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Yikes!
https://www.cnbc.com/2019/08/15/ge-shares-drop-after-madoff-whistleblower-harry-markopolos-raises-red-flags-on-its-accounting.html
General Electric shares fell after Madoff whistleblower Harry Markopolos targets the conglomerate in a new report, calling it "a bigger fraud than Enron."
The 175-page report claims GE was hiding the depths of its financial problems and would need to significantly raise its insurance reserves. It also points out alleged accounting issues with its oil and gas unit.
"My team has spent the past 7 months analyzing GE's accounting and we believe the $38 Billion in fraud we've come across is merely the tip of the iceberg," Markopolos says in the report.
Markopolos said he has given the report to securities regulators and that certain information he has uncovered was given to law enforcement only, and is not in the public report.
ck4829
(35,045 posts)waddirum
(979 posts)superpatriotman
(6,247 posts)The last recession was tied to many problems, but large companies (Shearson, Bear) going belly up mired in impropriety accelerated the decline.
Hortensis
(58,785 posts)Pentagon white paper: Russia's Strategic Intentions: "divide their populace, apply economic coercion..."
mahatmakanejeeves
(57,393 posts)Full disclosure: I own shares of GE. My last purchase was in December. The price today is above what I paid for the stock then. I do not have any orders in place to buy or sell shares of GE. I might place an order in the future, but there's not one yet. I don't have so many shares that I'm ruined if the price goes to $0.
Ethan Wolff-Mann | Senior Writer, Yahoo Finance August 15, 2019
The accountant who blew the whistle on Bernie Madoffs scheme is blowing the whistle again with a new report attacking GEs (GE) accounting practices. ... In a 175-page report posted online, forensic accountant Harry Markopolos and his fraud team allege that GE is committing $38 billion in accounting fraud.
{I}ts the biggest, bigger than Enron and WorldCom combined, he wrote. In fact, GEs $38 Billion in accounting fraud amounts to over 40% of GEs market capitalization, making it far more serious than either the Enron or WorldCom accounting frauds. ... Markopolos is calling GE GEnron, because the company appears to be using many of the same accounting tricks that Enron did.
At the center of his investigation are eight long-term care insurance deals that GE executed. The report alleges that the GE has been hiding massive loss ratios and exponentially increasing dollar losses.
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Markopolos warns that GE losses are about to spike. The report says that GE needs $18.5 billion in cash immediately to deal with a wave of impending claims in the insurance unit. Further, it will need another $10.5 billion to address a non-cash charge that will come due by 2021.
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All of this, the report says, makes it very unlikely that GE can become cash-flow positive by 2021. Markopolos told the WSJ that he is working with an undisclosed hedge fund, which has a short position, betting the stock will fall.
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Ethan Wolff-Mann is a writer at Yahoo Finance focusing on consumer issues, personal finance, retail, airlines, and more. Follow him on Twitter @ewolffmann.
The news two days ago was that the CEO had bought a whole bunch of shares:
Greg Ryan -- Law and Mondy Reporter, American City Business Journals August 13, 2019
General Electric Co. CEO Larry Culp bought $3 million worth of the companys stock on Monday the same day that GEs most notorious skeptic expressed pessimism about its performance going forward.
Culp acquired more than 330,000 GE (NYSE: GE) shares for an average of $9.04 per share, according to a securities filing published early Tuesday morning. The purchase increased Culps GE holdings by more than 50 percent.
The filing came after JPMorgan Chase & Co. analyst Stephen Tusa, a well-known GE pessimist, published a research note maintaining his target price for GE stock at $5 per share well below where shares are now trading. Even though GE reported better-than-expected second-quarter earnings last month, Tusa said the companys fundamentals continue to look negative from his perspective, according to media reports.
After ending Friday at $9.15 per share, GEs stock fell as low as $8.95 on Monday before ending the day at $9.05 per share.
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democratisphere
(17,235 posts)a great company solely for their own extreme greed. Another great example of the failure of free market capitalism with all of its corruption.
Mike 03
(16,616 posts)When my father was alive (he was a bank analyst who late became an investment advisor) he used to study GE's financials and he was always fascinated and concerned by them. He considered investing in GE but never did because something about their reports looked screwy to him. He referred to it as a "black box."
brush
(53,764 posts)when he retired. That stuff had to be going on when that repug fucker, who, btw, used to regularly bash Obama, was in charge.
genxlib
(5,524 posts)This screamed at me...
"Markopolos told the WSJ that he is working with an undisclosed hedge fund, which has a short position, betting the stock will fall. "
That seems really unethical and on the borderline of stock manipulation for profit.
VMA131Marine
(4,138 posts)But he did.
This is the guy who figured out Madoff was a fraud before anyone else. It doesn't mean he's right in this case, but his claims deserve further scrutiny.
Mike 03
(16,616 posts)He felt he'd proved it was a ponzi scheme and went public with his data after taking a very large short position on it. He did disclose it at the time.
Brother Buzz
(36,416 posts)Interesting enough, he shorted the market after his warnings were ignored.
DeminPennswoods
(15,278 posts)Markopolos told the WSJ that he is working with an undisclosed hedge fund, which has a short position, betting the stock will fall.
The hedge fund has a short position where it makes money if GE's stock falls, and, amazingly, an accountant it hires comes up with a report that causes GE's stock to fall. Wow! What a happy coincidence!
Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin
(107,922 posts)mahatmakanejeeves
(57,393 posts)Almost eight times normal volume:
Volume: 392,256,094
Avg. Volume: 52,171,384
Other than that, it looks like rain. I might try to get in some shopping, or I might not. Either way, I'll go home eventually, have something to eat, and watch some TV. Just another day.
Remember the "d's": dollar-cost averaging and diversification.
Stocks will fluctuate.
Trenzalore
(2,331 posts)That was 20 years ago and I understand that is no longer the case. After what happened to my father at Lucent in the late 1990s nothing would surprise me.
mahatmakanejeeves
(57,393 posts)This is not an endorsement; just a data point.
General Electric CEO buys $2 million in stock after fraud allegations from Madoff whistleblower
Lawrence Culps purchase was meant to send a message to investors: Do not panic
By Jonnelle Marte
August 16 at 10:00 AM
General Electrics chief executive snapped up $2 million in company stock after a highly critical report of the companys financial health caused the share prices most dramatic drop in 11 years.
Lawrence Culp, who took the helm at GE last fall, bought 252,000 shares at $7.93 each, according to a U.S. Securities and Exchange Commission filing. Shares had plunged more than 11 percent Thursday after Harry Markopolos, the whistleblower who sounded the alarm on Bernie Madoff, released a report alleging that GE was using accounting tricks to mask its financial problems.
The 175-page document outlined what Markopolos claims are accounting irregularities that add up to $38 billion. After reviewing more than a decade of financial statements, researchers concluded that the company is understating its insurance liabilities and that it does not have enough cash.
Markopolos said on CNBC that he looked into GE at the request of a mid-sized U.S.-based hedge fund, but did not identify the firm. He said he will receive a decent percentage of any proceeds the hedge fund earns from shorting GE stock.
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Jonnelle Marte is a reporter covering personal finance. She was previously a writer for MarketWatch and the Wall Street Journal. Follow https://twitter.com/jonnelle