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ScratchCat

(1,990 posts)
1. Maybe this is why
Tue Jul 9, 2019, 11:46 AM
Jul 2019

Barr was called up to begin with.

I've mentioned many times, "figure out why Barr is involved in the Trump Presidency, and it will answer so many other questions."

Maybe Barr is compromised. I've never fully bought the idea that The Heritage Foundation simply picked him to "save" the GOP and he was willing to throw away any remaining reputation he had to do that.

Sanity Claws

(21,848 posts)
2. No doubt Barr is compromised
Tue Jul 9, 2019, 11:49 AM
Jul 2019

But we still don't know why. He could be comprised regarding gambling debts, his kids' debts, and that would be enough to get him to do whatever Trump wants, including unrecusing himself from the Epstein case.

Another thought comes to my mind: Trump couldn't get Sessions to unrecuse himself. Does that mean Trump had no Kompromat on him?

ScratchCat

(1,990 posts)
4. Probably not
Tue Jul 9, 2019, 12:04 PM
Jul 2019

Sessions was rewarded with the AG position for supporting Trump. I don't agree with Sessions on many, many political topics, but he at least appears to be "honorable" and had the respect of Senators on both sides of the aisle. There's probably nothing "bad enough" in Sessions past to be blackmailed like this. But who knows.

donkeypoofed

(2,187 posts)
3. Barr's daddy hired Epstein as a teacher (who has no degree)
Tue Jul 9, 2019, 12:02 PM
Jul 2019

Then after Epstein left, so did daddy Barr, like within days. Something fishy and smelly here - but that's what all these dirty ole white boys are.

ScratchCat

(1,990 posts)
7. And this connection to Epstein
Tue Jul 9, 2019, 12:07 PM
Jul 2019

HAD to be known prior to Barr being asked to throw himself on the sword for Trump and the GOP. It HAD to be.

lagomorph777

(30,613 posts)
5. Now that Barr has un-recused (quelle surprise!) we need to dig very deeply.
Tue Jul 9, 2019, 12:04 PM
Jul 2019

He is probably one of Epstein's clients.

dawg day

(7,947 posts)
6. I heard it last night on MSNBC
Tue Jul 9, 2019, 12:06 PM
Jul 2019

Barr's father (Donald!) was headmaster of the Dalton School (rich NYC prep school). For some reason, he hired Epstein (pre-hedge-fund millions, only 20 years old) to be a teacher there, though Epstein didn't have a degree and wasn't a teacher. This was in 1973, but even then, it must have seemed strange at a school that prestigious to hire someone unqualified. (Supposedly he's a "math genius". Strange that he couldn't remember that all-important number -- 18-- when girls were around.)

The father was booted out (looks like not because he hired Epstein) a year later.


Timeline for Epstein here: https://www.elle.com/culture/celebrities/a28320846/timeline-jeffrey-epstein-scandal-allegations/

ScratchCat

(1,990 posts)
8. If Epstein was only 20 at the time
Tue Jul 9, 2019, 12:11 PM
Jul 2019

Then this would have been WELL before he had money, power and influence. This is a complete stretch to link his hiring at the school to anything regarding the crimes he would be involved in much later in life.

Again, something is up here, and it needs to be found out, but the hiring of a 20-year old Epstein at a private school doesn't seem to nefarious or that it could be connected to sex crimes.

dlk

(11,566 posts)
14. Except that Epstein didn't Have a College Degree, Unheard of for Faculty at a Private School
Tue Jul 9, 2019, 01:26 PM
Jul 2019

When there are so many talented teachers with degrees, why hire someone without a degree? Epstein didn't become a sexual predator overnight after attaining tremendous wealth. Character is ordinarily consistent over time.

C_U_L8R

(45,002 posts)
9. Is it fantastic thinking to wonder...
Tue Jul 9, 2019, 12:13 PM
Jul 2019

if this whole current Epstein thing is orchestrated by the Trump justice dept to actually bury it for good? The timing and the cast of characters raise all kinds of questions and we know they have a penchant for broad daylight corruption. Or is this just your typical sleazy Trump bumblefuckery?

donkeypoofed

(2,187 posts)
11. Barr's daddy hired a 2-time college dropout to teach Physics & Calculus?!
Tue Jul 9, 2019, 01:00 PM
Jul 2019

WTF?!?! Oh, I get it - this is a mafia operation, right? To please Epstein's penchant for young fresh meat, er, girls, I meant. Yeah, yeah, that's it. Then when.Jeffrey realized that 18-22 was too old for his predilections, he turned to 15 yr olds instead.

dlk

(11,566 posts)
13. The Fact That Barr's Father Hired Epstein to Teach at the Prestigious Dalton School...
Tue Jul 9, 2019, 01:23 PM
Jul 2019

...and Epstein didn't even have a college degree definitely smells funny. Especially, when the school's board did a subsequent investigation and Barr's father and Epstein were quietly discharged. Through the years, Trump has openly admitted he is a sexual predator and was good friends with Epstein. Birds of a feather...

OnDoutside

(19,956 posts)
15. NY Times archive has more on Barr senior's departure
Tue Jul 9, 2019, 03:15 PM
Jul 2019
https://t.co/vasfugqacY

https://www.nytimes.com/1974/02/20/archives/barr-quits-dalton-school-post-charging-trustees-interference.html

Donald Barr, the controversial and outspoken headmaster of the Dalton School, one of the city's largest and most selective private schools, has resigned in protest of what he considers the trustee's interference with his leadership. “Everyone knows that I am somewhat anachronistic in my views of the educational leadership of a school,” Mr. Barr wrote in a letter yesterday to faculty members and parents. “I am not comfortable with the definition of board‐head relations that I see becoming current in schools everywhere.” Mr. Barr's resignation, which the board says was not requested and not expected, comes after 10 frequently stormy years as head of Dalton, which is housed in an 11‐story, brick building at 108 East 89th Street.

Question of Authority

The source of conflict between the strong‐minded Mr. Barr and his 20‐member board seemed to center on the question of where the board's authority should yield to the headmaster's judgment. There was apparently no one incident that prompted the resignation, but the confrontation was exacerbated by financial pressures that have forced the school to set priorities. “The issue is the prerogatives of the board and the headmaster,” said Richard Ravitch, a construction company executive who is president of the board. “My sense of trusteeship and my understanding of the requirements of the state law And the bylaws of the school all say to me that it is the obligation of the trustees of an institution to make all the policies.”

Ironically, the present board of trustees includes many parents who rose to Mr. Barr's defense when a faction of the former board and some of the parents sought his ouster in 1971. He was accused then of turning a “humanistic, progressive” school into one in which “discipline and authoritarian rule” were the hallmarks. The issues then had nothing to do with this issue now,” Mr. Ravitch said. “All of us who are now officers of the board were supportive of him in that fight and supported his educational philosophy.” Mr. Barr said that he would remain until June 7 as headmaster of the coeducational school, which has grown rapidly under his leadership to an enrollment of 1,254 from prekindergarten through 12th

The growing financial constraints that have come to bear on privately supported institutions are known to have heightened tensions between Mr. Barr and the board over the question of the extent to which cutbacks should be made among faculty and staff members. Last month, Dalton dismissed several clerical and administrative employes and announced that more than a halfdozen teaching positions would be eliminated next fall. Furthermore, an average increase of about $150 was announced in the tuition and fee schedule, which now ranges from $1,936 for pre‐kinder‐garteners to $3,126 for high school students.

“Certain things are essential and not to be touched, however you solve your problems,” Mr. Barr said as he paced the floor of his cluttered office, his hands on his hips. “So far, I've patched together working solutions, but under economic stress I fear my differences with the board as to what's important are likely to show up more and more sharply.” An additional source of friction between Mr. Barr and the board seems to be the board's hiring of an outside committee to study the school and to assess its operation under Mr. Barr. The first of the consultants, by coincidence, arrived yesterday and was in the headmaster's outer office as Mr. Barr was inside talking to reporter about his resignation. Mr. Ravitch said yesterday that “everyone in the school was shocked and saddened” by the resignation and that it was possible that some board members might try to dissuade Mr. Barr from leaving.

A version of this archives appears in print on February 20, 1974, on Page 41 of the New York edition with the headline: Barr Quits Dalton School Post, Charging Trustees' Interference. Order Reprints| Today's Paper|Subscribe

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