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(25,111 posts)fake news . . . .
underpants
(182,590 posts)ooky
(8,905 posts)Right on time.
FredSanderson
(27 posts)focus is on appearance, people! Ignore the crimes of Trump! Please?
Anon-C
(3,430 posts)jalan48
(13,840 posts)The Velveteen Ocelot
(115,578 posts)Mueller declares his Russia report did not exonerate Trump https://www.apnews.com/94323cfc164c4759ba6bf84ad2a46203
Mueller testifies report did not exonerate Trump; president could be charged with obstruction once he leaves office https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/special-counsel-robert-mueller-testify-capitol-hill/story?id=64508660
These headlines seem to be dominating the news.
onetexan
(13,019 posts)spanone
(135,781 posts)Kingofalldems
(38,420 posts)Tech
(1,769 posts)WTF is wrong with the M$M? I watched the hearing and thought it was damning to Trump. Mueller did exactly what he said he would do. He re-enforced the report. But he also did say 1.The reason he did not indict was the DOJ opinion that no president can be indicted. And 2.Once a President is out of office they can be indicted, charged, and convicted of obstruction. Thats good enough for me.
mcar
(42,278 posts)jayfish
(10,037 posts)This was a fucking debacle. If I was a conspiratorial type I'd say Mueller was chosen for this very day. His best days are well past him.
StarfishSaver
(18,486 posts)Seriously?
I don't know what you were expecting, but it sounds like you were expecting something that was never going to happen.
The Velveteen Ocelot
(115,578 posts)I didn't get that impression at all. I saw what I was expecting to see - Mueller stuck to his original promise that he wouldn't deviate from the text of the report. He didn't get all Incredible Hulk, which seems to have disappointed a lot of people, but it shouldn't because he did exactly what he said he was going to do.
jayfish
(10,037 posts)stuttered and stammered for four hours, refused to even read his own words and let Republican talking points lie.
SCantiGOP
(13,862 posts)Want all media to be like FOX, except slanted to the left. To listen to many frequent posters here, you would think that all of the media is pro-Trump, even when they are merely giving both sides of the story.
USALiberal
(10,877 posts)StarfishSaver
(18,486 posts)NYC Liberal
(20,135 posts)he was not essentially a liberal version of Trump.
StarfishSaver
(18,486 posts)Instead of catering only to the MAGA crowd, doing only what the far left wing of the party wanted - and trashed him whenever he behaved like he thought he represented the entire country, not just them.
Now, whenever they complain about Trump, I remind them.
Joe941
(2,848 posts)Blaukraut
(5,693 posts)I'm getting whiplash.
Sounds like two followed one.
Blaukraut
(5,693 posts)And as the hearing pretty much unfolded as we were told - Mueller sticking to his report; not going beyond anything that was within the 400 odd pages; evading and declining to answer otherwise; - that same group of pundits are declaring the event a disaster and disappointment.
jayfish
(10,037 posts)And they were right. Some might say, myself included, it was a disaster. Two followed one.
Vinca
(50,236 posts)No one expected Mueller to say, "Yes, you're right, if I had been able to I would have indicted Trump." I thought Mueller was calm and dignified and the Democrats asked meaningful questions and cited the his report. Republicans, on the other, engaged in character assassination, hyperbole and falsehoods. They didn't shake the bottom line verdict of the report at all.
jayfish
(10,037 posts)And Mueller let it all stand with "I'm not going to answer that". Hooray, what a treat.
LanternWaste
(37,748 posts)Merely process.
live love laugh
(13,074 posts)spanone
(135,781 posts)PA Democrat
(13,225 posts)is more important than the facts.
Even MSNBC is is spouting the same theme.
DeminPennswoods
(15,265 posts)moment. That was never going to happen because the PURPOSE of the Judiciary hearing was to educate Americans on what was in the Mueller Report. I think it accomplished that purpose.
My only surprise was that Mueller was as much as a hands-off supervisor as he apparently was, but it makes me understand why he asked to bring his deputy, who actually handled the day-to-day operations, along.
I expect lots more Dems to now come out for an impeachment inquiry.
The Velveteen Ocelot
(115,578 posts)Too many people expect everything to be like TV.
PA Democrat
(13,225 posts)The disaster is the media's abject failure to pursue educating the public about the facts. Flashy trumps honesty.
jayfish
(10,037 posts)CNN and MSNBC have been "educating the public about the facts" on this for two+ years. It was a televised disaster.
DeminPennswoods
(15,265 posts)CNN or MSNBC or even Fox News.
PA Democrat
(13,225 posts)failure for the Democrats. I don't argue that SOME of the MSNBC hosts, SOME people on CNN have attempted to educate the public, but if the American people had been watching and listening all along, we would not be where we are today. But personally even MSNBC needs to stop their extensive coverage of the outrageous tweet of the day.
So for people who have not been tuning in or God forbid have not actually READ the Mueller report, THOSE people most likely won't watch the hearings today and will rely on the one-liners offered by the likes of Brian Williams and Chuck Todd. "A televised disaster"- that was their summary. Nothing about the FACTS that were presented to the American people because the last time I checked THAT was stated intention of the hearings.
As someone who has read the entire report, I thought that the Democrats did as best as they possibly could to bring forward the FACTS of the investigation given the challenges they faced. The Republicans used their entire allotted time in an attempt to SMEAR Mueller. THAT should have been the takeaway, not the lack of fireworks.
calguy
(5,290 posts)so I'm not inspired or disappointed