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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsWhen the people start dying in Iran I will blame HILLARY HATERS
FUCK ALL OF YOU TILL THE END OF TIME
Do you blame a rabid dog for biting you? Bolton and rump are incapable of doing the right thing about anything ever, so yes they are to blame of course, but they should NOT be there and one of the MAIN reasons they are is
HILLARY HATERS
Autumn
(44,765 posts)and deflecting for them. Hillary fucking won, blame Trump and Russia.
we can do it
(12,118 posts)Eliot Rosewater
(31,097 posts)we didnt have millions of people hating her when there is NO reason NOT ONE to hate her.
treestar
(82,383 posts)could have affected the swing state voters just enough so that they did not vote in numbers needed to win those states.
Autumn
(44,765 posts)Hillary won the popular vote by over three million votes. Your Hillary haters as you call them had nothing to do with her loss. This is nothing more than deflecting the blame away from where it belongs.
Not worth my time.
Autumn
(44,765 posts)Yet it's regular as clockwork with some.
we can do it
(12,118 posts)MFM008
(19,782 posts)Are so much worse than another war.
Eliot Rosewater
(31,097 posts)ooky
(8,889 posts)profited from it.
Dennis Donovan
(18,770 posts)...wait, wot?
Calculating
(2,954 posts)We have Trump because of Russia rigging our election and the disgraceful electoral college that cheated Hillary out of her popular vote win.
Eliot Rosewater
(31,097 posts)lying about a candidate if not to create negative feelings about said candidate hoping that others will
etc etc
OF COURSE it was a MAJOR part of it , EVERY election this shit happens to candidates and in THIS ONE it was 30 years in the making
Autumn
(44,765 posts)provide cover for them and the Russian tampering by blaming Americans who voted in a tamped election. I find that really interesting.
mr_lebowski
(33,643 posts)And there are also issues that actually have MULTIPLE causes, and/or layers of causes.
I would posit that your counter-argument to Eliot is roughly as logical as arguing that today's current "Energy Companies" are 100% responsible for Climate Change.
It's very analogous, in fact.
And equally flawed.
JHMO
Autumn
(44,765 posts)Propaganda. Ya know? JMHO
mr_lebowski
(33,643 posts)I think it can be equally well-argued that 75K stupid Hillary-Hating voters who stayed home or voted 3rd-Party in WI, MI, and PN ... are 'responsible for Trump'.
Fact is, there is no 'one cause' here, therefore your 'exclusive' argument has exactly the same fundamental flaws that Eliot's does ...
Autumn
(44,765 posts)voted for her to overcome that 75K vote deficit easily. People stay home every election or vote third party and Dems have still won. Dems sitting out elections has always happened. This time there was a lot more at play than voters who didn't show up to vote. Take away the 75k and that still leaves her winning the popular vote by two million nine hundred twenty-five thousand votes.
Obviously, there wasn't that many "Hillary haters" so lets put the blame where it belongs and not give them cover. I'm done with this thread. Have a nice day.
ismnotwasm
(41,921 posts)Ones who publicly stated their hate for Hillary and then are now ever so slightly backpedaling (at least one well-known pundit) instead of saying I fucked up is actually disgusting. I was exposed to a he same information. I was never fooled
TheFarseer
(9,308 posts)Can you blame Trump, Bolton, Pompeo and anyone that votes yes in any vote that comes up instead of being divisive?
Eliot Rosewater
(31,097 posts)there IS NO ANSWER to that
Response to Eliot Rosewater (Reply #11)
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Mariana
(14,849 posts)A DUer actually posted a while back that s/he does not blame Republican voters for Trump and other Republicans winning elections. "They are voting their values," so they shouldn't be held responsible for anything that happens as a result of their Republican votes. Nonvoters and third party voters are entirely at fault.
It doesn't make any sense to me, either.
Skittles
(152,967 posts)hatred of Hilary is based on misogyny and rightwing garbage
Eliot Rosewater
(31,097 posts)JonLP24
(29,322 posts)Clinton says U.S. could "totally obliterate" Iran
On the day of a crucial vote in her nomination battle against fellow Democrat Barack Obama, the New York senator said she wanted to make clear to Tehran what she was prepared to do as president in hopes that this warning would deter any Iranian nuclear attack against the Jewish state.
I want the Iranians to know that if Im the president, we will attack Iran (if it attacks Israel), Clinton said in an interview on ABCs Good Morning America.
In the next 10 years, during which they might foolishly consider launching an attack on Israel, we would be able to totally obliterate them, she said.
Thats a terrible thing to say but those people who run Iran need to understand that because that perhaps will deter them from doing something that would be reckless, foolish and tragic, Clinton said.
Her comments appeared harder than a week ago, when during a presidential debate she promised massive retaliation against any Iranian attack on Israel.
Obama rejected Clintons rhetoric as saber rattling on a day when Pennsylvania Democrats voted in a party primary contest that could help decide which Democrat will face Republican John McCain for the White House in the November general election.
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-politics-iran/clinton-says-u-s-could-totally-obliterate-iran-idUSN2224332720080422
Maybe with the Iran deal she wouldn't be quite as hawkish. I'm just saying your post reminded me of when Hillary Clinton threatened Iran during a debate.
bahrbearian
(13,466 posts)oasis
(49,152 posts)Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin
(107,112 posts)ismnotwasm
(41,921 posts)wryter2000
(46,016 posts)Suffering and dying at our Southern border?
ismnotwasm
(41,921 posts)wryter2000
(46,016 posts)It's amazing there haven't been more deaths.
Eliot Rosewater
(31,097 posts)them too