I'll Ask This Again - Have Epstein's Lawyers Made Any Statements Yet?.....

[global1]

They were the ones closest to him since he's been jailed. They should have heard directly from Epstein - what happened in his cell 3 weeks ago when we heard that he might have attempted suicide.

His lawyers should have had a good sense of what his current 'state of mind' was after that incident.

Was Epstein depressed. despondent and hopeless? Did he try to off himself ? Was he prone to suicide?

OR

Was Epstein afraid of being in jail? Was he attacked in his cell then? Did he express to his lawyers that his life was in danger?

It would seem to me that if anyone knew Epstein's current 'state of mind' - it would be his lawyers.

Have they made a statement yet? One would think that they would be the first to comment on his death and either confirm that he was suicide prone or deathly afraid of being killed.

The lack of any news coming out of this jail regarding this death is very suspicious to me. Why aren't we getting any details surrounding his death?

[jberryhill]

1. Why would they make a statement of any kind?

Explain to me why they should make a statement and who is going to paying for their time for doing something that has nothing to do with any professional responsibility owed to any client?

If I was the estate administrator, I certainly wouldn’t be paying an invoice for their time in gallivanting around the press.

Asshats like Avenatti have given people the impression that “good lawyering” has something to do with going on TV and running your mouth. It doesn’t.

So, why in blazes should they be saying anything to anyone about anything? Are you planning on paying for their time?

“One would think that they would be the first to comment”

WTF for? What would any statement of any kind from them do for anyone, in any tangible and billable way?

Who is the client? You?

Real lawyers don’t do the Allred/Bloom/Avenatti nonsense.

[marble falls]

5. Its just a question JBerry. Jebus.

[jberryhill]

7. I get that

Other than seeking to go after the feds on behalf of the estate of their client, in the event the estate engages them to do so, there’s no reason for them to go off on some extended discussion in the press.

They do not seem to believe their client was murdered, so what do we take away from that? Are Epstein’s lawyers in on the plot for not sharing that widely-held belief? Are they part of the cover up?

[marble falls]

10. Well they have responded. Pro Bono? ...

I've been staying away from these discussions because sometimes a cigar is just a cigar. I get tired of overblown speculation and then the overblown speculation of the last overblown speculation.

There's no way to hide whatever it was that happened. The truth will out.

[jberryhill]

18. If there is any unspent retainer, they will try to burn it down

But other than that, the question misperceives some very basic facts about to whom a lawyer owes any duty.

If anything, a lawyer might be auditioning for the role of plaintiff’s counsel in a wrongful death action against the feds (good luck with that) if the estate administrator decides to pursue one.

[lostnfound]

12. Haha. I am amused.

I think your reply could be worthy of its own macro. “It’s just a question JBerry. Jebus.”

It was a good question, in my opinion. Any lawyer who gave a damn about their client WOULD be interested in answering a few questions from the media. The silence is eerie.

This whole thing smells like a coverup. But we will probably never be allowed to know. He was allowed to continue being a bad guy for decades, for a reason.

[jberryhill]

19. In my opinion it is a silly question

There is no connection between serving a now-dead client, and grandstanding for the press. I realize that people (mostly nonlawyers) have been conditioned by shitty lawyers to believe that grandstanding for the press has something to do with doing the job of a lawyer, but it simply doesn’t.

[lostnfound]

23. Was thinking more about the job of being human. Or a citizen of this once great country. Haha. Nt

[global1]

6. So Their Client Dies And They Just Go Away?.....

I just think that they have a responsibility to clear up any of the confusion, misinformation and theories that are surrounding Epstein's death.

If Epstein was really suicide prone and they knew it - and they pass that info on to the press - maybe it would quell some of the conspiracy theories that are now being touted.

If Epstein feared for his life and they knew it - and they pass that info on to the press - maybe it would be the catalyst to find out what really happened in his cell and bring those people that were involved to justice.

[jberryhill]

8. They don't have a responsibility to do jack shit

To whom do they owe this responsibility, and who is paying for it?

[global1]

13. They Are Lawyers And Epstein Is Said To Have Had A Very Sizable Estate.....

Being that lawyers have a reputation of be ambulance chasers - I think they can figure out a way - seeing that they were representing him - of getting paid for their services - both past and present. Too much money is at stake.

As far as whom do they owe this responsibility too? I think they owe it to their client - Epstein - no matter how despicable of a person he was. I also think they owe it to the victims that now might never get closure to the acts he put them through.

[jberryhill]

20. They owe no duty to Epstein

Epstein is dead (if you believe the “official story”, and his lawyers probably do).

I’m sorry, but if you die, does your doctor, plumber or dentist owe you something?

Aside from which, your assumption draws no connection between any legal interest of the now-dead Epstein and “making a public statement” of some kind.

But I love how you manage to throw in “ambulance chasers”. So your position is “those greedy uncaring fucks owe me a free explanation of, something”.

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

15. Pretty much. If your client dies you do just go away.

The attorney-client privilege survives the death of the client except to the extent necessary for the administration of his estate. That means that Epstein's lawyers can't reveal privileged communications between him and them.

[secondwind]

14. It's a legitimate question. sheesh!

[PSPS]

2. "Why aren't we getting any details surrounding his death?"

Um, the news has been full of details. He hanged himself. What more detail is required? The color of his shoes?

As for his lawyers, I'm quite sure they're delighted not to have to devise a defense. Everyone deserves a defense, of course, but cases like this aren't exactly coveted.

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

17. The attorney-client privilege survives the death of the client.

So the lawyers can't tell the press what Epstein might have told them.

[GemDigger]

3. Ya they have. nt

[Princess Turandot]

4. One of them has. Sort of. He's mostly saying that everyone has Epstein's 'blood on their hands'..

Not because of any conspiracy. Because they revived the old case, because the mean judge made him stay in jail etc

It's on FoxNew's web site, such as it is: https://www.foxnews.com/us/jeffrey-epstein-attorney-blood-on-their-hands-suicide

Jeffrey Epstein’s attorney blamed the media, the government and the courts for his client’s apparent suicide inside his Manhattan prison cell Saturday.

Marc Fernich, one of the multimillionaire’s attorneys, said in a personal statement to Fox News that he is “outraged” at Epstein’s death and that there is “plenty of blame to go around for this unthinkable tragedy.”

Fernich said that “overzealous prosecutors,” “pandering politicians,” “compliant judges” and a “hysterical press corps” were all to blame for Epstein’s death while he awaited trial for sex trafficking charges.

“Breathless reporters excavating every corner of Mr. Epstein’s life to pile on, tear him down and kick him at his lowest — while still presumed innocent, before he’d had his day in court,” he said. “All these actors appear to bear some responsibility for this calamity. All seem to have a share of Mr. Epstein’s blood on their hands. All should be ashamed of their behavior.”

Mr Epstein, of course, didn't seem ashamed by his behavior. At one point, he compared his crimes to 'stealing a bagel', IIRC

[global1]

9. So From This Lawyer's Statement Do You Think He Confirms That Epstein In Fact.....

did commit suicide? Or are the circumstances surrounding Epstein's death still left to speculation?


Note your post of this lawyer's statement was the first I've seen of it.

[FM123]

11. Perhaps they will and are just waiting until after the FOIA request to do so.

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

21. They can't. As noted above, the attorney-client privilege survives the client's death.

[Claritie Pixie]

16. Because Barr has fixed the liability.

Look - we've seen what these people are capable of - they are proven liars who rip children from the arms of their mothers, approve of violence by their followers, need I go on?

It's not a stretch to think that a coverup is underway to protect the depraved who prey on children for their own sexual gratification.

A coverup that conceals the truth and fabricates evidence pinning the crime on a political opponent.

A coverup that requires silence from Epstein's attorneys, probably for a nice chunk of dough.

They are capable of anything. There is no bottom.

[zackymilly]

22. Epstein is dead. The only thing his lawyers want now is to be paid & move on to the next client. nt