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captain queeg

(10,036 posts)
Thu Aug 22, 2019, 12:43 PM Aug 2019

Is Trump losing it or trolling us?

Seems to be a pretty even divide between those who think Trump is losing his mind and those who think he is playing us. I’m on the side he’s going off the deep end. I don’t think he’s smart enough to be thinking ahead and following thru. Too impulsive, I think his mouth just vomits out whatever ridiculous thought he is having. What do you think?


47 votes, 4 passes | Time left: Unlimited
Diabolical plan to manipulate us
6 (13%)
Impending mental & emotional collapse
41 (87%)
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Is Trump losing it or trolling us? (Original Post) captain queeg Aug 2019 OP
Shouldn't you have the "Both" option? n/t DonaldsRump Aug 2019 #1
+1 no_hypocrisy Aug 2019 #2
This genxlib Aug 2019 #3
Agree. eom Control-Z Aug 2019 #8
+a brazillion! nt tblue37 Aug 2019 #10
+1 H2O Man Aug 2019 #16
Both would be my answer. nt PufPuf23 Aug 2019 #27
+1 demigoddess Aug 2019 #31
+1. He is a crazy asshole. dalton99a Aug 2019 #37
The Congressional, SDNY and NY AG investigations NoMoreRepugs Aug 2019 #4
Another option Cirque du So-What Aug 2019 #5
Agree with your assessment Mike 03 Aug 2019 #6
Never saw his... Mike Nelson Aug 2019 #7
He just NEEDS attention underpants Aug 2019 #9
Egomaniac needing attention, reminds of the story of Indian tribes offering to kill Klaus Kinski Beringia Aug 2019 #11
Had to read the link, the name Kinski rang a bell but I didn't remember him. captain queeg Aug 2019 #17
Both. n/t demmiblue Aug 2019 #12
IMO he doesn't really understand what trolling means. There's no strategic objective to what he.. brush Aug 2019 #39
He controls the narrative. bermudat Aug 2019 #13
I think he's trolling badly because he's losing it. nt Javaman Aug 2019 #14
He's an asshole Dirty Socialist Aug 2019 #15
Doesn't really matter which. He still needs to be stopped... Wounded Bear Aug 2019 #18
It's a combo of both. He has orders and he's delusional. Claritie Pixie Aug 2019 #19
50/50% IdealsAndReal42 Aug 2019 #20
Both playing us and losing it. I'd do #2, but not sure at all about Hortensis Aug 2019 #21
Is there a difference? apnu Aug 2019 #22
He has admitted to trolling. He understands the attention economy GusBob Aug 2019 #23
Getting punked how? So he's trolling when he causes the DOW to drop by 800 and 600 points? brush Aug 2019 #33
Getting punked by repeating his bullshit GusBob Aug 2019 #36
They repeat the bullshit but now all media outlets but FOX and winger talk radio don't hesitate to. brush Aug 2019 #42
The website area51 Aug 2019 #24
Who could even tell anymore Bettie Aug 2019 #25
All of the above. Nt BootinUp Aug 2019 #26
trump is a troll but rampartc Aug 2019 #28
If Florida Bull Aug 2019 #29
Link to the Madman President captain queeg Aug 2019 #30
Wait, do you mean... HardLineDem Aug 2019 #32
He's LOST it. spanone Aug 2019 #34
Why don't you have an option for trolling if you put that in your OP ...not the same as 'diabolical UniteFightBack Aug 2019 #35
He's losing it but if called on it, he is trolling us, and it is just a joke... kentuck Aug 2019 #38
trolling us... myohmy2 Aug 2019 #40
Before and immediately after the election Dagstead Bumwood Aug 2019 #41
losing it Nitram Aug 2019 #43
Dimwit Trump has long utilized the notion of "No such thing as bad publicity". lambchopp59 Aug 2019 #44

NoMoreRepugs

(9,260 posts)
4. The Congressional, SDNY and NY AG investigations
Thu Aug 22, 2019, 12:52 PM
Aug 2019

are scaring the crap out of the Orange Menace.... his poor Rethug internal polling numbers just add to the pressure.

Mike Nelson

(9,903 posts)
7. Never saw his...
Thu Aug 22, 2019, 12:56 PM
Aug 2019

... TV show. All I knew is he was from NY and upgraded his wives... I think he lost it before announcing he was running for President.

Beringia

(4,314 posts)
11. Egomaniac needing attention, reminds of the story of Indian tribes offering to kill Klaus Kinski
Thu Aug 22, 2019, 01:17 PM
Aug 2019

(Supposedly Kinski was always off raving about something or other and the Indians thought he was crazy and offered to kill him).



“Kinski’s fits can partly be explained by his egocentric character. Egocentric is perhaps not the right word; he was an outright egomaniac. Whenever there was a serious accident, it became a big problem because, all of a sudden, he was no longer the center of attention. He was no longer important.

[On the set of Fitzcarraldo], a lumberman was bitten by a snake while cutting a tree. This was the most dangerous snake of all. It only takes a few minutes before cardiac arrest occurs. He dropped the saw and thought about it for five seconds and then he grabbed his saw again and cut off his foot. It saved his life, because the camp and serum was 20 minutes away. When that happened, I knew Kinski would start raving with some trifling excuse, because now he was just a marginal figure.

In another incident, a plane crashed, which was bringing people here. Luckily, they all survived, but some were seriously injured. Kinski saw that he was no longer in demand. So, he threw a fit, because his coffee was only lukewarm that morning. For hours he screamed at me, that close to my face. Incredible. I didn’t know how to calm him down, and then I had an inspiration. I went to my hut, where, for months I had hidden a piece of chocolate. We would almost have killed one another for something like that. I went back to him, going right into his face and ate the chocolate. All of a sudden he was quiet. This was utterly beyond him.

Kinski’s raving fits strained things with our Indian extras. They were Machiguengas, these two here, and a lot of Campas, too. Normally, they speak very softly and physical contacts are gentle. They were afraid. They would sit huddled together, whispering.

Towards the end of shooting, the Indians offered to kill Kinski for me. They said: "Shall we kill him for you?” And I said: “No, for God’s sake! I still need him for shooting. Leave him to me!”

I declined, at the time, but they were dead serious. They would have killed him, undoubtedly, if I had wanted it. I at once regretted that I held the Indians back from their purpose.“

-Werner Herzog, via his documentary My Best Fiend (1999)

https://oldhollywood.tumblr.com/post/605435674/werner-herzog-speaking-at-the-british-film

captain queeg

(10,036 posts)
17. Had to read the link, the name Kinski rang a bell but I didn't remember him.
Thu Aug 22, 2019, 02:12 PM
Aug 2019

Very interesting. If only we had someone willing and able to rid us of the orange abomination like the Indians in the story.

brush

(53,475 posts)
39. IMO he doesn't really understand what trolling means. There's no strategic objective to what he..
Sat Aug 24, 2019, 09:57 AM
Aug 2019

Last edited Sat Aug 24, 2019, 10:44 AM - Edit history (1)

does. It's all impulse and reaction to whatever happens, to whatever others do or say about him and subsequently whatever comes to his adderol-addled brain.

Anyone who thinks that fool is thinking clearly and is on top of things is not thinking clearly themselves.

bermudat

(1,329 posts)
13. He controls the narrative.
Thu Aug 22, 2019, 01:27 PM
Aug 2019

While the media is salivating over his lies, his administration is dismantling everything most folks think is good and more importantly decent about the USA. There is absolutely no decency in the current administration.

Dirty Socialist

(3,248 posts)
15. He's an asshole
Thu Aug 22, 2019, 01:45 PM
Aug 2019

And he’s trolling us
https://video.search.yahoo.com/video/play;_ylt=AwrDQ2pl015dyGgAlUy3mWRH;_ylu=X3oDMTByZWc0dGJtBHNlYwNzcgRzbGsDdmlkBHZ0aWQDBGdwb3MDMQ--?p=I’m+an+asshole+dennis+leary&vid=ae72640da8d41d01c036174b5855679d&turl=https%3A%2F%2Ftse1.mm.bing.net%2Fth%3Fid%3DOVP.rOLhlfOUVQCZVAwBvrgFPwHgFo%26pid%3DApi%26h%3D150%26w%3D250%26c%3D7%26rs%3D1&rurl=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DUrgpZ0fUixs&tit=Denis+Leary+-+Asshole+%28Official+Uncensored+Version%29&c=0&h=150&w=250&l=281&sigr=11ba0o23v&sigt=11jel8c0i&sigi=12q2gjd9e&age=1245192348&fr2=p%3As%2Cv%3Av&fr=yfp-hrmob&tt=b

IdealsAndReal42

(89 posts)
20. 50/50%
Thu Aug 22, 2019, 02:32 PM
Aug 2019

A lot of his crappy statements come from evident mental disorder. But he's also a Provocative In Chief. He clearly enjoy mess up with everything because it gaves him audience.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
21. Both playing us and losing it. I'd do #2, but not sure at all about
Thu Aug 22, 2019, 02:37 PM
Aug 2019

the collapse part. He's apparently been raging and getting worse for over 3 years, but for all I know, with those surrounding him hiding the worst and trying to keep him going, might have another 3 without ever decompensating to an end.

GusBob

(7,286 posts)
23. He has admitted to trolling. He understands the attention economy
Thu Aug 22, 2019, 02:57 PM
Aug 2019

He called his first campaign “the greatest infomercial ever” he is continuing to employ the antics that got him elected

Most recently he admitted to trolling, when he met with RW social media figures he told them he tweets outrageous stuff just to see it as breaking news

I would add he is not trolling us per se, some DUers are starting to get it, and a few serious journalists as well

But most of the rest of the media are getting punked

brush

(53,475 posts)
33. Getting punked how? So he's trolling when he causes the DOW to drop by 800 and 600 points?
Sat Aug 24, 2019, 09:26 AM
Aug 2019

Nah, he's just a megalomaniacal narcissist completely out of his depth as president. He should've stayed in his little real estate/hotel racket where he could continue getting away with selling his brand and plastering his name on hotels and condo buildings he really doesn't own, cheating vendors, running scam side businesses and using his lawyers and fixers and deeper pockets to intimidate those he cheated from getting legal recourse. He could still be doing that instead of being exposed as the actual blustering, debacle-a-day blunderer that he is.

He might think he's trolling his opponents and the media but he's actually screwing up the world economy with this foolish trade war.

And he thinks he's the chosen one (he actually had the almost comical chutzpah to say that out loud in front of TV cameras and the nation). He also retweeted that he is the king of the Jews.

Trolling my ass, he's not even close to being able to handle the job and is in way, way over the fake, blond, bird's nest on his head.

GusBob

(7,286 posts)
36. Getting punked by repeating his bullshit
Sat Aug 24, 2019, 09:51 AM
Aug 2019

Its happening right now with 10-15 million vote win in 2016 comments

Your comments otherwise are correct

The narcissist in him demands attention

Social media is run by the attention economy

brush

(53,475 posts)
42. They repeat the bullshit but now all media outlets but FOX and winger talk radio don't hesitate to.
Sat Aug 24, 2019, 10:01 AM
Aug 2019

to say he's a liar so it's really not trolling if it's ridiculed and called lies.

A year ago ihe was given the benefit of the doubt that he was maybe trolling, but since then the media has lost it's reluctance to call him out. They no longer call what he does untruths or inaccuracies, they call him a liar now.

Everyone knows the 10-15 million vote foolishness was a straight out lie, not a troll.

Bettie

(15,998 posts)
25. Who could even tell anymore
Thu Aug 22, 2019, 03:22 PM
Aug 2019

I've got no idea what's up with that whole situation, but it gets more depressing and maddening every day.

Florida Bull

(103 posts)
29. If
Thu Aug 22, 2019, 04:16 PM
Aug 2019

If Trump were sane and strategic, he would probably be calm enough to push for (if not pass) spending on infrastructure and ‘all-payer rate setting’ (with limits on the cost of medications).

HardLineDem

(26 posts)
32. Wait, do you mean...
Fri Aug 23, 2019, 12:40 PM
Aug 2019

...that the President of the United States is feigning insanity FOR FUN?

(and making all the characters in Dr. Strangelove seem calmly rational by comparison?)

 

UniteFightBack

(8,231 posts)
35. Why don't you have an option for trolling if you put that in your OP ...not the same as 'diabolical
Sat Aug 24, 2019, 09:28 AM
Aug 2019

manipulation'.

kentuck

(110,950 posts)
38. He's losing it but if called on it, he is trolling us, and it is just a joke...
Sat Aug 24, 2019, 09:56 AM
Aug 2019

Whatsa' matter? You can't take a joke?

myohmy2

(3,118 posts)
40. trolling us...
Sat Aug 24, 2019, 10:01 AM
Aug 2019

...we underestimate el trumpo if we write him off as mental...

...there's plenty of clear cut intent and strategy behind the off-hand things he says and does...

...I'm not saying he's a genius, just that he has excellent political instincts that's carried him this far...

...you don't make to the White House by being dumb and insane...

...but that's not to say he's not extremely dangerous...

...

Dagstead Bumwood

(3,528 posts)
41. Before and immediately after the election
Sat Aug 24, 2019, 10:01 AM
Aug 2019

There were some saying he was actually engaged in some Andy Kaufman-esque performance piece and was but moments away from yelling "Gotcha!" Ah, the good old days when one could dream.

lambchopp59

(2,809 posts)
44. Dimwit Trump has long utilized the notion of "No such thing as bad publicity".
Sun Aug 25, 2019, 09:54 PM
Aug 2019

He's used the trick for decades, but progressively all perspicaciousness of his screeds is unraveling.
Just be outrageous enough to keep your ugly orange mug in front of the microphones, the cameras, deflect any criticisms with "who? little old me?"'s and pick any culprit his adoring masses will turn their hate towards no matter how ludicrous.
Yet the creeping dementia is beyond denial. Neurofibrillary tangles are multiplying daily at this point, and any fool who believes he can sustain any grasp on reality for another 4 years is likely about halfway demented also, or just incredulously imperceptive.

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