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ck4829

(35,045 posts)
Tue May 7, 2019, 07:38 AM May 2019

I'm sorry, but the only way to stop authoritarianism is through disobedience

Voting won't fix this mess, it's that bad, this will require other actions by the people.

It will require the usage of direct action and disobedience. And it needs get to the point where today's authoritarians give up, future potential authoritarians will feel uneasy about trying it, and people resisting other authoritarian regimes in places like Russia, Brazil, or Hungary feel inspiration and solidarity from what we do.

Now I understand lots of people are afraid of that... that they don't want to be seen as troublemakers, they are afraid of what it means when it comes to employment, that they will run afoul of that family member they only meet at Holidays who talks about waiting "day when all the Democrats, queers, and Muslims get executed", and so on. It's time to erase that fear; it's not just Trump's authoritarianism that needs to be stopped, but it needs to be destroyed in general. Time to stand up.

Fortunately, our reality is not black and white, and this applies to obedience vs disobedience to authoritarianism as well, there is nuance. There are things people already do and are willing to learn more every day, let's all learn and apply this, it's time to shut that whole authoritarian thing down.

Things other than obedience:

Reluctant and slow compliance
-Pay your taxes, if we get Trumpcare then medical bills as slowly as possible

Nonobedience in absence of direct supervision
-When the authoritarian says "Jump", you ask "How high? In centimeters?"

Popular nonobedience
-Make it into a campaign, "Not Paying" if Trumpcare makes medical bills higher and deceases access to service

Disguised disobedience
-Pay your taxes with pennies or one dollar bills

Refusal of an assemblage or meeting to disperse

Sitdown
-Civil rights movement of the past did this one

Noncooperation with conscription and deportation
-Support counter-recruitment.
-Don't sign up for Operation Iranian Liberation

Hiding, escape, and false identities
-My name? It's... Jacob Wohl.

Civil disobedience of "illegitimate" laws

https://nvdatabase.swarthmore.edu/browse_methods

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I'm sorry, but the only way to stop authoritarianism is through disobedience (Original Post) ck4829 May 2019 OP
Nonsense. You'll know your vote is worthless Hortensis May 2019 #1

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
1. Nonsense. You'll know your vote is worthless
Tue May 7, 2019, 07:44 AM
May 2019

when you’re too scared to agitate for insurrection on social media.

Lol. This reminds me of a group of Texans I once saw supposedly beginning planning armed insurrection/secession on CSPAN (!). Including discussing the need to gun down any authorities who opposed them. The group included an elected official, I think a congressman but state or federal I couldn’t say. Then they finished their time slot and left.

but you’re as safe as they were.

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