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Mattis Ignored Orders from Trump
April 29, 2019 at 6:51 pm EDT By Taegan Goddard 29 Comments
https://politicalwire.com/2019/04/29/mattis-ignored-orders-from-trump/
"SNIP.....
Former Defense Secretary James Mattis declined to carry out orders from President Trump or tried to limit his options in attempts to prevent tensions with North Korea, Iran and Syria from escalating, the New Yorker reports.
Said one former national security official: The president thinks out loud. Do you treat it like an order? Or do you treat it as part of a longer conversation? We treated it as part of a longer conversation.
The official added: We prevented a lot of bad things from happening.
.....SNIP"
Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin
(108,485 posts)JHB
(37,166 posts)...it's the very thing.
sharedvalues
(6,916 posts)If Mattis cared about the country so much hed have gone public by now, talking on CNN about what he did and heard.
Hes just helping in the coverup by staying silent.
BigmanPigman
(51,673 posts)Roy Rolling
(6,943 posts)All the closet moral people who protected us from some Trumpian mistake, but none of them willing to prevent future mistakes by remaining silent.
They all took the paycheck, kept their mouths shut, and did little (that we know of) to protect the American people they swore an oath to protect.
Then again, they were defective enough to accept a Trump administration job in the first place. Expecting extraordinary courage and clarity would be a laughable expectation.
mountain grammy
(26,676 posts)Trenzalore
(2,331 posts)It is a catch 22.
Right now there are probably current leadership doing similar things.
Trump has pretty much fired his way through Homeland Security to get to people that were not approved by the Senate who will not question his orders. I don't believe he has gotten to that point with the Defense Dept. When he does we are in deep shit. Going public that you were not following orders would accelerate that process.
I believe all these folks are making an all in bet that in 2020 the election will take care of him. I hope they are right.
uponit7771
(90,371 posts)... being brave.
Honeycombe8
(37,648 posts)by NOT doing some things you all don't know about! Trust me."
UTUSN
(70,793 posts)in the History department. Am too old, will prolly only get to see the beginning of it.
applegrove
(118,926 posts)WWII the rest of his life. Not so much Hitler. More Barbara Tuchman books and the British. Much of that obsession after the fact is dealing with emotion too I think. We are not that far from people who sat around a fire and told dramatic stories of ancestors and amazing feats of day.
MartyTheGreek
(571 posts)I had a hunch that orders were either directly or indirectly were going on but not acted on by the more level heads in the White House. And, this was said in the MSM while the three retired Generals were in the WH.
Seems that we are being socialized for a bigger reveal with stuff like this leaking out and confirms the other crazy Trump orders that were not carried out, or yet revealed. Maybe we don't know how close we got to ugly or conflict breaking out.
Goes to show Trump wanted a bigger distraction during the Mueller investigation, but who's really in-charge now is the question?
Laura PourMeADrink
(42,770 posts)they had a secret plan NOT to listen to any crazy orders from Nixon?