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Heartstrings

(7,349 posts)
Fri Jun 14, 2019, 09:02 PM Jun 2019

Today, WI Rapids, WI..sad story, they are family friends of ours. 😔😡☹️😥




This note was in Carlos’ locker today at work. I wish I could say it was the first time something like this has happened, but unfortunately I’ve lost count of how many racially charged “incidents” there have been.
If you know me, then you likely also know my husband. You know that he is a guy who works hard for his family, who is a great dad and supporter of his kids, and he is a good husband who goes along with all the crazy things I ask him to do. He volunteers, he will always lend a hand. He’s also much more patient and tolerant than I am.
And also, for the record, he’s from Texas. (And proudly sports a Texas tattoo)
And while Carlos is a tough guy and won’t let this get him down (because he has seen and heard these things his whole life), the (hopefully) unintended consequence is that my children also see and hear these things. What they hear makes them feel that being Hispanic makes them less than, and that there is something inherently wrong with who they are.
Behind every racist comment or note shoved in a locker there is somebody’s dad, husband, son, brother...
Words hurt. Ignorance hurts. Racism hurts.
And if you think that this isn’t a problem, if you think it’s not happening here, it is. Right here in central Wisconsin.
Andrea 💔

Heartstrings here....my 2 grandsons are 1/2 Japanese...4 and 9. If this doesn't stop being standard acceptable behavior, encouraged, and not called out for what it is, I fear the time will come when their culture is called up....damn I hate 45...hate!
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Today, WI Rapids, WI..sad story, they are family friends of ours. 😔😡☹️😥 (Original Post) Heartstrings Jun 2019 OP
I would leave a note for them Skittles Jun 2019 #1
Same blm Jun 2019 #5
Ditto! usaf-vet Jun 2019 #17
That is disgusting!!!!!!!!!!! TruckFump Jun 2019 #2
Sickening Ohiogal Jun 2019 #3
I agree. Trump has emboldened them and Fox News and the right wing media has smirkymonkey Jun 2019 #15
Well said, especially your last sentence. Nt raccoon Jun 2019 #34
This handwriting is distinctive and there would be fingerprints on the paper cutroot Jun 2019 #4
If it is at work, has he contacted management? rurallib Jun 2019 #8
Pretty scary stuff. LakeArenal Jun 2019 #6
yes, Wisconsin has its bigots. riversedge Jun 2019 #7
My family has lake houses in the northern part of the state Blecht Jun 2019 #11
Don't paint us all with the same brush. I would invite you to visit the very top of the state. usaf-vet Jun 2019 #18
I am not painting everybody with the same brush Blecht Jun 2019 #22
Yes, we do and there are many more than people realize. old guy Jun 2019 #32
K&R ismnotwasm Jun 2019 #9
Hope the workplace ends up getting outed. Crunchy Frog Jun 2019 #10
Disgusting. But unsurprising. The workplace is partially at fault. GulfCoast66 Jun 2019 #12
Damn it....... a kennedy Jun 2019 #13
I remind myself impotus is one ignorant racist....but millions of racists voted for him. MLAA Jun 2019 #14
Impotus. Control-Z Jun 2019 #38
People who do this are cowards FakeNoose Jun 2019 #16
I'd take it to HR. roamer65 Jun 2019 #19
Humans choose arrogance over fear anyday. defacto7 Jun 2019 #20
This makes me ashamed Poiuyt Jun 2019 #21
This FIB used to go fishing and camping in WI Sorry it's a not a nice place now outside of Milwaukee lunasun Jun 2019 #23
That's terrible! MineralMan Jun 2019 #24
Put it on a bulletin board in the break room Generic Other Jun 2019 #25
Fuck each and every trump voter Afromania Jun 2019 #26
Leave a note calling them out as cowards and racists BSdetect Jun 2019 #27
I was thinkong exactly that. Post the note on the front onetexan Jun 2019 #39
trump has brought out the worse in America. he deserves to be banished forever. GOTV spanone Jun 2019 #28
There are some distinctive letters there jmowreader Jun 2019 #29
Best to report it to management as well & the EEOC onetexan Jun 2019 #40
k&r x 1,000,000 discntnt_irny_srcsm Jun 2019 #30
Maybe some go back to Europe notes should appear and see how they fucking like it. I can't say what UniteFightBack Jun 2019 #31
Disgusting. Sounds like the company needs to have its employees do their annual review of EEOC... SWBTATTReg Jun 2019 #33
I'd tape it to my locker. phylny Jun 2019 #35
Dearest Heartstrings, Niagara Jun 2019 #36
I have lived all over. Wisconsin bigots are the worst GusBob Jun 2019 #37
Trump empowers assholes like this. lpbk2713 Jun 2019 #41

TruckFump

(5,812 posts)
2. That is disgusting!!!!!!!!!!!
Fri Jun 14, 2019, 09:05 PM
Jun 2019


Before I went to law school, I taught HS in the barrio. There is nothing wrong with someone based solely on the fact of Mexican heritage. I am so sick of the prejudice that has been unleashed by have that orange asshole in the WH.

Ohiogal

(31,919 posts)
3. Sickening
Fri Jun 14, 2019, 09:07 PM
Jun 2019

Trump has enabled and nurtured this sickening cancer of hate.

I wish we could round up all the deplorables, put them in their own state, and build a wall around it so we never have to deal with them ever again.

 

smirkymonkey

(63,221 posts)
15. I agree. Trump has emboldened them and Fox News and the right wing media has
Fri Jun 14, 2019, 10:21 PM
Jun 2019

been creating and nurturing them all along. This is sad and disgusting. I am convinced that these people are taught to hate and that it is a mix of their ignorance and fear and the constant encouragement of right-wing politicians and media that are creating this toxic atmosphere of hate and intolerance.

This just needs to stop. There needs to be a balancing force on the other side that fosters understanding and tolerance. I wish we could just get rid of these people, but the reality is that we need to learn how to live together. Something needs to change. The churches could really help here, but they have unfortunately chosen to be part of the problem.

cutroot

(873 posts)
4. This handwriting is distinctive and there would be fingerprints on the paper
Fri Jun 14, 2019, 09:13 PM
Jun 2019

Has he contacted the authorities?

Blecht

(3,803 posts)
11. My family has lake houses in the northern part of the state
Fri Jun 14, 2019, 09:39 PM
Jun 2019

And I'm originally from there, but it has gotten so bad that I do not visit anymore.

Too many fucking MAGA asshole bigot shitheads.

usaf-vet

(6,163 posts)
18. Don't paint us all with the same brush. I would invite you to visit the very top of the state.
Fri Jun 14, 2019, 11:18 PM
Jun 2019

Drive straight north up through the center of the state when you hit Lake Superior water. Stop and visit.

Blecht

(3,803 posts)
22. I am not painting everybody with the same brush
Sat Jun 15, 2019, 01:46 AM
Jun 2019

My family is OK -- I'm sure you're OK, too.

By your description, it sounds like you're probably an hour or so northwest of their neighborhood (Vilas county). You must know how it is around there. I just can't stand being around Trump cultists, and there are a lot.

The last time I was there the local convenience store stopped selling New Glarus beer because a bunch of the Trump fans complained about that "libtard bitch owner".

I should dig up pictures of the Trump bus that was parked along US 45 during a visit during July of 2016. It was a joke to me at the time -- it stopped being funny in November of that year.

Crunchy Frog

(26,578 posts)
10. Hope the workplace ends up getting outed.
Fri Jun 14, 2019, 09:37 PM
Jun 2019

Human resources should be trying to discover the culprit, with immediate firing when they do.

In the meantime they should be subjecting the employees to hours and hours of cultural sensitivity training until these sorts of incidents stop, or every time they happen.

Its management's job to deal with this sort of thing, and if they can't be bothered, then they need to be publicly humiliated.

GulfCoast66

(11,949 posts)
12. Disgusting. But unsurprising. The workplace is partially at fault.
Fri Jun 14, 2019, 09:43 PM
Jun 2019

If this happened at my workplace we would overturn hell to find and fire the guilty Party/Parities.

We were the first company in Florida to offer same-sex benefits way back in the mid 90s. And we had some incidents like this. Based on sexual preference, of course, not race. Even back then people were caught and fired. The Peckerwoods now know to keep their mouths zipped at work. Early in my career people assumed because I was a southern white man, they were safe making comments such as these.

Several years ago I was on the verge of firing a long-term employees. He made derogatory racial comments about one of his Puerto Rican coworkers.

He wisely decided to make a quick retirement. Without his union he would not have gotten that. Not that the union supported his activities, but their job is to represent. They were glad to see him go.

If your hubbies employer is not making an appropriate attempt to prevent this behavior, they put them selves a great legal and financial risk.

I sincerely hope in these incidents soon come to an end.



FakeNoose

(32,596 posts)
16. People who do this are cowards
Fri Jun 14, 2019, 10:34 PM
Jun 2019

I'm sorry your friend had to see this but it's a reflection on some really small-minded bullies, not on your friend. Carlos should report it to his employer because it happened on company property. The boss or supervisor should know what's going on. The company manager would be required to address the problem and make sure it doesn't happen again..

defacto7

(13,485 posts)
20. Humans choose arrogance over fear anyday.
Fri Jun 14, 2019, 11:51 PM
Jun 2019

If someone is convinced they should fear an other, they will put on false ego (arrogance) to combat that fear. Mix that with an ideology that promotes a scapegoat philosophy that alleviates their fear, sins and responsibilities, they rise above others with arrogant impunity in their own mind. Out of this rises bigotry, racism, fascism, etc.

It's an ugly cycle based on ignorance, weakness, propaganda and scapegoatism.

Poiuyt

(18,117 posts)
21. This makes me ashamed
Sat Jun 15, 2019, 01:25 AM
Jun 2019

Ashamed at what has become of America and ashamed that this has happened in my state.

lunasun

(21,646 posts)
23. This FIB used to go fishing and camping in WI Sorry it's a not a nice place now outside of Milwaukee
Sat Jun 15, 2019, 10:54 AM
Jun 2019

What’s with all the confederate flags ? Right over the boarder too
Can’t get much more northern than Wisconsin & any who have been established there for generations probably had ancestors who fought against that flag and died.
But they don’t care that flag just means proud to hate to them now.

Oh and WI resorts have plenty of visa immigrants or some of other less legal status working there - mostly Polish eastern europeon, so that’s OK -don’t want that cheap white help to go away

I was to Milwaukee last year it still is an OK place imo but I’m sure most of the rest of Wisconsin stays away from there so maybe that’s why it’s still cool but I doubt if POC from the city even want to go to those areas to seek work. I wouldn’t .

I was lectured here years ago when I talked about how WI was turning RW & sad to say it has come to be that I wasn’t “ just sensitive or mistaken “
Hope Andrea and her family haven’t been voting republican

MineralMan

(146,262 posts)
24. That's terrible!
Sat Jun 15, 2019, 11:22 AM
Jun 2019

He should hand it over to HR, I think. Maybe he has an idea who might have put that in his locker.

Generic Other

(28,979 posts)
25. Put it on a bulletin board in the break room
Sat Jun 15, 2019, 11:27 AM
Jun 2019

with a blank piece of paper next to it for other comments. Find out what your co-workers think of this behavior.

I am also 1/2 Japanese. Often, I am mistaken for Hispanic or Native American. They will be too. And treated badly enough to understand what it feels like to be other. They will be stronger and more empathetic because they will see firsthand how ugly racism is.

I am so sorry that Carlos has to deal with this at work. Be strong.

Afromania

(2,768 posts)
26. Fuck each and every trump voter
Sat Jun 15, 2019, 12:08 PM
Jun 2019

No matter harmless some folks round these parts want to make some of them. They are ALL responsible for buying in to this either directly of via feigned ignorance.

onetexan

(13,023 posts)
39. I was thinkong exactly that. Post the note on the front
Thu Jun 20, 2019, 07:25 PM
Jun 2019

Along with another note to the racist to expose him to the other coworkers. Im sure they wont have the balls to do it again.

jmowreader

(50,530 posts)
29. There are some distinctive letters there
Sat Jun 15, 2019, 12:41 PM
Jun 2019

A handwriting analyst could nail this guy to the wall pretty easily.

After that, termination and civil penalties are in order. I want the son of a bitch that did this to lose a LOT. And I want that lout in the White House named as an accessory.

onetexan

(13,023 posts)
40. Best to report it to management as well & the EEOC
Thu Jun 20, 2019, 07:27 PM
Jun 2019

So they will be forced to do something about it.

discntnt_irny_srcsm

(18,476 posts)
30. k&r x 1,000,000
Sat Jun 15, 2019, 12:51 PM
Jun 2019

Small minds bounce between fear and hate. They sit quietly in fear and band together when they find others who share the same fear and build their hate for the what and who they fear.

trump has among the smallest of minds.
trump has no real leadership skills and is his only character is bad and immoral.

 

UniteFightBack

(8,231 posts)
31. Maybe some go back to Europe notes should appear and see how they fucking like it. I can't say what
Sat Jun 15, 2019, 01:02 PM
Jun 2019

I really want to I'll leave it at that.

SWBTATTReg

(22,077 posts)
33. Disgusting. Sounds like the company needs to have its employees do their annual review of EEOC...
Sat Jun 15, 2019, 01:14 PM
Jun 2019

Equal Opportunity guidelines (we did at my company, along w/ other 'employment related issues' on an annual basis), and each employee then signs off on these policies (annually)...the company should be more aggressive in stopping this harassing behavior and take steps to try and determine who's the source of this hateful material, e.g., put out an award, clearly state that such actions will lead to an immediate termination, etc.

My company was very strict in compliance every year on these items and did not mess around either when a violation of such conditions occurred...no questions asked, etc. I know, because I lost two of my best computer programmers who couldn't resist in finding out if they got promoted and broke into a personnel database to see if they did...they got caught...it was stupid on their part, I was upset, for I lost one of my top coders...

Niagara

(7,565 posts)
36. Dearest Heartstrings,
Sat Jun 15, 2019, 04:31 PM
Jun 2019

I'm so disgusted with this that it took me several attempts to respond to this.

This is called workplace harassment and it's painfully obvious that it's discriminatory, which violates an amendment in the Civil Rights Act of 1964.

I would have your family friend bring this to the HR immediately. He may not be the only person receiving these deplorable letter's.
Also, victims of harassment aren't always the person being harassed, victims can be other people who witness the act itself.

My heart goes out to you and your friend. Please keep us posted on the outcome.

GusBob

(7,286 posts)
37. I have lived all over. Wisconsin bigots are the worst
Sat Jun 15, 2019, 07:26 PM
Jun 2019

Everyone here knocks the South.

FUCKING WISCONSIN HAS THE WORST RACIST PEOPLE IN THE USA!

Know why?

Because racism comes from ignorance and cheeseheads are fucking stupid

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