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Yavin4

(35,421 posts)
Thu Aug 22, 2019, 11:37 AM Aug 2019

The WORST type of Trump supporter IS NOT the White Nationalist type.

They are mostly suffering from some sort of mental illness due to isolation and poor education.

No, the WORST type of Trump supporter is the one that goes along with Trump's bullshit because they're getting a break on taxes. They know that he's unfit to be a human being, let alone president, but they're saving a few pennies so who cares if migrant children are dying and in cages.

These are people so devoid of humanity and live only for money.

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The WORST type of Trump supporter IS NOT the White Nationalist type. (Original Post) Yavin4 Aug 2019 OP
They're ALL so bad BlueMTexpat Aug 2019 #1
You said it! MLAA Aug 2019 #19
Kick and recommend. bronxiteforever Aug 2019 #2
Agreed! bermudat Aug 2019 #3
Especially since their 401ks do better with Dem Presidents. Nt spooky3 Aug 2019 #10
Americans have always voted that way... lame54 Aug 2019 #4
Ditto! BigmanPigman Aug 2019 #39
Just as bad: the otherwise un-crazy people who wanted Trump to "shake things up". Aristus Aug 2019 #5
For the memes Calculating Aug 2019 #8
Yep. I'm still waiting for the MontanaMama Aug 2019 #23
When they say the voted for tRump* to "shake things up," what they really meant... Raster Aug 2019 #42
I know people just like that. Farmer-Rick Aug 2019 #48
Sadly it's understandable in a way Calculating Aug 2019 #6
Then STOP VOTING FOR REPUGS! SammyWinstonJack Aug 2019 #15
And they have money to buy their candidates dalton99a Aug 2019 #7
Single issue voters are a bane on our democracy. People who only vote for... EarnestPutz Aug 2019 #9
Republican Senators. the_sly_pig Aug 2019 #11
Bingo! You nailed it (them). TryLogic Aug 2019 #40
either way. barbtries Aug 2019 #12
I would wager that a majority of Germans didn't approve of the Nazis, but Yavin4 Aug 2019 #13
i don't doubt it. barbtries Aug 2019 #33
white nationalists are NOT mental stopdiggin Aug 2019 #18
right - you can't explain away ideology as pathology paulkienitz Aug 2019 #22
i didn't say that. barbtries Aug 2019 #34
His supporters are mostly made up of white losers who can't CaptYossarian Aug 2019 #38
This. mac56 Aug 2019 #14
It's appalling to see the depth that tRump and his offspring will go for an extra $. PaulRevere08 Aug 2019 #16
IMO you have to include the Evangelicals. Their collective NoMoreRepugs Aug 2019 #17
This. MontanaMama Aug 2019 #24
Huge K&R! zentrum Aug 2019 #20
Also, these ones are more likely to know he's lying, and back the lies consciously. paulkienitz Aug 2019 #21
Oh yes my neighborhood is full of these types. Initech Aug 2019 #25
Succinctly, they are rooting for The Bully. no_hypocrisy Aug 2019 #26
It's vicarious satisfaction they get lunatica Aug 2019 #29
+1 no_hypocrisy Aug 2019 #30
Recommended. guillaumeb Aug 2019 #27
Actually being self serving isn't the worst kind of Trump supporter lunatica Aug 2019 #28
There are always going to be these kind of racial extremists. It's the people that ally with them... Yavin4 Aug 2019 #35
at a certain point i don't think there is a difference JI7 Aug 2019 #31
You might want to call them jayschool2013 Aug 2019 #32
Amen so so true. They are mammon worshippers benfranklin1776 Aug 2019 #36
there is NO excuse for supporting that fascist piece of shit Skittles Aug 2019 #37
Agree Pepsidog Aug 2019 #41
That's correct Ahpook Aug 2019 #43
I agree. patphil Aug 2019 #44
My vote goes to....(the envelope, please)........ DFW Aug 2019 #45
I would counter with Ferrets are Cool Aug 2019 #46
Let's face it samplegirl Aug 2019 #47
You narrow the field too much RVN VET71 Aug 2019 #49
Couldn't agree more! FiveGoodMen Aug 2019 #52
I've always felt that way about "country club Republicans " Danmel Aug 2019 #50
Greed vs ideology, then. Ilsa Aug 2019 #51
Yes. And they are loved ones. Missn-Hitch Aug 2019 #53
Agree! Nitram Aug 2019 #54

lame54

(35,262 posts)
4. Americans have always voted that way...
Thu Aug 22, 2019, 11:54 AM
Aug 2019

I got mine should replace in god we trust on the dollar bill

Aristus

(66,282 posts)
5. Just as bad: the otherwise un-crazy people who wanted Trump to "shake things up".
Thu Aug 22, 2019, 11:55 AM
Aug 2019


WHAT THE F**K IS THAT SUPPOSED TO MEAN?!? "Shake things up."

The U.S. is not a soap opera that has run out of evil twin story ideas. It doesn't need to be shaken up. It needs to be handled delicately, with care and intelligence.

"Shake things up..."

Stupid assholes...

Calculating

(2,955 posts)
8. For the memes
Thu Aug 22, 2019, 11:59 AM
Aug 2019

I know some people like this. Basically they're sick and tired of it all and just want things to be 'entertaining' at least.

MontanaMama

(23,294 posts)
23. Yep. I'm still waiting for the
Thu Aug 22, 2019, 01:48 PM
Aug 2019

revolution that stupid old Susan Sarandon promised if the MF was elected because she deemed HRC "more dangerous".

Raster

(20,998 posts)
42. When they say the voted for tRump* to "shake things up," what they really meant...
Thu Aug 22, 2019, 07:15 PM
Aug 2019

...was that they were butthurt that a black man was lawfully and legally elected to the highest office in the land, and they could not allow a WOMAN to be elected just the same.

Farmer-Rick

(10,134 posts)
48. I know people just like that.
Fri Aug 23, 2019, 09:34 AM
Aug 2019

Waiting in the hospital for a loved one they had a news program on. I was too upset to know what was being said. This was a few months after Traitor Trump took over our country. A guy laughed in the corner of the waiting room, "He's giving them hell," he said. Like I was suppose to agree. I sneered at him. I didn't have the energy to do much more.

But I got to wondering, to whom was Traitor Trump giving hell? Did he think us liberals were getting hell? Did he think just Dems were going to suffer from an idiot in charge?

So, I came to the conclusion the people who voted for Traitor Trump were idiots like him. They have to be or they would realize an idiot would ruin everything for everyone not just ruin things for people he doesn't like. Idiots voting for idiots...Boy we have a lot of idiots in this country...I blame religion.

But then there were the nihilists and traitors who did want everything to come crashing down for everyone. Then add in the racist and Nazis. Now you have the core of Trump's support. Idiots leading the hateful.

Then you have the filthy rich American capitalist kings, the ones we allow to keep our national wealth, and that little man in Russia, Putin. And now you have someone funding and enabling the idiots leading the hateful so they could get more money.

Calculating

(2,955 posts)
6. Sadly it's understandable in a way
Thu Aug 22, 2019, 11:57 AM
Aug 2019

With all of our social safety nets failing, one needs to look out for their finances. How are people supposed to worry about issues like the migrant crisis or climate change while they're worried about how they're gonna retire, or how they'll pay for a car repair? Until income inequality is addressed we'll always have this 'economic anxiety' driving people to vote for whoever will help them financially.

EarnestPutz

(2,115 posts)
9. Single issue voters are a bane on our democracy. People who only vote for...
Thu Aug 22, 2019, 12:14 PM
Aug 2019

lower taxes, or gun "rights", or pro-fetus, or anti-immigration or a general hatred of government or whatever single issue upon which they place all their loyalty and Trump covers all those bases.

the_sly_pig

(740 posts)
11. Republican Senators.
Thu Aug 22, 2019, 12:26 PM
Aug 2019

Enablers, traitors. Knowingly sacrificing the country for personal gain. No morals, no compassion, no empathy. Pure greed. Is civil war out of the question? I think not.

barbtries

(28,765 posts)
12. either way.
Thu Aug 22, 2019, 12:26 PM
Aug 2019

white supremacy in this country is a very real problem and impediment to justice and peace.

Yavin4

(35,421 posts)
13. I would wager that a majority of Germans didn't approve of the Nazis, but
Thu Aug 22, 2019, 12:30 PM
Aug 2019

went along with their immorality and cruelty because their lives improved economically.

barbtries

(28,765 posts)
33. i don't doubt it.
Thu Aug 22, 2019, 04:49 PM
Aug 2019

as long as they weren't threatened. but a lot of germans also adored hitler and hated the other.

stopdiggin

(11,241 posts)
18. white nationalists are NOT mental
Thu Aug 22, 2019, 01:03 PM
Aug 2019
suffering from some sort of mental illness due to isolation and poor education.


that's a dangerous fallacy (and probably too forgiving to it's practitioners). Being a vicious, racist, xenophobic thug has little to do with mental illness. Did Germany suddenly develop a mental illness in the 1930s?

paulkienitz

(1,296 posts)
22. right - you can't explain away ideology as pathology
Thu Aug 22, 2019, 01:22 PM
Aug 2019

People commit atrocities because of dogma and propaganda much more often than they do so because of illness.

In the individual, trying to analyze the source of evil is confusing and tangled and baffling, but in groups it becomes clear: people turn vicious and evil because somebody persuaded them to.

barbtries

(28,765 posts)
34. i didn't say that.
Thu Aug 22, 2019, 04:53 PM
Aug 2019

i don't even believe it. if they're ignorant it's willful. but i think the country is sick, and it is mental. Germany was a sick country too.
it's not the same as saying we should have pity on white supremacists.

CaptYossarian

(6,448 posts)
38. His supporters are mostly made up of white losers who can't
Thu Aug 22, 2019, 05:38 PM
Aug 2019

face the reality of their loserdom. Their orange savior told them to blame non-whites for their failures. He also promised the religious bigots that he'd end abortions and told his 1% cronies he'd give them a YUGE tax cut. Then came Wikileaks and Putin casting just enough votes in three rust belt states to put Twitler over the top in the Electoral Pre-School.

PaulRevere08

(449 posts)
16. It's appalling to see the depth that tRump and his offspring will go for an extra $.
Thu Aug 22, 2019, 12:48 PM
Aug 2019

It's not like the good old days where you make a few bribes, win the oil contract and off you go. They are destroying the planet and hastening a global catastrophe that will kills millions all for a few extra bucks.

Initech

(100,033 posts)
25. Oh yes my neighborhood is full of these types.
Thu Aug 22, 2019, 01:51 PM
Aug 2019

They'll never elect liberals because, taxes. And Jesus. But mostly taxes. Trump Derangement Syndrome isn't a thing but Liberal Derangement Syndrome definitely is.

no_hypocrisy

(46,019 posts)
26. Succinctly, they are rooting for The Bully.
Thu Aug 22, 2019, 01:54 PM
Aug 2019

While they wouldn't want to get on the wrong side of The Bully, they also believe the kid getting the snot knocked out of him probably deserved it.

lunatica

(53,410 posts)
28. Actually being self serving isn't the worst kind of Trump supporter
Thu Aug 22, 2019, 02:15 PM
Aug 2019

because as much as we despise those kiss-up for profit people they don’t hold a candle to the ones who allow crimes against humanity singling out a group of people just to drum up political support.

Those are the worst kind of human beings. They prove Hanna Arendt right in her book, The Banality of Evil. At this point, after two years, the dregs that still support Trump would be like those Germans who did the dirty work in rounding up and murdering Jews for Hitler. Those are the people who still love Trump. It would be a mistake to pity them because they wouldn’t pity us.

Yavin4

(35,421 posts)
35. There are always going to be these kind of racial extremists. It's the people that ally with them...
Thu Aug 22, 2019, 05:01 PM
Aug 2019

politically for their own personal interests that the real problem. The extremists alone cannot get anyone elected to federal office. They need allies.

The folks that know better are willing to be those allies because doing so serves their narrow, personal interests.

Ahpook

(2,749 posts)
43. That's correct
Thu Aug 22, 2019, 10:43 PM
Aug 2019

I get stymied by it! Shocked..

Seemingly nice people that I have known for years get turned inside out and go on about how its ok that children are locked up away from their parents.

This is very upsetting!

patphil

(6,148 posts)
44. I agree.
Fri Aug 23, 2019, 01:20 AM
Aug 2019

Trump's base is a collection of mindless f**kers who will vote for him no matter what.
It's the ones in the middle who deliberately choose to vote for Trump, even though they know he's a terrible person, that are really at fault here.
I have relatives who willingly trade the future of the nation for a few dollars more in their pockets, even though they are already well off...better than most.
And yet, they think they're good people.

Patrick Phillips

DFW

(54,272 posts)
45. My vote goes to....(the envelope, please)........
Fri Aug 23, 2019, 01:55 AM
Aug 2019

Undocumented Trump-loving Hispanics who get deported, or Trump-loving family members of same who watch ICE tear their families apart, saying, "but, but, but, I never thought he meant ME/MY FAMILY!!"

Ferrets are Cool

(21,102 posts)
46. I would counter with
Fri Aug 23, 2019, 07:43 AM
Aug 2019

The worst type goes along with him because of the R behind his name. I want to puke on them and their fake fucking Patriotism.

samplegirl

(11,461 posts)
47. Let's face it
Fri Aug 23, 2019, 08:17 AM
Aug 2019

Most people knew Donald trumps bankruptcies, draft deferments, and the number of divorces he had and they still voted for the moron!

RVN VET71

(2,689 posts)
49. You narrow the field too much
Fri Aug 23, 2019, 09:37 AM
Aug 2019

I think the worst type of Trump supporter is anyone who intends to vote for him in 2020. These people are all in the same stew together, equally repulsive and distasteful.

Any supporter of Trump is a supporter of him as the chosen one, and of all that that means: the barbaric treatment of desperate people (including, and maybe especially, their children), the devastation of the planet -- it's ecological systems, its heretofore sacrosanct natural wonders, its air and water -- the subordination of national integrity and agency to a foreign power, the fraternizing and "love" relationship with dictators and tyrants, the destruction of a regulatory system intended to protect citizens from harm and exploitation by greed-hungry corporate entities, the signature divisiveness Trump and his party have fomented causing a fragmentation of national identity and aspirations ---- I could go on.

But that's just the point: if you vote for Hitler, everything Hitler does is on you. Same same Trump. Period.

Danmel

(4,907 posts)
50. I've always felt that way about "country club Republicans "
Fri Aug 23, 2019, 10:42 AM
Aug 2019

I can disagree vehemently with social issues voters, but at least they actually believe their positions, no matter how misguided they may be.
People willing to let the vulnerable suffer, to marginalize minorities and women, to target the immigrant, to destroy our environment for more money that they don't need are just despicable

Ilsa

(61,690 posts)
51. Greed vs ideology, then.
Fri Aug 23, 2019, 11:25 AM
Aug 2019

I know some that are not in either camp. They wanted someone to "shake up" Washington.

Missn-Hitch

(1,383 posts)
53. Yes. And they are loved ones.
Fri Aug 23, 2019, 03:15 PM
Aug 2019

They are your neighbors. When you are out in a public setting, look out and count 10 people. 4 of them support this idiot.

They stay quiet. They neither speak out against nor for.

They are ugly people whose insides are nothing but ashes.

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