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It's a Sad State of Affairs When the President is Accused of Rape & It's Not the Lead News Story (Original Post) dlk Jun 2019 OP
If the Dems don't pile on this story, we will lose in 2020. JoeOtterbein Jun 2019 #1
What do you mean by pile on? live love laugh Jun 2019 #19
Trump is a brutal, violent rapist. JoeOtterbein Jun 2019 #20
That may be true but what do you mean by pile on? nt live love laugh Jun 2019 #21
Repeat the words: JoeOtterbein Jun 2019 #26
The same way they've piled on Biden for his Senator Eastland "boy" comments sop Jun 2019 #29
Okay I repeated the words "brutal, violent rapist" Now what? live love laugh Jun 2019 #30
Use it over and over. No matter what it takes. JoeOtterbein Jun 2019 #32
I believe there's lots of room for better messaging live love laugh Jun 2019 #45
Please keep fighting! JoeOtterbein Jun 2019 #47
That's what happens when you dumb down society...at least a good percentage of it. Frustratedlady Jun 2019 #2
Think about how long it will take to climb out of this BigmanPigman Jun 2019 #3
Trump is a Sexual Predator. I Wouldn't Be Surprised if There Were Many More Women dlk Jun 2019 #4
without doubt Dotard is a vile person at140 Jun 2019 #36
True or Not, They Didn't "Ask for It" dlk Jun 2019 #40
Remember Harvey Weinstein ? at140 Jun 2019 #56
Don't Blame the Women for a Misogynistic System dlk Jun 2019 #57
Agree that women are not to blame at140 Jun 2019 #58
I agree duforsure Jun 2019 #53
chris hayes just pounded it, and she is coming up on lawrence. mopinko Jun 2019 #5
I've Been Watching Chris' Show dlk Jun 2019 #10
This message was self-deleted by its author enough Jun 2019 #6
Trump is a serial rapist and a serial arsonist. dalton99a Jun 2019 #7
Why would this rape accusation against Trump have any more impact than all the others? NT enough Jun 2019 #8
Is there statute of limitations? bluestarone Jun 2019 #9
There Isn't a Statute of Limitations in NY for Rape dlk Jun 2019 #11
Clinton was impeached for consensual non-intercourse unblock Jun 2019 #12
That's not what Clinton was impeached for. Mr.Bill Jun 2019 #24
Yeah, I should have just said he caught way more crap than Donnie ever will.... unblock Jun 2019 #48
No he wasn't AncientGeezer Jun 2019 #44
Right, but the point stands. unblock Jun 2019 #49
Again, welcome to your times America. You fucked up. Shaddox Jun 2019 #13
It's literally JustAnotherGen Jun 2019 #14
people are being tortured and it doesn't lead the news. barbtries Jun 2019 #15
Global climate change doesn't lead the news either Raine Jun 2019 #38
right. barbtries Jun 2019 #46
Old news? hunter Jun 2019 #16
K&R UTUSN Jun 2019 #17
Much of America is in an apathetic fog of bad TV and social networking NRaleighLiberal Jun 2019 #18
One instinct all men have is to "protect our" families. JoeOtterbein Jun 2019 #23
Very pathetic bdamomma Jun 2019 #28
If it were Clinton or some other Dem president they would be on this story book_worm Jun 2019 #22
Why should the media care if the Dems don't care much? nt JoeOtterbein Jun 2019 #25
American media has a deep fear of Republican retribution. KY_EnviroGuy Jun 2019 #27
Yes, Republicans are Vindictive to a Pathological Degree dlk Jun 2019 #31
Repugs are still a political party. No matter. If they are evil enough to "do anything" JoeOtterbein Jun 2019 #34
Because she is selling a book mainstreetonce Jun 2019 #33
I would too! nt JoeOtterbein Jun 2019 #35
I Watched E. Jean Carroll on Lawrence O'Donnell dlk Jun 2019 #37
great interview certainot Jun 2019 #39
It Broke My Heart to Watch Her dlk Jun 2019 #41
it was riveting. and she still has the dress. certainot Jun 2019 #42
She Has No Doubt Already Started Receiving Death Threats from the Trumpers dlk Jun 2019 #43
so, will limbaugh amp up the death threats on monday? certainot Jun 2019 #50
No Telling dlk Jun 2019 #51
I hope she gets to do the View mainstreetonce Jun 2019 #54
Kornaci(sp?) spent all of two minutes on the story padah513 Jun 2019 #52
Priorities... dlk Jun 2019 #55

JoeOtterbein

(7,699 posts)
1. If the Dems don't pile on this story, we will lose in 2020.
Fri Jun 21, 2019, 08:14 PM
Jun 2019

We can't expect the media to care any more than Dem leaders. Now is the time to show their stuff.

JoeOtterbein

(7,699 posts)
26. Repeat the words:
Fri Jun 21, 2019, 10:27 PM
Jun 2019

Trump is a Brutal, Violent Rapist.

A perfect description with at least a kernel of truth.

It's what repugs do all the time.

JoeOtterbein

(7,699 posts)
32. Use it over and over. No matter what it takes.
Fri Jun 21, 2019, 10:37 PM
Jun 2019

Now use your power to speak it out loud:

Trump is an Evil, Brutal, Violent, Rapist.

Believe me it will garner attention if you believe it is true!

live love laugh

(13,081 posts)
45. I believe there's lots of room for better messaging
Fri Jun 21, 2019, 11:29 PM
Jun 2019

but recognizing that there are constraints and limitations when it comes to access is important too.

Just because I say “it” doesn’t mean that the opposition-owned media will broadcast it. And that they don’t broadcast it or edit or limit what is said doesn’t make the message or messenger wrong, or weak.

Frustratedlady

(16,254 posts)
2. That's what happens when you dumb down society...at least a good percentage of it.
Fri Jun 21, 2019, 08:17 PM
Jun 2019

How many more are in the wings? Most, we'll never hear about, but he doesn't know which ones will step forward. Seems the only time he's concerned is when he's running for POTUS.

Melania must have one hell of a good pre-nup to put up with all these women stepping forward.

BigmanPigman

(51,571 posts)
3. Think about how long it will take to climb out of this
Fri Jun 21, 2019, 08:19 PM
Jun 2019

shithole that he has put the country in. I ran a DU poll a few weeks ago and 2/3 of those who replied said that it will take over 30 years to get back to normal. One third voted for less than 5 years for a return to normalcy. I think it realistically will be 30+.

dlk

(11,520 posts)
4. Trump is a Sexual Predator. I Wouldn't Be Surprised if There Were Many More Women
Fri Jun 21, 2019, 08:22 PM
Jun 2019

I also wouldn’t be surprised if the Russian blackmail videos are of Trump raping women, maybe sex workers, maybe underaged girls from his beauty pageant. If ever a man belonged behind bars...

at140

(6,110 posts)
36. without doubt Dotard is a vile person
Fri Jun 21, 2019, 10:45 PM
Jun 2019

however do not under-estimate the power of wealth to attract women. Do you think for a minute if Trump had a school teacher's income, Melania would have married him? Or for that matter his previous wives who were all attractive women.

dlk

(11,520 posts)
40. True or Not, They Didn't "Ask for It"
Fri Jun 21, 2019, 11:01 PM
Jun 2019

The world is a very unfair place. Yet, women get blamed for anything awful a rich man does to them. They are called gold diggers and worse. What are the men who lie, cheat, steal and kill to get rich? There isn’t even a similar perjorative word for it.

at140

(6,110 posts)
56. Remember Harvey Weinstein ?
Sat Jun 22, 2019, 01:17 PM
Jun 2019

He was fat, ugly, unshaven and fairly old. How many young & beautiful females he was able to molest?
It was all about money the females were after via careers in Hollywood.

dlk

(11,520 posts)
57. Don't Blame the Women for a Misogynistic System
Sat Jun 22, 2019, 03:28 PM
Jun 2019

Women who who want a better job and a better life don’t deserve to be abused or raped, no matter how beautiful they are and how ugly the man may be.

at140

(6,110 posts)
58. Agree that women are not to blame
Sat Jun 22, 2019, 03:54 PM
Jun 2019

That is not the point.
The point is rich & powerful men attract lot of beautiful & young females.

duforsure

(11,885 posts)
53. I agree
Sat Jun 22, 2019, 06:44 AM
Jun 2019

And his pattern doing this is very clear he is a violent predator of women, and unless she was going to do something about what happened to her, she's allowing this pattern to continue to other women. Very disappointed she won't get rape charges against him going, and others should come out now and drag his ass to court , and have him put under oath . Putin knows what his weaknesses are , and you can bet he has him on tape hurting , and raping girls. Something that also stood out is this woman gives advice, and she can't be taken as credible doing that anymore if she refuses to stand up to a man after this happened to her. What kind of message does that send to other women.

Response to dlk (Original post)

dlk

(11,520 posts)
11. There Isn't a Statute of Limitations in NY for Rape
Fri Jun 21, 2019, 08:44 PM
Jun 2019

Just when you think Trump couldn’t get any more disgusting...

unblock

(52,126 posts)
12. Clinton was impeached for consensual non-intercourse
Fri Jun 21, 2019, 08:44 PM
Jun 2019

Donald the rapist has non-consensual intercourse and nothing will come of it.

unblock

(52,126 posts)
49. Right, but the point stands.
Fri Jun 21, 2019, 11:53 PM
Jun 2019

Donnie will pay far less of a price than Clinton for a far worse offense.

JustAnotherGen

(31,783 posts)
14. It's literally
Fri Jun 21, 2019, 08:54 PM
Jun 2019

The M.O. He told Billy Bush. Lying on Telemundo that Obama separated children. Taking America to the brink of war.

This is why I have zero patience for any attacks on Democratic candidates.

We have to Fucking WIN.

Don't kill the dog to get the puppy.

barbtries

(28,774 posts)
15. people are being tortured and it doesn't lead the news.
Fri Jun 21, 2019, 09:40 PM
Jun 2019

maybe today it did, I don't know because i needed a news free day because of what's going on.

Raine

(30,540 posts)
38. Global climate change doesn't lead the news either
Fri Jun 21, 2019, 10:53 PM
Jun 2019

the situation gets more dire every day but not only does it not lead it rarely gets a mention at all. And no people being tortured wasn't on the news as a lead today or at all either.

barbtries

(28,774 posts)
46. right.
Fri Jun 21, 2019, 11:37 PM
Jun 2019

trump's tweets. that leads the news.

right now the people at the border have me feeling pretty overwrought. but yes, climate change. and more and more.

NRaleighLiberal

(60,011 posts)
18. Much of America is in an apathetic fog of bad TV and social networking
Fri Jun 21, 2019, 09:59 PM
Jun 2019

We are on the decline, for sure - but not just America - human beings as a species. And we deserve whatever will happen.

No more critical thinking going on - just glomming into our bubbles of agreement, brainwashed, pretty pathetic really.

bdamomma

(63,803 posts)
28. Very pathetic
Fri Jun 21, 2019, 10:31 PM
Jun 2019

fascists are moving with their agenda and we are not. The election won't save us, we need impeachment inquiry now.

book_worm

(15,951 posts)
22. If it were Clinton or some other Dem president they would be on this story
Fri Jun 21, 2019, 10:23 PM
Jun 2019

every day--but once again a GOP president gets a pass.

KY_EnviroGuy

(14,488 posts)
27. American media has a deep fear of Republican retribution.
Fri Jun 21, 2019, 10:29 PM
Jun 2019

In addition, most boards of directors are probably loaded with profit-hungry right-wingers.

I believe most adhere to Reagan's 11th Commandment.

Could not find front-page coverage on the three main U.S. news network's internet sites. We might note that a quick scan of media outlets around the globe found several front-page mentions in Europe, at least one in India, but none in Asia.

Most news outlets around the globe today are saturated with coverage of the Trump-created Iran crisis....

dlk

(11,520 posts)
31. Yes, Republicans are Vindictive to a Pathological Degree
Fri Jun 21, 2019, 10:34 PM
Jun 2019

When people have no conscience, they can do anything.

JoeOtterbein

(7,699 posts)
34. Repugs are still a political party. No matter. If they are evil enough to "do anything"
Fri Jun 21, 2019, 10:41 PM
Jun 2019

we must strike now! Violent Rape is the worst ever.

Use it. And everything we can throw at Trump.

Or lose to them again if we are not perceived to be fighters.

dlk

(11,520 posts)
37. I Watched E. Jean Carroll on Lawrence O'Donnell
Fri Jun 21, 2019, 10:51 PM
Jun 2019

She was very credible. What was so striking was the obvious pain she is still experiencing, even after so many years. If you have ever known a woman who has been raped, you would see it. Joyce Vance was the next guest and she made it clear, Carroll was very credible and exhibited behaviors common with of rape survivors. BTW, no one makes snarky comments about men writers wanting to sell books.

 

certainot

(9,090 posts)
42. it was riveting. and she still has the dress.
Fri Jun 21, 2019, 11:10 PM
Jun 2019

i don't know how long the dna evidence lasts or if a defense team could say it was faked, but it could create real fear for trump

dlk

(11,520 posts)
43. She Has No Doubt Already Started Receiving Death Threats from the Trumpers
Fri Jun 21, 2019, 11:19 PM
Jun 2019

I hope she stays safe.

padah513

(2,496 posts)
52. Kornaci(sp?) spent all of two minutes on the story
Sat Jun 22, 2019, 03:15 AM
Jun 2019

But he talked about Biden for fifteen or twenty. He spent more time on the Mannafort/Hannity connection than on Trump.

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