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BeyondGeography

(39,283 posts)
Thu Jul 25, 2019, 03:26 PM Jul 2019

Warren: I would've accepted a VP offer from Clinton

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Elizabeth Warren would have accepted an offer from Hillary Clinton to become her running mate in 2016, the Massachusetts senator and 2020 White House hopeful said in a report published Thursday.

Warren — who declined to launch her own presidential bid 2½ years ago despite intense efforts by progressives to draft her — even received a “full vetting” for the vice presidential slot by Clinton’s team and was interviewed in August 2015 at the candidate’s Whitehaven mansion in Washington, according to Bloomberg Businessweek.

Clinton “seriously weighed” Warren as a potential running mate, the report states, and top aide Philippe Reines wrote in a memo to his boss after their meeting: “If a crystal ball said she wouldn’t antagonize you for four years, it’s hard to argue she isn’t the most helpful for the next four months to get you elected.”

Asked whether she would have agreed to become Clinton’s No. 2 on the ticket, Warren responded: “Yes.”

More at https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.politico.com/amp/story/2019/07/25/warren-hillary-clinton-vice-president-1435422


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Warren: I would've accepted a VP offer from Clinton (Original Post) BeyondGeography Jul 2019 OP
Too bad she didn't pick Liz. That would have made a great and exciting ticket. nt Autumn Jul 2019 #1
I agree JonLP24 Jul 2019 #4
That would have been one fantastic team.... BigmanPigman Jul 2019 #11
Big mistake on Clinton's part. roody Jul 2019 #2
The big mistake was those self-identified progressives who refused to vote for the Democratic nomine still_one Jul 2019 #3
Damn straight Hekate Jul 2019 #6
It wasn't just progressives (most voted for Hillary Clinton including myself) JonLP24 Jul 2019 #8
Comey's actions were more significant than anything else. (eom) StevieM Jul 2019 #14
Well let me put it this way....... still_one Jul 2019 #15
There was also vote trading JonLP24 Jul 2019 #16
The thought is nice Doreen Jul 2019 #5
I think a powerful Harris/Warren or Warren/Harris is attainable in 2020. silentEcho Jul 2019 #9
Interesting. And yes, I can see that would be the concern. Too bad Warren didn't get that across. silentEcho Jul 2019 #7
A Clinton / Warren ticket would have generated some excitement Merlot Jul 2019 #12
Lots of suppositions and true on the latter part of the post. silentEcho Jul 2019 #13
It wasn't anything against Kaine Merlot Jul 2019 #17
Yes. I hear you. I agree. silentEcho Jul 2019 #19
I think she would have helped pick up some of the Bernie votes NewJeffCT Jul 2019 #10
There were perfectly legitimate reasons not to pick her. BlueStater Jul 2019 #18
Also, we were working for a first woman President. Two woman ticket would have been challenging. silentEcho Jul 2019 #20
Locking ... Yonnie3 Jul 2019 #21

Autumn

(44,755 posts)
1. Too bad she didn't pick Liz. That would have made a great and exciting ticket. nt
Thu Jul 25, 2019, 03:32 PM
Jul 2019

JonLP24

(29,322 posts)
4. I agree
Thu Jul 25, 2019, 03:38 PM
Jul 2019

BigmanPigman

(51,430 posts)
11. That would have been one fantastic team....
Thu Jul 25, 2019, 03:53 PM
Jul 2019

Now I am more depressed than 5 min ago.

roody

(10,849 posts)
2. Big mistake on Clinton's part.
Thu Jul 25, 2019, 03:32 PM
Jul 2019

still_one

(91,951 posts)
3. The big mistake was those self-identified progressives who refused to vote for the Democratic nomine
Thu Jul 25, 2019, 03:37 PM
Jul 2019

Hekate

(90,189 posts)
6. Damn straight
Thu Jul 25, 2019, 03:39 PM
Jul 2019

JonLP24

(29,322 posts)
8. It wasn't just progressives (most voted for Hillary Clinton including myself)
Thu Jul 25, 2019, 03:43 PM
Jul 2019

Flint, Michigan had huge turnout gaps and I'm reading The Forgotten by Ben Bradlee Jr which is about an Obama-Trump county in Pennsylvania and it seemed like culture wars like Kaepernick influenced their vote more than anything else.

Also checkout The Hack on Netflix or even the film Brexit on HBO because they both detail Cambridge Analytica which specifically targeted "persuadables" through Facebook mostly in swing states such as Michigan and they would bombard them with anti Hillary Clinton ads.

Also Russia.

StevieM

(10,499 posts)
14. Comey's actions were more significant than anything else. (eom)
Thu Jul 25, 2019, 04:02 PM
Jul 2019

still_one

(91,951 posts)
15. Well let me put it this way.......
Thu Jul 25, 2019, 04:02 PM
Jul 2019

In everyone of those critical swing states, the Democratic nominee lost by less than 1%

Jill Stein received 1% of the vote in those states

JonLP24

(29,322 posts)
16. There was also vote trading
Thu Jul 25, 2019, 04:10 PM
Jul 2019

Clinton people would trade their votes with Stein or Johnson voters that didn't want to see Trump as President.

https://www.denverpost.com/2018/02/27/colorado-vote-trading/

Also some Green voters you can't expect to vote for a mainstream Democratic candidate as they have different platforms. One major difference is Israel policy.

Doreen

(11,686 posts)
5. The thought is nice
Thu Jul 25, 2019, 03:38 PM
Jul 2019

but our country is not ready for two females. I know this sucks but when we are having to battle as hard as we have for one female two would be an overload. Maybe in 2024 more people in our country could handle that. I do absolutely think we need a male and female pair as president and vice president.

 

silentEcho

(424 posts)
9. I think a powerful Harris/Warren or Warren/Harris is attainable in 2020.
Thu Jul 25, 2019, 03:45 PM
Jul 2019

Now, starting out I figured we could not even handle a woman front runner. Watching both Harris and especially Warren, I think we can deal with first woman President. Further, I think the strong duo with the individual strength is a wonderful combination. Harris and Law, Warren and Corporation/Wall Street.

 

silentEcho

(424 posts)
7. Interesting. And yes, I can see that would be the concern. Too bad Warren didn't get that across.
Thu Jul 25, 2019, 03:43 PM
Jul 2019

What is done, is done. I liked Kaine. A good man and that matters. But, how awesome fun would Warren had been. That is why I like a Warren/Harris ticket, or vice versa. I am glad to hear Warrren would have been comfortable in that position. I know the two women respect each other. I saw that in 2016.

Merlot

(9,696 posts)
12. A Clinton / Warren ticket would have generated some excitement
Thu Jul 25, 2019, 03:56 PM
Jul 2019

and enthusiasm. For me Kaine did nothing for the ticket, the choice was a huge dissapointment. Reminded me of when Gore chose Liberman, I got that same sinking feeling.

I'm glad Warren didn't accept because if Clinton had lost with Warren on the ticket, doubtfull Warren would be doing as well as she is now.

 

silentEcho

(424 posts)
13. Lots of suppositions and true on the latter part of the post.
Thu Jul 25, 2019, 03:59 PM
Jul 2019

Kaine I think was solid in middle age white man, to appease that and also honest. That could not be questioned. I was not bummed with Kaine, but more wanting to enhance and use his strengths.

Merlot

(9,696 posts)
17. It wasn't anything against Kaine
Thu Jul 25, 2019, 04:18 PM
Jul 2019

I was hoping for someone who could generate enthusiasm among younger and more divers voters.

 

silentEcho

(424 posts)
19. Yes. I hear you. I agree.
Thu Jul 25, 2019, 04:23 PM
Jul 2019

NewJeffCT

(56,827 posts)
10. I think she would have helped pick up some of the Bernie votes
Thu Jul 25, 2019, 03:50 PM
Jul 2019

that either stayed home or went Green. Some of them.

Warren and Xavier Becerra were maybe my two favorites for VP.

But, without Kaine, do the Democrats take Virginia?

Hindsight is 20/20, though, and Kaine seems like an all around good guy

BlueStater

(7,596 posts)
18. There were perfectly legitimate reasons not to pick her.
Thu Jul 25, 2019, 04:20 PM
Jul 2019

First off, what states would she have helped pick up? They didn't need to worry about winning Massachusetts and, outside of our liberal bubble, I don't think she has much appeal on a nationwide level.

Secondly, she's almost as polarizing a figure as Clinton herself is. Kaine might not have helped the ticket much, but he didn't hurt it either.

 

silentEcho

(424 posts)
20. Also, we were working for a first woman President. Two woman ticket would have been challenging.
Thu Jul 25, 2019, 04:24 PM
Jul 2019

Yonnie3

(17,376 posts)
21. Locking ...
Thu Jul 25, 2019, 05:49 PM
Jul 2019

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