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kentuck

(111,079 posts)
Fri May 31, 2019, 10:30 AM May 2019

One argument for patience

Democrats are impatient. They want to remove the criminal from the White House as soon as possible. Many are ready to impeach right now.

However, others - including Speaker Pelosi - are saying this is not the time.

There will come a time, perhaps sooner than we think. If the House is successful in getting any witnesses before them, they will likely receive new information that will shed new light on the criminal activities of Donald Trump and his criminal organization.

If the House continues to interview witnesses, it is just a matter of time until someone drops a bombshell. When that happens, the floodgates will be open. A majority of Democrats will vote for impeachment.

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One argument for patience (Original Post) kentuck May 2019 OP
Bullshit. We have been patient. We have quietly waited for two years for the special notdarkyet May 2019 #1
A majority does not agree with you at this time. kentuck May 2019 #2
Good. Yes, impeachment is a fantasy at this stage as the votes are not there. No point emmaverybo May 2019 #3
He won't be removed. But you could remove our hose majority and Demsrule86 May 2019 #4
I think the opposite will happen. People will be called to testify about #45's Maraya1969 May 2019 #6
"Take Door #3 Man!" kentuck May 2019 #8
There is plenty out there now and it doesn't matter...You have to face fact...public opinion will Demsrule86 May 2019 #15
Yep - timing is everything. We need to remember most Americans Claritie Pixie May 2019 #5
This I agree with. Timing is everything. A relentless drumbeat backed by a parade of visual Maru Kitteh May 2019 #11
"If the House continues to interview witnesses" -- WHAT witnesses ? They're refusing to testify.Plus OnDoutside May 2019 #7
Then they will have to try and expedite it thru the Courts.... kentuck May 2019 #9
Excellent points Trumpocalypse May 2019 #10
if they cant get witnesses, they cant hold hearings. mopinko May 2019 #12
Their only option, in that event, is to charge each witness with contempt of Congress.... kentuck May 2019 #14
I can hear this from you because Bettie May 2019 #13
Impeachment Inquiries MUST START NOW! n/t Liberal In Texas May 2019 #16
+1 and, we could also get a bombshell from the financial records and taxes. ooky May 2019 #17

notdarkyet

(2,226 posts)
1. Bullshit. We have been patient. We have quietly waited for two years for the special
Fri May 31, 2019, 10:59 AM
May 2019

Counsel to release his evidence to impeach trump. Instead the American people get screwed again by Barr and trump to keep us from the truth.. Be patient? We have been. Now it’s time for justice.

emmaverybo

(8,144 posts)
3. Good. Yes, impeachment is a fantasy at this stage as the votes are not there. No point
Fri May 31, 2019, 11:48 AM
May 2019

coddling the fantasy, or pretending we can do anything other than support hearings moving forward, during which more will be revealed.

Maraya1969

(22,478 posts)
6. I think the opposite will happen. People will be called to testify about #45's
Fri May 31, 2019, 12:46 PM
May 2019

crimes and it will be televised. Many people will only then know the extent of what this criminal has done. Right now these people listen to their favorite bullshit right winged liars and they believe them. That will all come into the open as I see it, if impeachment hearings are held.

Remember the thread on here about conservatives being shocked that #45 did the illegal things revealed in the Mueller report; things that they had heretofore not heard of because they only listen to people who feed them lies?

Impeachment hearings will bring all this out into the open.

kentuck

(111,079 posts)
8. "Take Door #3 Man!"
Fri May 31, 2019, 01:06 PM
May 2019


I was not that surprised, when a lady at Justin Amash's town hall, admitted on camera that she had no idea there was anything "negative" about Donald Trump in the Mueller Report. She also admitted that she only listened to "conservative" news. A "news organization" should be telling people about all the useful news. I guess they must have thought the Russian attack upon our elections, with the aid and assistance of the Donald Trump campaign, was not newsworthy??

Demsrule86

(68,552 posts)
15. There is plenty out there now and it doesn't matter...You have to face fact...public opinion will
Fri May 31, 2019, 10:40 PM
May 2019

not change due to testimony which will be hard to get as Trump will fight everything...better to get him out in 20.

Claritie Pixie

(2,199 posts)
5. Yep - timing is everything. We need to remember most Americans
Fri May 31, 2019, 11:55 AM
May 2019

are not as focused on this as we are. It's the end of May, school is out, graduations, summer vacations.

Democrats must have hearings and build a case using Mueller's report as a blueprint.

Impeachment WILL happen.

Maru Kitteh

(28,339 posts)
11. This I agree with. Timing is everything. A relentless drumbeat backed by a parade of visual
Fri May 31, 2019, 01:33 PM
May 2019

public testimony, coupled with increasingly bizarre and damaging public behavior, add in the wealth of damaging material on him that will be brought forth once Democratic opposition forces are unleashed . . .

Impeachment will happen.

OnDoutside

(19,953 posts)
7. "If the House continues to interview witnesses" -- WHAT witnesses ? They're refusing to testify.Plus
Fri May 31, 2019, 01:01 PM
May 2019

House Democrats do not have full unredacted access to the Mueller Report, with the underlying evidence. And there's still no guarantee that they'll get it. Plus they still don't have access to Trump's Tax Returns.

And we are being told that there's no guarantee that Trumpland will obey the law during an impeachment.

So Yes, patience.

kentuck

(111,079 posts)
9. Then they will have to try and expedite it thru the Courts....
Fri May 31, 2019, 01:10 PM
May 2019

...just as they are doing right now with the appeals court process, regarding the financial statements of one Donald J Trump.

 

Trumpocalypse

(6,143 posts)
10. Excellent points
Fri May 31, 2019, 01:21 PM
May 2019

Mueller was limited in the scope of his investigation. The House can expand the investigations. I don’t just want to see Trump out of office. I want to see the whole family in jail.

mopinko

(70,081 posts)
12. if they cant get witnesses, they cant hold hearings.
Fri May 31, 2019, 01:43 PM
May 2019

till they can get warm bodies on camera testifying to impeachable acts, we got nuthin.

tho it would be impossible for honest people to hide that much evidence for long enough to withstand the process, w these criminals, it is not hard to imagine what they could pull off.

the last thing we need is an impeachment that hits a stonewall before it even get to the floor. we need a couple big ass cracks in the wall, first.

i am immeasurably sad that it has come to pass that too few people can/will read the book, so we are forced to make a movie, but that is, apparently, where we are.

kentuck

(111,079 posts)
14. Their only option, in that event, is to charge each witness with contempt of Congress....
Fri May 31, 2019, 01:58 PM
May 2019

..and take them to Court.

Bettie

(16,089 posts)
13. I can hear this from you because
Fri May 31, 2019, 01:45 PM
May 2019

you are not one of the "never, ever, will we reach the point of even impeachment investigations" people.

There are a lot of them here.

I can wait, but I dislike the constant nope, never attitude displayed by some.

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