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Eliot Rosewater

(31,097 posts)
Thu Jun 20, 2019, 01:35 PM Jun 2019

When the people start dying in Iran I will blame HILLARY HATERS

FUCK ALL OF YOU TILL THE END OF TIME

Do you blame a rabid dog for biting you? Bolton and rump are incapable of doing the right thing about anything ever, so yes they are to blame of course, but they should NOT be there and one of the MAIN reasons they are is

HILLARY HATERS

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When the people start dying in Iran I will blame HILLARY HATERS (Original Post) Eliot Rosewater Jun 2019 OP
Maybe you should focus on the people actually threatening war instead of giving them cover Autumn Jun 2019 #1
One reason we have drump is Hillary Haters we can do it Jun 2019 #5
It is a big reason, imagine how hard it would have been for putin to steal it if Eliot Rosewater Jun 2019 #8
Yes, exactly, the amount of negativity treestar Jun 2019 #36
Bull. We have Trump because of the electoral college and Russia tampering. Autumn Jun 2019 #12
🙄 we can do it Jun 2019 #15
Giving cover to the ones who tampered in our election by blaming others is not worth anyone's time. Autumn Jun 2019 #19
Who is doing that?! One of many reasons we have drump is idiots who hated Hillary. we can do it Jun 2019 #22
"Acid washed" emails MFM008 Jun 2019 #2
YEP Eliot Rosewater Jun 2019 #3
You will have plenty of company. I will be blaming them, and those who ooky Jun 2019 #4
Yuh! Dennis Donovan Jun 2019 #6
No Calculating Jun 2019 #7
No? then why do the russians, GOP and others spend billions of dollars Eliot Rosewater Jun 2019 #10
So you admit you know that Russia, the gop and others spent billions to defeat her. Yet you Autumn Jun 2019 #18
People (voters) CAN be smart/informed enough to resist Russian Propaganda, ya know? mr_lebowski Jun 2019 #24
She won by over 3 million votes so enough voters were smart/informed enough to resist Russian Autumn Jun 2019 #26
Given that the 3M votes are irrelevant w/the way the Electoral College system works ... mr_lebowski Jun 2019 #31
Yes those 3 million votes are irrelevant, just as the so called " Hillary haters" are . Enough Autumn Jun 2019 #35
I find any number of things interesting ismnotwasm Jun 2019 #25
Sigh TheFarseer Jun 2019 #9
Divisive, so I should be nice to Hillary Haters? you dont need to answer Eliot Rosewater Jun 2019 #11
Post removed Post removed Jun 2019 #34
Heavens, no, we can't have that. Mariana Jun 2019 #17
they won't accept any responsibility Skittles Jun 2019 #13
If people are able to admit they bought the lies and are sorry, that is one thing. Eliot Rosewater Jun 2019 #14
I don't hate Hillary Clinton but she has been very hawkish on Iran in the past JonLP24 Jun 2019 #16
What about soldiers who died in Iraq? bahrbearian Jun 2019 #20
Whatabout "whataboutism"? oasis Jun 2019 #32
I do know a few who voted for Trump because they thought Hillary was a war monger Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Jun 2019 #21
Yes. ismnotwasm Jun 2019 #23
How about the people wryter2000 Jun 2019 #27
The dying has already begun ismnotwasm Jun 2019 #28
Given the conditions in those camps wryter2000 Jun 2019 #29
How about all the hell people are going thru because of the HILLARY BASHERS, yes of course Eliot Rosewater Jun 2019 #38
Will Susan Saranwrap do any reflection? Hassler Jun 2019 #30
As long as you share the blame with bernie , sure Fullduplexxx Jun 2019 #33
Same here Gothmog Jun 2019 #37

Autumn

(44,765 posts)
1. Maybe you should focus on the people actually threatening war instead of giving them cover
Thu Jun 20, 2019, 01:37 PM
Jun 2019

and deflecting for them. Hillary fucking won, blame Trump and Russia.

Eliot Rosewater

(31,097 posts)
8. It is a big reason, imagine how hard it would have been for putin to steal it if
Thu Jun 20, 2019, 01:42 PM
Jun 2019

we didnt have millions of people hating her when there is NO reason NOT ONE to hate her.

treestar

(82,383 posts)
36. Yes, exactly, the amount of negativity
Thu Jun 20, 2019, 04:05 PM
Jun 2019

could have affected the swing state voters just enough so that they did not vote in numbers needed to win those states.

Autumn

(44,765 posts)
12. Bull. We have Trump because of the electoral college and Russia tampering.
Thu Jun 20, 2019, 01:46 PM
Jun 2019

Hillary won the popular vote by over three million votes. Your Hillary haters as you call them had nothing to do with her loss. This is nothing more than deflecting the blame away from where it belongs.

Autumn

(44,765 posts)
19. Giving cover to the ones who tampered in our election by blaming others is not worth anyone's time.
Thu Jun 20, 2019, 01:57 PM
Jun 2019

Yet it's regular as clockwork with some.

Calculating

(2,954 posts)
7. No
Thu Jun 20, 2019, 01:42 PM
Jun 2019

We have Trump because of Russia rigging our election and the disgraceful electoral college that cheated Hillary out of her popular vote win.

Eliot Rosewater

(31,097 posts)
10. No? then why do the russians, GOP and others spend billions of dollars
Thu Jun 20, 2019, 01:45 PM
Jun 2019

lying about a candidate if not to create negative feelings about said candidate hoping that others will

etc etc

OF COURSE it was a MAJOR part of it , EVERY election this shit happens to candidates and in THIS ONE it was 30 years in the making

Autumn

(44,765 posts)
18. So you admit you know that Russia, the gop and others spent billions to defeat her. Yet you
Thu Jun 20, 2019, 01:53 PM
Jun 2019

provide cover for them and the Russian tampering by blaming Americans who voted in a tamped election. I find that really interesting.

 

mr_lebowski

(33,643 posts)
24. People (voters) CAN be smart/informed enough to resist Russian Propaganda, ya know?
Thu Jun 20, 2019, 02:04 PM
Jun 2019

And there are also issues that actually have MULTIPLE causes, and/or layers of causes.

I would posit that your counter-argument to Eliot is roughly as logical as arguing that today's current "Energy Companies" are 100% responsible for Climate Change.

It's very analogous, in fact.

And equally flawed.

JHMO

Autumn

(44,765 posts)
26. She won by over 3 million votes so enough voters were smart/informed enough to resist Russian
Thu Jun 20, 2019, 02:08 PM
Jun 2019

Propaganda. Ya know? JMHO

 

mr_lebowski

(33,643 posts)
31. Given that the 3M votes are irrelevant w/the way the Electoral College system works ...
Thu Jun 20, 2019, 02:44 PM
Jun 2019

I think it can be equally well-argued that 75K stupid Hillary-Hating voters who stayed home or voted 3rd-Party in WI, MI, and PN ... are 'responsible for Trump'.

Fact is, there is no 'one cause' here, therefore your 'exclusive' argument has exactly the same fundamental flaws that Eliot's does ...

Autumn

(44,765 posts)
35. Yes those 3 million votes are irrelevant, just as the so called " Hillary haters" are . Enough
Thu Jun 20, 2019, 04:02 PM
Jun 2019

voted for her to overcome that 75K vote deficit easily. People stay home every election or vote third party and Dems have still won. Dems sitting out elections has always happened. This time there was a lot more at play than voters who didn't show up to vote. Take away the 75k and that still leaves her winning the popular vote by two million nine hundred twenty-five thousand votes.

Obviously, there wasn't that many "Hillary haters" so lets put the blame where it belongs and not give them cover. I'm done with this thread. Have a nice day.

ismnotwasm

(41,921 posts)
25. I find any number of things interesting
Thu Jun 20, 2019, 02:08 PM
Jun 2019

Ones who publicly stated their hate for Hillary and then are now ever so slightly backpedaling (at least one well-known pundit) instead of saying “I fucked up” is actually disgusting. I was exposed to a he same information. I was never fooled

TheFarseer

(9,308 posts)
9. Sigh
Thu Jun 20, 2019, 01:42 PM
Jun 2019

Can you blame Trump, Bolton, Pompeo and anyone that votes yes in any vote that comes up instead of being divisive?

Response to Eliot Rosewater (Reply #11)

Mariana

(14,849 posts)
17. Heavens, no, we can't have that.
Thu Jun 20, 2019, 01:53 PM
Jun 2019

A DUer actually posted a while back that s/he does not blame Republican voters for Trump and other Republicans winning elections. "They are voting their values," so they shouldn't be held responsible for anything that happens as a result of their Republican votes. Nonvoters and third party voters are entirely at fault.

It doesn't make any sense to me, either.

JonLP24

(29,322 posts)
16. I don't hate Hillary Clinton but she has been very hawkish on Iran in the past
Thu Jun 20, 2019, 01:52 PM
Jun 2019

Clinton says U.S. could "totally obliterate" Iran

On the day of a crucial vote in her nomination battle against fellow Democrat Barack Obama, the New York senator said she wanted to make clear to Tehran what she was prepared to do as president in hopes that this warning would deter any Iranian nuclear attack against the Jewish state.

“I want the Iranians to know that if I’m the president, we will attack Iran (if it attacks Israel),” Clinton said in an interview on ABC’s “Good Morning America.”

“In the next 10 years, during which they might foolishly consider launching an attack on Israel, we would be able to totally obliterate them,” she said.

“That’s a terrible thing to say but those people who run Iran need to understand that because that perhaps will deter them from doing something that would be reckless, foolish and tragic,” Clinton said.

Her comments appeared harder than a week ago, when during a presidential debate she promised “massive retaliation” against any Iranian attack on Israel.

Obama rejected Clinton’s rhetoric as saber rattling on a day when Pennsylvania Democrats voted in a party primary contest that could help decide which Democrat will face Republican John McCain for the White House in the November general election.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-politics-iran/clinton-says-u-s-could-totally-obliterate-iran-idUSN2224332720080422

Maybe with the Iran deal she wouldn't be quite as hawkish. I'm just saying your post reminded me of when Hillary Clinton threatened Iran during a debate.

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