Breaking: Jeffrey Epstein commits suicide

[Trumpocalypse]

Just saw on ABC.

[zaj]

1. Man, that's the surest way to end this investigation.

[mainstreetonce]

2. Damn!!!

Damn!!

[zaj]

6. How does someone in prison on suicide watch commit suicide?

Without "help" of some kind

[Mike 03]

12. Good question

The autopsy might reveal something. We need to know the method he used, and if it was as a result of something possibly smuggled into him by a visitor.

[samplegirl]

3. Where were the guards???

[Oneironaut]

10. Killing him and staging a suicide.

[Mike 03]

13. I didn't want to speculate...

But since we're speculating, I'm wondering about cyanide smuggled in by "one of his visitors" (in quotes, because I mean one of his lawyers). Maybe this was a Godfather II situation where he simply had to go, and knew it.

[Autumn]

4. While under suicide watch.

How very interesting.

[get the red out]

21. Exactly!

Incredible negligence at best! One would think having a prisoner on suicide watch would be a common procedure that wouldn’t just get fucked up on Epstein?

[Demovictory9]

24. yeah

[tinrobot]

37. More like "Suicide? Watch!"

[Autumn]

46. How does one hang themselves under suicide watch?

[lark]

5. If true, I hope this is investigated very thoroughly, but bet Barr would suppress it.

Sure seems like drumpf had the most to lose, so convenient for him that his good buddy Epstein is no longer around to spill the beans and the case will be closed without his involvement in the rapes being made public.

[panader0]

7. I thought he was on suicide watch.

[bearsfootball516]

9. He was, makes me wonder if it was a hit and the guards were paid off to look the other way

[Autumn]

35. I read he hanged himself, in a cell under suicide watch.

[ProudLib72]

8. They need to put "suicide" in quotes

[randr]

11. A lot of very powerful people are breathing again

I hope they found enough evidence left behind to gather all the slime up.

[StarfishSaver]

22. They shouldn't be

The evidence is still there. Other people are involved and can be charged and his estate can be sued.

His death won't necessarily make this go away.

[LisaL]

27. Without Epstein there to testify it won't be so easy.

[StarfishSaver]

30. There's no guarantee Epstein would have testified

And his testimony wouldn't necessarily have been all that reliable anyway.

There's so much evidence already in the record and now one of the reasons for keeping the record sealed is gone since there's no longer an issue about not prejudicing a jury in his criminal case.

[polichick]

14. On to disappearing all those documents...

Barr and DeSantis probably have that covered.

[Mike 03]

15. The reason I do accept it might be suicide

Studying Jeffrey Epstein, this is a guy accustomed to a luxurious life who barely worked and only thought about one thing 24 hours a day and designed his entire life around it. And faced with an insurmountable case against him, and unable to get bond, why would he want to live?

[zaj]

17. I believe he wanted to die, but someone in power wanted him to succeed

Either a guard, warden or someone else with even more power.

[Mike 03]

36. THIS. Totally. n/t

[Major Nikon]

19. Let the memes begin

[StarfishSaver]

23. Because Epstein committing suicide is so far outside the realm of possibility

it must be some kind of a conspiracy...

[LisaL]

25. I guess the idea that there were some powerful men that didn't want him to talk

is very far outside of realm of possibility.

[StarfishSaver]

28. Surely there were people who didn't want him to talk

That doesn't mean that Epstein wasn't suicidal, hadn't tried before and wasn't likely to try it again.

[LisaL]

31. The jail was supposed to watch out for that.

I guess they looked the other way?

[StarfishSaver]

32. Possibly

Depends on whether he was still on suicide watch. It's not clear right now whether he was still on suicide watch.

Whatever, it's a mess and is gonna be a mess for some time to come.

[LisaL]

33. He was just recently in a hospital for supposed attempted suicide.

How would he not be on suicide watch?

[StarfishSaver]

42. I've seen reports he may have been taken off suicide watch after an evaluation

[Mike 03]

39. To me this is the best explanation.

He was suicidal and that was very convenient for a whole lot of people, one of whom may have helped him.

[tinrobot]

41. The guards were supposed to prevent him from killing himself.

I guess they must have been looking the other way.

Not a conspiracy at all. Happens all the time.

[elevator48]

45. LOL. It is well within the realm of probability

that he was terminated. The people he could bring down had the power to do it. Why was he taken off suicide watch?

[Major Nikon]

16. Bless his piece of shit heart

[Mc Mike]

18. The Lee Atwater andy breitbart retirement plan.

[Leghorn21]

20. Hey Ghislaine Maxwell - step to the front, motherfucker

this thing’s just gettin started

hang tough, my friends

[superpatriotman]

26. She will never see a day in court

IMO

[Leghorn21]

38. I'm eerily calm, s - Maxwell or some other witness will lay this thing wide open......dammit

(fingers crossed painfully tight)

[Fla Dem]

29. Just like in Putin's Russia. Mysterious death of anyone who might compromise the Leader.

The guy was under suicide watch for god's sake. I really would hate to think Trump or his minions had anything to do with this. Steven Miller maybe.

Update 9:45am: Just heard he was taken off suicide watch. WHO ordered that????

[Buckeyeblue]

34. You would think the state would have been compelled to keep him alive

Given the high profile of this case. I get that if someone was determined to commit suicide it is tough to combat. But I thought when you were on suicide watch you were given minimal clothing and flimsy blankets.

It seemed like he was reckless and left damning evidence all around. If I was one of his victims I would be pissed. They were finally going to get their day in court.

[Hortensis]

40. The farthest I'll speculate is that he was allowed to kill himself

by not removing the means after his supposed first attempt, including privacy.

As for those who're already deep in murder conspiracies, please stop short of black plastic bags and a substitute body. No, I don't know why minds would go that way, but that's the way conspiracies work -- hit a little rock that shouldn't be there, and new beliefs are manufactured to explain it. Likely some are already speculating about Clintons involvement, maybe providing the body while their partner in sex trafficking was spirited out, but that's for other forums.

[StarfishSaver]

43. The problem with conspiracies is that they need no proof but can never be disproven

Any evidence of a lack of conspiracy is simply treated as proof of the existence of the conspiracy ("that's what they WANT you to think" ... "That was planted to make it look like there was no conspiracy," etc.)

[Hortensis]

44. Yes. The other problem is that they're implanted as memories.

Even in honest, sensible people, awareness that insidious, unsubstantiated rumors and speculations are only that is often scrubbed while storing.

And distrust and suspicion by distrust and suspicion, already vulnerable minds get spun and rabbit-holed.

[SweetieD]

47. Come on.