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Thu Jun 13, 2019, 01:26 PM

Who are the Dem Reps that DON'T want Impeachment?

I keep reading here that only a minority of the Democratic caucus wants Impeachment, that it's not a sure thing, that Pelosi won't allow a vote until it's sure to pass.

But WHO? Have any Democratic Congresspersons announced opposition to it? Made a public statement opposing it or expressing skepticism? Are these just inside-the-beltway whispers?

I haven't heard of any, and my Congresswoman, Pramila Jayapal, would vote for it in a heartbeat.

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Reply Who are the Dem Reps that DON'T want Impeachment? (Original post)
maxsolomon Jun 2019 OP
Dennis Donovan Jun 2019 #1
maxsolomon Jun 2019 #2
Cetacea Jun 2019 #3
The empressof all Jun 2019 #4
montanacowboy Jun 2019 #5
Proud Liberal Dem Jun 2019 #6
StarfishSaver Jun 2019 #8
NewJeffCT Jun 2019 #7
stillcool Jun 2019 #9
maxsolomon Jun 2019 #10
stillcool Jun 2019 #11
Nevermypresident Jun 2019 #12
stillcool Jun 2019 #13
Nevermypresident Jun 2019 #14
stillcool Jun 2019 #15
Nevermypresident Jun 2019 #16
stillcool Jun 2019 #18
Nevermypresident Jun 2019 #20
Karadeniz Jun 2019 #17
fallout87 Jun 2019 #19

Response to maxsolomon (Original post)

Thu Jun 13, 2019, 01:33 PM

1. Bluedogs in swing districts

...that fail to realize that the Independents in their districts are watching, and taking note, that THEIR congresscritters are still on the fence about it.

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Response to Dennis Donovan (Reply #1)

Thu Jun 13, 2019, 01:39 PM

2. Yeah, that's the general consensus: Bluedogs

Have any had the courage to come out and oppose impeachment in public?

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Response to Dennis Donovan (Reply #1)

Thu Jun 13, 2019, 01:39 PM

3. Correct

We need televised hearings with real witnesses.

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Response to maxsolomon (Original post)

Thu Jun 13, 2019, 01:44 PM

4. Our Wa state reps have been too quiet

Other than Jayapal there has been a shameful lack of communication about this. I haven’t looked today but as a few days ago there was nothing on DelBene’s web site and I have yet to receive response to my email or hard copy letter.

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Response to The empressof all (Reply #4)

Thu Jun 13, 2019, 01:47 PM

5. Rick Larson

won't even answer my emails

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Response to maxsolomon (Original post)

Thu Jun 13, 2019, 01:48 PM

6. Do they need to vote to START an impeachment inquiry?

If not, then why not start the Inquiry and see if it sways any of them? If they do, they should be asked to explain why they don't support trying to get to the truth? If the Democrats in the House make a good case for voting for AOI, then what would the Blue Dogs' excuse be, exactly?

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Response to Proud Liberal Dem (Reply #6)

Thu Jun 13, 2019, 01:53 PM

8. They need to vote to start a formal inquiry

But they don't need a vote to investigate Trump. And that's what they're doing

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Response to maxsolomon (Original post)

Thu Jun 13, 2019, 01:52 PM

7. Katie Porter from California

really smart and great at questioning witnesses, but not in favor the last I checked.

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Response to maxsolomon (Original post)

Thu Jun 13, 2019, 02:20 PM

9. here you go....


https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2019/05/31/us/politics/trump-impeachment-congress-list.html
Full List: Who Supports
an Impeachment
Inquiry Against Trump?
By ALICIA PARLAPIANO, JASON KAO, EMILY COCHRANE and CATIE EDMONDSON UPDATED 11:15 A.M

62

Representatives support an impeachment inquiry

107

No, not now, or undecided

264

Awaiting response


Fifty-nine House Democrats and one House Republican now support an impeachment inquiry against President Donald J. Trump, according to a New York Times survey.

The Times is asking every representative for his or her position and will update this page with each response. Many House Democrats who do not currently support impeachment proceedings say investigations of Mr. Trump should continue.


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Response to stillcool (Reply #9)

Thu Jun 13, 2019, 02:43 PM

10. ugh, i guess they'll get around to on 11/4/20, then.

their noncooperation/slow walk strategy is working.

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Response to maxsolomon (Reply #10)

Thu Jun 13, 2019, 03:13 PM

11. In the meantime...

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/donald-trump/house-investigations-trump-his-administration-full-list-n1010131

HOUSE INVESTIGATIONS

JUDICIARY: Chairman Jerrold Nadler, D-N.Y.

Oversight of the administration's family separation policy
Former acting Attorney General Matthew Whitaker’s appointment, his involvement in the Mueller investigation, and his conversations with Trump and involvement with World Patent Marketing
Voting rights and Department of Justice actions on voter ID, census cases
Easing of sanctions on companies linked to Russian oligarch Oleg Deripaska
Trump's national emergency declaration
The president's "threats to the rule of law," covering three main areas:
Obstruction of justice, including the possibility of interference by Trump and others in a number of criminal investigations and other official proceedings, as well as the alleged cover-up of violations of the law;
Public corruption, including potential violations of the Emoluments Clause of the U.S. Constitution, conspiracy to violate federal campaign and financial reporting laws, and other criminal misuses of official positions for personal gain;
Abuses of power, including attacks on the press, the judiciary, and law enforcement agencies; misuse of the pardon power and other presidential authorities; and attempts to misuse the power of the office of the presidency.
Trump's interference in Time Warner merger
Threats to relocate migrants to sanctuary cities
Reports that the president said he would pardon acting Department of Homeland Security Secretary Kevin McAleenan if he illegally closed the southern border to migrants
Firings of senior leadership at DHS
The administration's decision to stop defending the Affordable Care Act in court


OVERSIGHT AND REFORM: Chairman Elijah Cummings, D-Md.

Oversight of the Trump administration’s family separation policy
Acting Attorney General Matthew Whitaker's involvement with World Patent Marketing
Reports that the Citizenship and Immigration Services Ombudsman was failing failing to carry out statutory duties to help those applying for legal immigration programs
White House security clearances
Inclusion of a citizenship question on the 2020 census
Easing of sanctions on companies linked to Russian oligarch Oleg Deripaska
Delayed back pay for federal workers impacted by the government shutdown
Michael Cohen hush-money payments
Education Secretary Betsy DeVos' efforts to replace her agency's acting inspector general
Transfer of nuclear technology to Saudi Arabia
Child separation actions at DOJ, DHS and Health and Human Services
Communications between Russian President Vladimir Putin and Trump
Michael Cohen's claims that Trump was improperly inflating financial statements
Interior Secretary David Bernhardt's schedules
Trump's threats to relocate migrants to sanctuary cities
Use of private email accounts by Jared Kushner, Ivanka Trump and other White House officials, and use of messaging apps like WhatsApp
Gag orders on White House staff
Title X gag rule regulatory review process
Potential lobbying conflicts of interest involving Environmental Protection Agency head Andrew Wheeler
Interior Department's handling of FOIA requests
Abandoning plan to move FBI HQ building from Washington to suburban location
Firings of senior leadership at DHS
Trump Administration’s response to hurricanes in Puerto Rico and U.S. Virgin Islands
Trump Administration’s decision to stop defending ACA


INTELLIGENCE: Chairman Adam Schiff, D-Calif.

Russia investigation, including the scope and scale of the Russian government's operations to influence the U.S. political process, and the U.S. government's response, the extent of any links and/or coordination between the Russian government, or related foreign actors, and individuals associated with Trump's campaign, transition, administration or business interests, whether any foreign actor has sought to compromise or holds leverage, financial or otherwise, over Trump, his family, his business, or his associates; whether Trump, his family, or his associates are or were at any time at heightened risk of, or vulnerable to, foreign exploitation; and whether any actors — foreign or domestic — sought or are seeking to impede, obstruct, and/or mislead authorized investigations into these matters
Whether lawyers for Trump and his family obstructed committee's Russia probe
Trump's personal finances, including loans from Deutsche Bank
Use of intelligence to justify building a wall at the southern border
Easing of sanctions on companies linked to Russian oligarch Oleg Deripaska
Communications between Putin and Trump


WAYS AND MEANS: Chairman Richard Neal, D-Mass.

Easing of sanctions on companies linked to Russian oligarch Oleg Deripaska
Trump administration's use of user fees generated by the Affordable Care Act
Rule on short-term insurance plans
Trump administration’s decision to stop defending ACA
The president's personal and business tax returns


ENERGY & COMMERCE: Chairman Frank Pallone, D-N.J.

Short-term insurance plans
How the administration is spending user fees generated by the ACA
How HHS is caring for children impacted by the Trump family separation policy
EPA clean air rollbacks
EPA political appointees blocking release of a chemical study
EPA rollback of policies that reduce greenhouse gas emissions to address climate change
EPA political appointee steering litigation to benefit former client
EPA Officials ties to Utility Air Regulator Group
Trump Administration’s decision to stop defending ACA


FOREIGN AFFAIRS: Chairman Eliot Engel, D-N.Y.

Communications between Putin and Trump
Trump administration's failure to produce Russian sanctions report


FINANCIAL SERVICES: Chairwoman Maxine Waters, D-Calif.

Easing of sanctions on companies linked to Russian oligarch Oleg Deripaska
Trump's personal finances, including loans from Deutsche Bank
Trump administration's failure to produce Russian sanctions report
Reported ransom demand from North Korean government related to Otto Warmbier


HOMELAND SECURITY: Chairman Bennie Thompson, D-Miss.

Easing of sanctions on companies linked to Russian oligarch Oleg Deripaska
Administration's border security policies
Investigation into Trump threats to relocate migrants to sanctuary cities
HUD disbursement of Puerto Rico disaster relief funds
Firings of senior leadership at DHS
Reports of ICE tracking Trump protesters


NATURAL RESOURCES: Chairman Raul Grijalva, D-Ariz.

HUD disbursement of Puerto Rico disaster relief funds
Interior Secretary David Bernhardt's schedules
Agriculture/Interior Department decisions to further construction of a copper sulfite mine in Minnesota


VETERANS' AFFAIRS: Chairman Mark Takano, D-Calif.

Travel expenses of a political appointee in the Department of Veterans Affairs
Potential influence of several Mar-a-Lago members on VA decisions


EDUCATION AND LABOR: Chairman Bobby Scott, D-Va.

DeVos's efforts to replace the acting inspector general
Administration's decision to rescind Obama-era guidance on school discipline
Trump administration’s use of user fees generated by the Affordable Care Act
Trump administration’s decision to stop defending ACA


TRANSPORTATION AND INFRASTRUCTURE: Chairman Peter DeFazio, D-Ore.

Trump Hotel lease of Old Post Office building
Abandoning plan to move FBI headquarters from Washington to suburban location

APPROPRIATIONS: Chairwoman Nita Lowey, D-N.Y.

Use of Pentagon funds for border wall
National emergency declaration and border wall funds
BUDGET: Chairman John Yarmuth, D-Ky.
National emergency declaration and border wall funds

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Response to stillcool (Reply #11)

Thu Jun 13, 2019, 03:55 PM

12. In ADDITION to this great list, it would be most helpful to see the CURRENT status of each

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investigation.

For ex.:


- Received all documents requested/subpoened; requested or subpoened witness(es) have or will appear before Committee and answer questions

- Stalled - requested or subpoened documents not submitted /requested or subpoened witness(es) not cooperating; no punitive action taken; no current "negotiations"

- Documents /Witness(es) refuse to comply with document requests/subpoenas; still "negotiating"; no punitive action taken

- Documents requested or subpoened not submitted/Witness(es) refuse to comply with subpoenas, held in contempt



Thank you (or anyone else for that matter) in advance. Again, let's look at the results so far.

Disclosure: I have not been posting this list. If I did, I would have the current status of each investigation in order to given a more accurate picture of the state of play.

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Response to Nevermypresident (Reply #12)

Thu Jun 13, 2019, 04:03 PM

13. Gathering information...

or investigating is not something I would expect to be made public. What would be the point? How are you going to get information out of someone, if you've exposed them to the public? Do they even share information from one committee to another?

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Response to stillcool (Reply #13)

Thu Jun 13, 2019, 04:34 PM

14. Document/Witness requests or subpoenas are most certainly public.

For instance, from your list, take the House Oversight committee investigations into White House Security Clearances and the 2020 Census Inclusion of Citizenship Question.

Apr 2, 2019 Press Release
Washington, D.C. (Apr. 2, 2019)—"Today, the Committee on Oversight and Reform voted to authorize Chairman Elijah E. Cummings to issue a subpoena for testimony to President Trump’s former White House Personnel Security Director and three additional subpoenas relating to the Trump Administration’s secret efforts to add a citizenship question to the 2020 Census. One Republican Committee Member voted in favor of the census-related subpoenas.

Cummings has now served all four subpoenas.

On four occasions—January 23, 2019, February 11, 2019, March 1, 2019, and March 18, 2019—the Committee requested a voluntary interview with Mr. Kline. Mr. Kline never responded, and the White House refused to make him available."
https://oversight.house.gov/news/press-releases/committee-approves-subpoenas-in-security-clearance-and-census-investigations


...AND this, for example:


Washington, D.C. (Apr. 27, 2019)—"Today, Rep. Elijah E. Cummings, the Chairman of the Committee on Oversight and Reform, sent a letter to former White House Personnel Security Director Carl Kline scheduling a transcribed interview for this coming Wednesday as part of the Committee’s investigation into White House security clearances. Kline failed to show up last week for a deposition pursuant to a subpoena issued by the Committee."
https://oversight.house.gov/news/press-releases/cummings-schedules-interview-with-white-house-security-director


Google is your friend!

(The House Intelligence Committee's investigation status details may be the exception to rule given they are dealing with classifed info and national security issues.) However, you can still find open source information re complying with requests/subpoenas, etc.

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Response to Nevermypresident (Reply #14)

Thu Jun 13, 2019, 06:37 PM

15. Yes, Google is my freind..

god that is an insulting dig, isn't it? But I wasn't looking for a blow by blow of where the different committee's were in their processes. If I were...I would have googled it! Thanks for the info though. Always welcome.

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Response to stillcool (Reply #15)

Thu Jun 13, 2019, 08:51 PM

16. Sorry, I didn't mean it as an insult...my friends and I use that phrase amongst ourselves. LOL

I apologize.

I wasn't necessarily looking for a blow by blow, but where all the investigations stand currently. (I was just giving examples indicating most of the status is open sourced.)

Without researching every one (which is why I never posted the list-LOL), I can guess where quite a few of them stand today.

Stonewalling, stonewalling, subpoenas, negotiations, court, appeals court, delay, delay, delay...with no consequences. Except for the recent contempt charges for a very few. For that matter, what's going to happen with the 2/3 contempt charges. I'm not waiting with baited breath for any real consequences. But this is speculation on my part, instead of researching the facts.

I assume you can see where I'm going here. IMO, we are getting few results based on actions taken to date. (But the list itself is impressive!)




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Response to Nevermypresident (Reply #16)

Fri Jun 14, 2019, 12:02 AM

18. thank you

telltale signs of being prickly, and easily put-off mean its time for me to take a break. Peace

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Response to stillcool (Reply #18)

Fri Jun 14, 2019, 08:35 AM

20. I don't think you were prickly at all! When I went back and read my post, I can see

where it came off as sarcastic although that wasn't my intent.

Please don't take a break because of me!

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Response to stillcool (Reply #11)

Thu Jun 13, 2019, 10:52 PM

17. Very helpful. Thank you!

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Response to stillcool (Reply #11)

Fri Jun 14, 2019, 12:07 AM

19. Yeah, let us know when any of that

 

makes a difference.

In the meantime, the orange one is ruining our country .

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