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Wed May 29, 2019, 01:44 PM

Impeachment: Like Thanksgiving Dinner, it's all about TIMING.

What is the Democratic Party most worried about right now?

That the 2020 election will, because of the various election-tainting strategies perpetrated and enabled by the GOP, be close enough to steal (again) and/or precipitate sufficient violence to enable some kind of "martial law" move by President Windrip.

Democratic Party officials always knew there would be insufficient time, and insufficient leverage, between a massive takeover of ONE BRANCH of Congress and the next general election, to monkeywrench the election-tainting.

Insufficient time/leverage to deal with gerrymandering.

Insufficient time/leverage to deal with voter suppression and disenfranchisement.

Insufficient time/leverage to deal with vote hackability.

Insufficient time/leverage to deal with Russian interference.

Their ONLY viable strategy, with the Supreme Court in Russian-controlled hands, is to deliver an electoral victory large enough to relegate any kind of contest to the obvious "sour grapes" column into which it naturally falls anyway.

In other words, to deliver a MASSIVE electoral majority to the Democratic candidate, in as many states as possible, including the states most complicit in election-tainting.

Anyone who's ever tried to put an elaborate, traditional Thanksgiving meal on the table all at once, at a specific time on Thanksgiving Day, knows about timing.

Think about a Thanksgiving dinner for a moment: Multiple dishes. Multiple TYPES of dishes. Variable cooking times, variable cooking methods. A large array of ingredients, many of which are not part of the day-to-day meal preparation routine. For the dinner to be successful, hot stuff needs to land on the table still hot. Cold stuff cold. Early stuff- carrot sticks, appetizers, whatever- shouldn't destroy the appetite for the main course. There needs to be options- for vegetarians, for gluten-avoiders, etc.

It's not just "Hurry up and carve the turkey!!"

Even the turkey itself, needs lengthy preparation- to brine or not to brine? Deep-fry, or roast? Stuff or unstuffed? Can you keep the white meat moist while ensuring the dark meat is cooked through safely? Even serving required multiple presentations and formats: Giblets in the gravy for the giblet-gravy eaters, giblet-free gravy for those who can't stand giblets. White meat and dark meat. Are there enough drumsticks to go around? How do you share them creatively among more than two drumstick aficionados?

(This, by the way, is why Thanksgiving Dinner when our household hosts it consists of reservations to a really nice Thanksgiving Dinner buffet at a very warm and inviting local hotel. They are EXPERTS. With lots of practice. I'm not.)

To deliver that massive electoral victory on November 3rd, 2020, Speaker Pelosi and the Democratic Party leadership are already doing the ingredient prep and planning the cooking of the most complicated and consequential "Thanksgiving dinner" political event ever in my lifetime.

If you've ever walked into the kitchen of a competent Thanksgiving Dinner chef anytime from several days prior to five minutes before the actual sit-down-and-eat time, you might recoil in horror. What? You haven't even STARTED mixing the dressing? Aren't you going to brine the bird? Are those whole pumpkins table decorations or future pies? Where are the cranberries? Haven't the rolls even gone into the oven yet? Isn't the red wine open to breathe? WTF??

I suspect Speaker Pelosi has delivered more than a few Thanksgiving dinners to the table. Both literally and in the political metaphor sense.

Me, I'm staying out of the kitchen.

But watching what's going in there... the shopping bags full of ingredients, the big ol' roasting pan coming up from the cellar, the tablecloth being transferred from the washer to the dryer...

I'm planning on showing up for dinner.

And I suspect it'll be a dilly.


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Reply Impeachment: Like Thanksgiving Dinner, it's all about TIMING. (Original post)
TygrBright May 2019 OP
Fiendish Thingy May 2019 #1
TygrBright May 2019 #2
JHB May 2019 #3
TygrBright May 2019 #4
Hekate May 2019 #5

Response to TygrBright (Original post)

Wed May 29, 2019, 02:58 PM

1. The recipe still calls for impeachment

Failure to open an impeachment inquiry, at the very minimum, implies that Congress, acting in its role as a coequal branch of government, tacitly approves of Trumpís conduct. No need to rush articles to a floor vote; just relentless, unyielding investigations and hearings, slowly roasting Trump and his minions to a juicy perfection.

This will put the GOP on the spot to declare whether they support Trumpís conduct, and may strengthen Weld, Amash, and any others who may oppose Trump in the primaries or run as third party.

Only then will the meal be ready to serve on November 3, 2020.

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Response to Fiendish Thingy (Reply #1)

Wed May 29, 2019, 03:10 PM

2. The timing about WHEN to open the inquiry...

...so that the maximum value from fresh, effective and revolting revelations may affect the voting on November 3rd, is something I'd not be willing to guess at.

But I'm sure there are people who have a much better notion of the strategic moment, and they're in the proper positions to make the decision.

Nowdays it's all about the news cycle.


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Response to TygrBright (Original post)

Wed May 29, 2019, 03:17 PM

3. That analogy assumes your cooking is not being actively sabotaged...

It doesn't exactly work the same way when there are other people stealing ingredients, cutting off power and gas, slashing tires and putting sugar in the gas tank when you run to the store.

How smooth is that hotel's Thanksgiving dinner when it's competing against a mob-owned hotel out to wreck their dinner service? It can be done, but it is a running fight.

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Response to JHB (Reply #3)

Wed May 29, 2019, 03:22 PM

4. Absolutely!

And I'm fairly sure TPTB in the Democratic Party are factoring that sabotage into their working plans.

With multiple contingencies.

Back when I was figuring out the Thanksgiving dinner thing I always had contingency plans for the cranberry sauce not jelling, the gravy growing lumps, the rolls overbrowning, the turkey cooking unevenly in the gas oven, etc.

The GOPpies have always been better at sabotage, but we have experience dealing with it, too.


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Response to TygrBright (Original post)

Wed May 29, 2019, 03:30 PM

5. You've Brightened my day and made me smile...

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