win. Niman casts more than reasonable doubt on that verdict. Citing loads of research, she argues that enteric emissions (methane from burps) are likely overstated and can be curtailed by breeding and techniques like abundant salt licks, and more than offset by the carbon-gulping capacity of intensive grazing (where farmers run dense herds through a pasture for a short time, and then give the land plenty of time to recover). She also shows that healthy pastures also provide plenty of other benefits, including habitat for pollinating insects and birds, which are declining rapidly as industrial grain farming—mostly for grain to feed confined animals—expands.”--Tom Philpott, Mother Jones, Best Food Books of 2014


There are significant portions of the earth that cannot produce food directly for human consumption, but which can be used for cattle grazing. Such farms are not pollutants, the way concentrated factory farms are. Virtually all of the calculations for sustainability (e.g. Frances Moore Lappé) ignore both of these realities.

My father's ranch matches the description above - It is separated into a number of smaller pastures which cattle graze to the ground (unlike when they are given the entire pasture and pick and choose). Once a smaller pasture is fully grazed, the cattle are moved to another portion of the pasture, etc. This practice is similar to the burns native people in Australia and other places use to give plants and grasses a fresh start, which encourages robust rejuvination. The cattle are fed as well as they are when they graze the entire pasture, and are happy grazing on hilly, sometimes craggy pasture, with a creek running through it and ample shade trees - all of which make it competely unuseful to grow vegetable matter for consumption by humans. The pasture is more vibrant due to the managed grazing, and (as noted above) this also contributes to a desireable habitat for not ony pollenating insects and birds, but any number of other critters whose happy homes are all too often sacrificed as farmers raze more and more tree claims and shelterbelts in the race to make ends meet growning vegetation for humans.

Our shelterbelt used to be one of 4 between our house and the highway. Every other shelterbelt between our house and the highway has been razed to create more cropland.
 

UniteFightBack

(8,231 posts)
26. Some people don't like to eat animal flesh and for those that do it's a good option if you want
Thu Aug 22, 2019, 11:14 PM
Aug 2019

to cut back. I'm really surprised I would have to explain this.

 

smirkymonkey

(63,221 posts)
30. Oh. I thought this was going to be about one of Donald Trump's lies vs. another
Thu Aug 22, 2019, 11:49 PM
Aug 2019

one of his lies. My mistake.

blogslut

(37,982 posts)
35. I tried one
Fri Aug 23, 2019, 01:41 AM
Aug 2019

It was adequate. Between the bun, the sauce, the pickles and the lettuce (no tomato for me) it gave meat-like heft to the experience.

Pre-made veggie burgers are okay but they're too easy to overcook. I'd rather make my own from scratch.

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