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Since WHEN have Hispanic people not been considered a race? (Original Post) Doreen Jul 2019 OP
Since always? Spider Jerusalem Jul 2019 #1
Thank you for explaining that. Doreen Jul 2019 #5
You Mean Exactly itcfish Jul 2019 #16
It's an ethnicity, not a race ... (nt) mr_lebowski Jul 2019 #2
Thank you for explaining. Doreen Jul 2019 #6
I don't like the term "race" ProudLib72 Jul 2019 #3
I agree. Doreen Jul 2019 #7
there are black hispanics, native(indigenous) hispanics, white hispanics. many are some mix of those JI7 Jul 2019 #4
Thank you for explaining. Doreen Jul 2019 #8
Techncially Hispanic refers to Hispania, the Roman name for the Iberian Peninsula NutmegYankee Jul 2019 #9
I just know customerserviceguy Jul 2019 #10
Hispanic refers to Western Hemisphere Spanish/Portuguese speaking people of all races. CottonBear Jul 2019 #14
I work for the Census Bureau and have found a lot of confusion... TreasonousBastard Jul 2019 #11
Our company classifies Spanish and Portuguese speaking South Americans as smirkymonkey Jul 2019 #12
Race Is a Social Construct, Scientists Argue safeinOhio Jul 2019 #13
Crime reports typically don't include "Hispanic" or "Latino." Igel Jul 2019 #15
Thank you for explaining. Doreen Jul 2019 #17
 

Spider Jerusalem

(21,786 posts)
1. Since always?
Tue Jul 2, 2019, 12:01 AM
Jul 2019

"Hispanic" means "Spanish-speaking" and encompasses people of European, African, Native American, and mestizo ancestry.

itcfish

(1,828 posts)
16. You Mean Exactly
Tue Jul 2, 2019, 10:04 AM
Jul 2019

like people in the United States except they speak Spanish. I never understood why they classify Hispanic as a race.

JI7

(89,172 posts)
4. there are black hispanics, native(indigenous) hispanics, white hispanics. many are some mix of those
Tue Jul 2, 2019, 12:10 AM
Jul 2019

NutmegYankee

(16,177 posts)
9. Techncially Hispanic refers to Hispania, the Roman name for the Iberian Peninsula
Tue Jul 2, 2019, 12:23 AM
Jul 2019

Which is part of Europe and the peoples there are considered European. The Spanish/Portuguese were more accepting of mixed races and were more tolerant to other races, and these other groups blended into their colonial society easily compared to USA history. We use Hispanic as a sub-ethnicity to distinguish people originating from the Spanish speaking world, as it often serves as a proxy for Latin American.

customerserviceguy

(25,183 posts)
10. I just know
Tue Jul 2, 2019, 12:27 AM
Jul 2019

that on a lot of survey sites I do, they ask your race first (color-based) then on the next page, they ask if you are Hispanic or not. I've seen people from Cuba, either very dark or very white, and they're all Hispanics.

CottonBear

(21,596 posts)
14. Hispanic refers to Western Hemisphere Spanish/Portuguese speaking people of all races.
Tue Jul 2, 2019, 06:10 AM
Jul 2019

Hispanic is a cuntural identity term based on language and ethnicity.

TreasonousBastard

(43,049 posts)
11. I work for the Census Bureau and have found a lot of confusion...
Tue Jul 2, 2019, 01:06 AM
Jul 2019

among Hispanics. They generally do not self-identify along what we would consider racial lines, so the default is "white".

Personally, I think that's a healthier way to look at things. "Race" is merely a set of genes we have no control over. Much more important is culture and heritage.

 

smirkymonkey

(63,221 posts)
12. Our company classifies Spanish and Portuguese speaking South Americans as
Tue Jul 2, 2019, 01:35 AM
Jul 2019

Hispanics. However, many of them are of European descent that is not Hispanic, such as German, Italian, Russian, British, Poles, etc. However, when they are here they are still classified as Hispanic because they are from Spanish/Portuguese speaking nations, even though ethnically they might not have a drop of Hispanic blood in them.

It doesn't refer to a race, but I think to a linguistic group, just as Scandinavians are part of the same linguistic group, but might differ greatly culturally.

Igel

(35,191 posts)
15. Crime reports typically don't include "Hispanic" or "Latino."
Tue Jul 2, 2019, 10:01 AM
Jul 2019

It's something you have to ascertain apart from visual examination. It makes a lot of ethnicity-related crime discussions difficult.

Once had Latino students in my class object when a girl called herself Latino. The vast majority of Latino students were Mexican, a large minority were Central American. She was from Argentina, blonde and blue-eyed, paler than this Irish-American.

They'd concluded that somehow "Latino" was the "race" that was the hybrid of indio and European, because that was their limited experience. Just as an Iranian I knew, they were surprised when I said they were "white" as far as the federal government is concerned, and the only people who'd have claimed they were non-white when I was a kid were inveterate racists--the kind who, a hundred years before, would have said that Italians and Irish weren't white.

Problem is, if they're "white" then a lot of political ideology has some problems. But there are already difficulties. One thing that being the dominant race/ethnicity grants you is the privilege of having everybody else defined by reference to your group. Note that I'm a non-Hispanic white for many purposes.

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