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KentuckyWoman

(6,700 posts)
Mon Apr 29, 2019, 04:32 PM Apr 2019

I had 2 abortions after 20 weeks

1976 and 1979.

I was married, wanted children and things went horribly wrong. It was an agonizing decision. I waited long enough that in the end it was life and death for me. No facilities near my home were licensed. We had to travel to the other end of the state... so far from home it required an overnight. I was a the mercy of strangers rather than the doctor I knew.

Republicans believe I deserve jail and the doctor who performed a life saving medical procedure to save my life before that fetus was fully dead on its own deserves to be tried as a baby murderer.

[Redacted] is up there claiming women and doctors are practically giggling with glee over grabbing a baby and murdering it. [Redacted] is either a mentally ill person with hallucinations, or a fucking ass lying piece of shit that needs his face slapped into next century.

We are losing ground. I don't know what we do in the fight for a woman's right to obtain basic medical care. In the meantime there are charities who help women travel to where they must to obtain care. Please support them. Add to the list.

https://wrrap.org/
http://womensmedicalfund.org/
https://prochoice.org/

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I had 2 abortions after 20 weeks (Original Post) KentuckyWoman Apr 2019 OP
My heart breaks for women who've experienced this and had to see/read/hear the words of Trump hlthe2b Apr 2019 #1
Ditto. iluvtennis Apr 2019 #22
K&R smirkymonkey Apr 2019 #2
He's a gaslighter with NPD. And he's escalating. CousinIT Apr 2019 #3
You need to repost that when more people will see it, BigmanPigman Apr 2019 #4
I sent a version of it TO Maddow on Twitter! CousinIT Apr 2019 #5
I heard that his 10,000th lie was coming soon BigmanPigman Apr 2019 #7
Isn't there a cake with candles for #10,000? CaptYossarian Apr 2019 #41
Are you kidding... BigmanPigman Apr 2019 #42
It would be yellow cake--the color of Russian urine CaptYossarian Apr 2019 #43
What makes you say that? Hekate Apr 2019 #17
Un indicted co conspirator 1 does this crap on purpose. Tries to be outrageous...tries to rile up. UniteFightBack Apr 2019 #6
Exactly. Yes! Omarosa (she's terrible, but knows things) said he has a list ready to go of CharleyDog Apr 2019 #14
Was "Turnip" deliberate or did your device "help" you? rzemanfl Apr 2019 #29
Trump has hurt a lot of raw, innocent nerves. One can't be this callous without trying. Karadeniz Apr 2019 #8
Don't believe he tries, fully believe it comes naturally to him. SammyWinstonJack Apr 2019 #37
Jenna Bush had a tubal pregnancy Maggiemayhem Apr 2019 #38
why do people think this is an easy decision?? samnsara Apr 2019 #9
K&R alwaysinasnit Apr 2019 #10
I'm very sorry for your losses. yardwork Apr 2019 #11
... mcar Apr 2019 #12
How is it that I have never heard of these organizations? murielm99 Apr 2019 #13
A niece of mine decided against abortion twice, even though her children were sadly doomed Goodheart Apr 2019 #15
It happens KentuckyWoman Apr 2019 #23
Thank you for sharing this backtoblue Apr 2019 #16
K & R SunSeeker Apr 2019 #18
I am so sorry for your pain and loss. Trump is a sadistic SOB who cares nothing... Hekate Apr 2019 #19
K&R Solly Mack Apr 2019 #20
I'd stake my life that the idiot has funded many an abortion for his many mistresses. llmart Apr 2019 #21
THIS! bluestarone Apr 2019 #26
Bimbo, bimbo marieo1 Apr 2019 #24
It says a lot about his attitude towards his own children Retrograde Apr 2019 #33
Gotta wash socks. BBL. n/t rzemanfl Apr 2019 #34
I'm so sorry, barbtries Apr 2019 #25
I'm so sorry, KW. democrank Apr 2019 #27
maybe his presidency should be redacted from history books. But then demigoddess Apr 2019 #28
this issue should never be political AlexSFCA Apr 2019 #30
Response to This issue should never be political marieo1 Apr 2019 #32
Trump is both. area51 Apr 2019 #31
"But...but...her emails!" JohnZSmith Apr 2019 #35
K&R uppityperson Apr 2019 #36
or maybe [redacted] is both? The Mouth Apr 2019 #39
All women have a right to reproductive privacy. roamer65 Apr 2019 #40

hlthe2b

(102,534 posts)
1. My heart breaks for women who've experienced this and had to see/read/hear the words of Trump
Mon Apr 29, 2019, 04:34 PM
Apr 2019

last weekend. He is beyond a cruel, ignorant yet calculating, obnoxious man.

BigmanPigman

(51,660 posts)
7. I heard that his 10,000th lie was coming soon
Mon Apr 29, 2019, 05:01 PM
Apr 2019

last Fri but never heard about it since. It should be an interesting fact that the media usually likes to cover.

CaptYossarian

(6,448 posts)
41. Isn't there a cake with candles for #10,000?
Tue Apr 30, 2019, 02:31 PM
Apr 2019

I picture Kellyanne or Sarah pushing it on a cart to his desk.

In sports, they would stop the game and hand him the ball.

BigmanPigman

(51,660 posts)
42. Are you kidding...
Tue Apr 30, 2019, 05:02 PM
Apr 2019

If there had been a cake he would have eaten the whole thing before they had a chance to put candles in it.

CaptYossarian

(6,448 posts)
43. It would be yellow cake--the color of Russian urine
Tue Apr 30, 2019, 05:42 PM
Apr 2019

to bring a rare smile to the demented one's fugly face.

 

UniteFightBack

(8,231 posts)
6. Un indicted co conspirator 1 does this crap on purpose. Tries to be outrageous...tries to rile up.
Mon Apr 29, 2019, 04:49 PM
Apr 2019


He's becoming irrelevant.

CharleyDog

(759 posts)
14. Exactly. Yes! Omarosa (she's terrible, but knows things) said he has a list ready to go of
Mon Apr 29, 2019, 05:53 PM
Apr 2019
A LIST READY-TO-GO of outrageous topics to say when the press is against him on most of his acts/policies/consequences.

Let's guess his list of ready-to-go lies?

women tied up in the back seat with tape on their mouths

mothers and doctors killing babies

** (fan favorites) refugees committing acts of terrorism/prayer rugs/fake families/carrying drugs/diseases

Trump is a victim of lying Democrats/investigators/FBI guys/Intelligence guys/reporters/media/the press/Twitter/Google/Obama/Hillary/spying

Turnip is young/healthy/stable/a genius/the smartest/the best negotiator/the best businessman/has big hands/never paid hush money with that woman/never tried to fire Mueller/never conspired anything ever

Maggiemayhem

(811 posts)
38. Jenna Bush had a tubal pregnancy
Tue Apr 30, 2019, 08:49 AM
Apr 2019

This is not a viable pregnancy and had to be terminated to avoid internal bleeding. Would these nuts just pray and then when she eventually died say it was Gods will? I really have grown to hate these one issue morons who have to be in everyone’s personal business.

samnsara

(17,660 posts)
9. why do people think this is an easy decision??
Mon Apr 29, 2019, 05:06 PM
Apr 2019

...back alley abortions will not be done with caution, safety or compassion.

Goodheart

(5,352 posts)
15. A niece of mine decided against abortion twice, even though her children were sadly doomed
Mon Apr 29, 2019, 06:00 PM
Apr 2019

to very short lives of pain. And when I say "short" I mean short: hours. Both her children were afflicted with Meckel Gruber syndrome, something she found out about 4-5 months in in both cases. Don't get me wrong... I'm not here to label her a hero or anything as opposed to yourself. She did what her conscience and her religion compelled her to do. Good for her. But, sheesh, what a horror it must be to carry a fetus to term when you know there's no future for the child except almost immediate death. It was not a happy period. How on Earth could anybody criminalize a would-be mother if she had decided the opposite? And fuck trump for demeaning both your pain and your decision.

KentuckyWoman

(6,700 posts)
23. It happens
Mon Apr 29, 2019, 06:39 PM
Apr 2019

I understood your post and I genuinely thank you for adding that each woman makes her own choice on her own terms.

It doesn't matter why. It doesn't matter if the decision is a week in or at 39 weeks. The only person who should have any say is the woman who is pregnant. Every situation is unique, every pregnancy unique. No one should have to justify anything to anyone when it comes to this. Certainly not [Redacted].

Hekate

(91,013 posts)
19. I am so sorry for your pain and loss. Trump is a sadistic SOB who cares nothing...
Mon Apr 29, 2019, 06:19 PM
Apr 2019

...for the suffering of others.

llmart

(15,567 posts)
21. I'd stake my life that the idiot has funded many an abortion for his many mistresses.
Mon Apr 29, 2019, 06:26 PM
Apr 2019

One day the truth will come out. He says this stuff to get media attention and rile up his base.

How any woman could vote for him is beyond me.

marieo1

(1,402 posts)
24. Bimbo, bimbo
Mon Apr 29, 2019, 06:42 PM
Apr 2019

I wonder, over the years, how many women DJT has paid to have an abortion!!!!!! Obviously, he has no respect for marriage, women or babies. DJT is acting so 'holier than thou' but we all know what a scumbag he really is. He will say and do anything to get his crowd of bimbo's yelling and screaming.

Retrograde

(10,183 posts)
33. It says a lot about his attitude towards his own children
Mon Apr 29, 2019, 08:13 PM
Apr 2019

with the possible exception of Ivanka, I don't think he likes his own children - when he can be bothered to think about them. And even the princess seems to have started getting attention after she started getting makeovers.

barbtries

(28,821 posts)
25. I'm so sorry,
Mon Apr 29, 2019, 06:48 PM
Apr 2019

that you had to go through those tragedies and that now, Trump is using you for propaganda. so wrong.

AlexSFCA

(6,139 posts)
30. this issue should never be political
Mon Apr 29, 2019, 07:25 PM
Apr 2019

It seems that anti-choice is growing. GOP can’t win elections without being actively anti-choice. If men could get pregnant we would not even be talking about it in the slightest. This issue has everything to do with gender discrimination which should be illegal. It shouldnt be religous either. Bible does not even mention abortion but says life begins at birth, not 20 weeks of pregnancy.

marieo1

(1,402 posts)
32. Response to This issue should never be political
Mon Apr 29, 2019, 07:44 PM
Apr 2019

And, it should be between the Dr. and the patient.....period and no one else and especially not the men in the Rep party!!

area51

(11,943 posts)
31. Trump is both.
Mon Apr 29, 2019, 07:36 PM
Apr 2019
"[Redacted] is up there claiming women and doctors are practically giggling with glee over grabbing a baby and murdering it. [Redacted] is either a mentally ill person with hallucinations, or a fucking ass lying piece of shit that needs his face slapped into next century."
 

JohnZSmith

(33 posts)
35. "But...but...her emails!"
Mon Apr 29, 2019, 09:22 PM
Apr 2019

"We are losing ground. I don't know what we do in the fight for a woman's right to obtain basic medical care."

I don't know, but I vividly remember arguing and pleading with some women in 2016 to vote for the woman that Barack Obama called "THE most qualified person to run for President," when her opponent was the most obviously unqualified and unfit man ever to run for public office.

One of the "reasons" they said they would never vote for Clinton under any circumstances was that, in their words, "there is NO DIFFERENCE between Hillary Clinton and Donald Trump!"

I agreed with Barbara Bush when she said she couldn't understand why any woman would ever vote for Trump. In fact, I don't see how any woman or man could have failed to show up and vote against him!

The Mouth

(3,171 posts)
39. or maybe [redacted] is both?
Tue Apr 30, 2019, 11:59 AM
Apr 2019

"...is either a mentally ill person with hallucinations, or a fucking ass lying piece of shit that needs his face slapped into next century."

Doesn't have to be an 'either/or'

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