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Wed Apr 24, 2019, 06:31 PM

My daughter & special HS session @ Stanford Law - update!

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My daughter is a real firecracker... she has known since she was in middle school that she wants to run for Senate and possibly even President.

She made the leap into Charter school (home school) because the local HS was holding her back and now she is graduating a year early! She has already made the jump to taking classes at the local community college.

Since she took her PSAT - we've been on the radar for colleges sending stuff. This is totally different!

She received a special invitation to represent her school (Visions in Education Charter has over 2000 students from Sacramento area) at the Envision/Stanford Law in collaboration with George Mason University and Intensive Law & Trial - It's a 10 day program, taught by actual Stanford Law professors and will culminate in a mock trial in the SF Superior Court!

The cost is off-putting at $4000... but we are applying for a partial scholarship and she has set up a gofundme as well. (I told her part of campaigning is raising money...so get used to it!)
here's the link if anyone feels flush gf.me/u/sdduzx The link works if you cut/paste or just search for Laney Terrell


I'm so proud, hoping this small town girl can take on the world!

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UPDATE 4/30 - Well it hit the local news! http://southtahoenow.com/story/04/29/2019/south-lake-tahoe-teen-headed-intensive-law-and-trial-program-stanford

We should know the scholarship outcome in the next 2 weeks.

And yes, I know it is a "for profit" program, but we feel it is an amazing opportunity for her to step into some BIG shoes. Being from a rural area, this is letting her get the feel of a big university and competitive setting. She will also get 2 units of credit which is nothing to sniff at
I actually start my new job this week!!

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Reply My daughter & special HS session @ Stanford Law - update! (Original post)
FirstLight Apr 2019 OP
mobeau69 Apr 2019 #1
dlk Apr 2019 #2
lucca18 Apr 2019 #3
FirstLight Apr 2019 #4
DonaldsRump Apr 2019 #5
FirstLight Apr 2019 #6
DonaldsRump Apr 2019 #7
fatrick Apr 2019 #8
WhiskeyGrinder Apr 2019 #9
fatrick Apr 2019 #10
WhiskeyGrinder Apr 2019 #11
TheBlackAdder Apr 2019 #12
FirstLight Apr 2019 #13
Karadeniz Apr 2019 #14
babylonsister Apr 2019 #15
FM123 Apr 2019 #16
FirstLight Apr 2019 #19
FM123 Apr 2019 #28
CTyankee Apr 2019 #17
FirstLight Apr 2019 #20
CTyankee Apr 2019 #29
Horse with no Name Apr 2019 #32
FirstLight Apr 2019 #34
TheBlackAdder Apr 2019 #41
DFW Apr 2019 #44
Pepsidog Apr 2019 #18
mcar Apr 2019 #21
MLAA Apr 2019 #22
FirstLight Apr 2019 #24
Lonestarblue Apr 2019 #23
FirstLight Apr 2019 #25
NightWatcher Apr 2019 #26
FirstLight Apr 2019 #31
Phoenix61 Apr 2019 #27
FirstLight Apr 2019 #30
NewJeffCT Apr 2019 #33
FirstLight Apr 2019 #35
Justice Apr 2019 #36
FirstLight Apr 2019 #37
FirstLight Apr 2019 #38
FirstLight Apr 2019 #39
FirstLight Apr 2019 #43
sarcasmo Apr 2019 #40
FirstLight Apr 2019 #42
Crabby Appleton Apr 2019 #45
Phentex Apr 2019 #46
FirstLight Apr 2019 #47

Response to FirstLight (Original post)

Wed Apr 24, 2019, 06:35 PM

1. Maybe Aunt Becky could help too.



Congratulations to your daughter!

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Response to FirstLight (Original post)

Wed Apr 24, 2019, 06:35 PM

2. WooHoo! Congratulations!

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Response to FirstLight (Original post)

Wed Apr 24, 2019, 06:40 PM

3. Wonderful!

The very best to your daughter!

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Response to FirstLight (Original post)

Wed Apr 24, 2019, 06:41 PM

4. Thanks...! She's pretty amazing!

I just hope we can come up with the $ since I lost my job in March

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Response to FirstLight (Original post)

Wed Apr 24, 2019, 06:53 PM

5. Congrats!

Congratulations on your daughter's success. Everything you said sounds great except for three words: "George Mason University."

This is a very right wing law school and university generally: [link:https://thinkprogress.org/report-americas-top-5-most-conservative-colleges-9e64d3cad007/|.

Please make sure that there's no agenda behind this kind of program or that you're fine with it if there is. Every experience I've had with GMU Law is advancing something right-wing.

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Response to DonaldsRump (Reply #5)

Wed Apr 24, 2019, 06:57 PM

6. good to know!

Yeah, my girl is a flaming Liberal/socialist...she is planning on being the one who shakes up all those "button down" kids anyway

She's so punk rock, I know she will be fine!

she is planning on transfering to UC Berkeley with her AA, since that's where I'm from and we still have family in the area

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Response to FirstLight (Reply #6)

Wed Apr 24, 2019, 07:01 PM

7. Good for her!

My daughter is dealing with a right-wing boy in her class. His latest, no doubt spewed by his parents and Faux News, is the "total exoneration" of Trump by the Mueller Report.

I'm halfway into suggesting my daughter take a course like this or just walking away and saving her precious time since it won't make a difference with this young lad!

Best of luck for your daughter!

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Response to FirstLight (Original post)

Wed Apr 24, 2019, 07:02 PM

8. Just a friendly advice

 

These programs are non-selective and run by a for-profit entity. Perfectly fine, if youíve got the $$$ to shell out for your kid to get a good experience, but if not Iíd probably avoid. They wonít add anything to her application profile although they do line the pockets of the company that runs it and the tenured Stanford law profs that help them.

Hereís a tip; she could use her summer to do voluntary work at an immigrant rights organization ... that will give her some REAL world experience and is like GOLD when it comes to her college app. Good luck, kid sounds smart and will be a great asset to America.

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Response to FirstLight (Original post)

Wed Apr 24, 2019, 07:04 PM

9. I encourage you to really dig into whether this is worth it in the long run.

Envision is a for-profit education company that contracts with big-name universities to boost credibility.

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Response to WhiskeyGrinder (Reply #9)

Wed Apr 24, 2019, 07:07 PM

10. Yes.

 

Itís good experience if youíve got the money, but sounds like OPs not in that position. It wonít add any credibility to the kids college app which is the image that these programs like to convey. I donít believe the even contract with the colleges themselves but actually professors tenured professors who lend an air of credibility. The programs pretend to be selective where really they take anyone with a pulse (as long as the color of their money is green).

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Response to fatrick (Reply #10)

Wed Apr 24, 2019, 07:09 PM

11. Yep. Companies like this take advantage of a lot of people. It's infuriating.

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Response to FirstLight (Original post)

Wed Apr 24, 2019, 07:09 PM

12. My kids get things like that. One went to George Mason amd spent a week. It didn't mean anything.

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She got one credit for attending.

Colleges often times use it to drive applications to their school, while providing a revenue stream during the summer.

The nice thing is that it will light a fire in her and make her more serious for college. My daughter is going to Rutgers, in a science program, that turned out to be $30K a year, instead of the $60K+ that GMU was asking per year.

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Response to FirstLight (Original post)

Wed Apr 24, 2019, 07:17 PM

13. wow...I think it's still pretty impressive but thanks for the heads up

I myself went to an online university that screwed me over, I didn't think this was like that.

I don't even mind if she gets any units out of it, the experience itself is what's important. We've watched vids of kids who have gone and many of them said it was a valuable experience.

She went to a gay/straight Ally leadership thing last year...Not for units, but for fun. Downside it was at UC Merced (nowhere!) and it was just 3 days...the driving to and from nearly killed us lol

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Response to FirstLight (Original post)

Wed Apr 24, 2019, 07:45 PM

14. I'm proud of her, too! Plus, the other suggestions sound like good experience.

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Response to FirstLight (Original post)

Wed Apr 24, 2019, 07:46 PM

15. Sounds like a wonderful experience for her;

I imagine she'll learn a lot. And my very best for her future endeavors. She's on her way!

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Response to FirstLight (Original post)

Wed Apr 24, 2019, 07:54 PM

16. Congratulations on having such an amazing daughter!

We hope to hear more good news about her in the future, and perhaps we can vote for her one day!

So it's been awhile since my kids were in high school but I do remember all the discussions we had with them about these scholarly programs, they wanted to do them all, but alas, our last name was not Rockefeller.... The good news is that if this particular one is too expensive, there are others out there - some free (not easy to get into) some that provide scholarship money, and some with financial aid. Here is a partial list of some incredible (and prestigious) programs out there that don't charge a fee: Telluride Association Summer Program (TASP) at Cornell, Research Science Institute (RSI) at MIT, NASA High School Aerospace Scholars. And since she is interested in law, there are summer internships for high school students at the District Attorney's Office, Public Defender's Office, and while she is too young to be a summer associate (law school students) if she can find a small law firm that will let her volunteer there, that is a huge plus too.

There are many opportunities out there, and for a smart cookie like your daughter - she will find them!

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Response to FM123 (Reply #16)

Wed Apr 24, 2019, 08:34 PM

19. thanks...!

She has been doing research on things like this too... even thinking she should do a semester in a country where they are dealing with government issues...dangerous! But she says it's important to learn...

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Response to FirstLight (Reply #19)

Wed Apr 24, 2019, 09:23 PM

28. That is so wonderful that she is proactive like that!

It is that kind of grit & gumption that will take her very far in life. I wish her all the best from the bottom of my heart!


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Response to FirstLight (Original post)

Wed Apr 24, 2019, 07:56 PM

17. Any interest in coming East?

I'm thinking Yale cuz I live in New Haven. It's close enough to NYC so there's that attraction. And I like the Yale community and New Haven.

Also, would she consider a woman's college? My daughter benefited greatly from Mount Holyoke College in South Hadley, MA. Nice school but some young women don't like the idea.

These two schools are heavily endowed and can offer great scholarships.

I wish her and you the best. It sounds like an exciting time for your family!

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Response to CTyankee (Reply #17)

Wed Apr 24, 2019, 08:35 PM

20. She wanted to do HArvard

...did the research and it has a pretty high rate of grads who seem to be elected...
then again, staying in CA for the undergrad seems good...she might wanna go to DC for her grad school

It's a fun time for her to be thinking of these opportunities!

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Response to FirstLight (Reply #20)

Wed Apr 24, 2019, 09:55 PM

29. It's always best to aim high, I think. The school that gets her will be lucky, indeed!

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Response to FirstLight (Reply #20)

Wed Apr 24, 2019, 10:29 PM

32. The great thing about Harvard

Is that they scholarship deserving kids under a certain income.
A friend of ours took advantage of that. Definitely worth checking into.
Congrats to her.

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Response to Horse with no Name (Reply #32)

Wed Apr 24, 2019, 10:33 PM

34. good to know!

we're a little worried about the East/West thing... very different mentality here in California...and we're from a small town

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Response to FirstLight (Reply #20)

Sat Apr 27, 2019, 12:20 AM

41. The average salaries of 10yr Harvard grads was about $9K more than second place Princeton Univ.

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Going to Harvard matters in average accumulated income spanning decades.

While income slowly pyramids, the 10 year mark showed a significant income advantage over other schools.


I can't recall the data, but it was when my oldest was checking out schools. The problem was, we live in a highly competitive school district, with grade levels exceeding 900 students each--requiring two valedictorians for her class. While she was Junior Class President, and did well, there were only several slots offered to Harvard for her school's graduation class. If your daughter has a shot, she should definitely try.

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Response to TheBlackAdder (Reply #41)

Sat Apr 27, 2019, 06:25 AM

44. On the other hand, DON'T get obsessed with Harvard

My younger daughter applied, was treated shabbily by the admissions team, and was basically insulted by them. She ended up happy as a clam in college Washington, DC, then went to a so-called "second tier" law school in New York, who gave her a "diversity" scholarship, since she is German. At age 31, she became the youngest partner ever at a major international law firm based in New York (she works out of their Frankfurt office), and now makes several multiples of what I do, will probably be a multi-millionaire before age 40, juggling motherhood and her job without coming close to burning out.

Her firm's head office in NYC sends over recent grads from Harvard Law and Yale Law to do internships. She tells me they are often stuck-up, useless snobs with a lousy work ethic, poor legal work in poor English, and even worse German. They think, mistakenly, that flashing their fancy diplomas is a substitute for being good at their jobs. They are shocked to find out that it is not.

So don't think that a "name" school is a must. She'll do best where she fits in best.

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Response to FirstLight (Original post)

Wed Apr 24, 2019, 08:17 PM

18. You should be proud. But also carefully research any program that wants money to attend.

With four kids, three done college, one in college and one in medical school I learned to scrutinize every offer for attendance at programs and honor societies. Iím sure the one you are speaking of is legitimate but ask yourself if the value is worth the cost. By value I mean to her resume and personal enrichment. Be proud but cautious I guess is what I am trying to say and research everything!! Enjoy this time, your daughter sounds like a superstar.

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Response to FirstLight (Original post)

Wed Apr 24, 2019, 08:36 PM

21. Well done!

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Response to FirstLight (Original post)

Wed Apr 24, 2019, 08:40 PM

22. Just made a small contribution, wishing her a wonderful experience!

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Response to MLAA (Reply #22)

Wed Apr 24, 2019, 08:48 PM

24. thanks! :)

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Response to FirstLight (Original post)

Wed Apr 24, 2019, 08:41 PM

23. Wow, I love hearing about amazing young people like your daughter!

Congratulations on raising a fine young woman.

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Response to Lonestarblue (Reply #23)

Wed Apr 24, 2019, 08:51 PM

25. she's always been a "stand-out" kinda kid

She's got musical talent, draws, has a fucked up sense of humor (ok, that's from me lol)...she also rocks the purple hair and a nose ring! She's definitely gonna shake things up !!!

I have to say her academic preformance is all her...she's a HUGE NERD (ok ya, that's me too) and she writes like a wizard. With homeschool, I swear she's just run with it and I am just watching as she fires it up!

Super love her...I'm gonna miss my buddy when she leaves the nest

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Response to FirstLight (Original post)

Wed Apr 24, 2019, 08:53 PM

26. Bookmarking. You must be so proud.

We'll see what DU can do to the gofundme stuff.

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Response to NightWatcher (Reply #26)

Wed Apr 24, 2019, 10:23 PM

31. I know...

she's got a twitter following already...hope she will use it to the best of her ability!

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Response to FirstLight (Original post)

Wed Apr 24, 2019, 09:11 PM

27. That is amazing!

What a wonderful time to be a young woman especially one as bright and motivated as your daughter.

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Response to Phoenix61 (Reply #27)

Wed Apr 24, 2019, 10:22 PM

30. right?

she's gonna rock it!

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Response to FirstLight (Original post)

Wed Apr 24, 2019, 10:31 PM

33. Congratulations to her

good luck.

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Response to FirstLight (Original post)

Thu Apr 25, 2019, 01:04 PM

35. Kick for morning crew

😊

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Response to FirstLight (Original post)

Thu Apr 25, 2019, 01:12 PM

36. Donated! Congrats to your daughter.

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Response to Justice (Reply #36)

Thu Apr 25, 2019, 01:29 PM

37. thanks so much...

I also reached out to our local online news and they are gonna do a story on her today!

Guess it's time to make a portfolio/scrapbook for her so I can show it off when she gets elected!

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Response to FirstLight (Original post)

Thu Apr 25, 2019, 10:06 PM

38. I'll post the link for the news story when it goes up!

One of the Editors emailed me back and said it would get posted soon!




Laney and I were talking today about her brother in school, and she said "it's not like this gets handed to me...I work my ASS off to make my life better and to get where I want to go!"

God I love her

Praying that her brother finds his niche too, he's only a year behind her and has had some rough times...Thought he was gonna go all the way with baseball, but he fucked it up last year by cussing at the coach and refuses to try again. I know he will find his way, I just have to make sure he has my support too. this single momma is working overtime !

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Response to FirstLight (Original post)

Fri Apr 26, 2019, 11:37 PM

39. Her Scholarship 500 word essay is about Immigration -Please Read!

Good LUCK summing this up in 500 words!!! I think she's a great writer and will do great speeches someday... though she did only have 500 words, but she makes a punch and doesn't shy away from being passionate!
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The Fundamental Flaws of American Law; Scholarship Essay

The United States of America (USA) is a young country and one with many mistakes and successes coloring its short past. While the USA is undeniably a country founded on freedom, it falls short in protecting its most vulnerable citizens and residents. To begin to understand where the USAís legal system is lacking, we must first understand how it was formed -- starting with the Constitution of the United States. The Constitution covers the basic freedoms and rights that befall any and all residents of America, legal or not. One of the great failures of the justice system is the disregard for the rights of all immigrants from the moment they step foot on American soil.
The main weapon used against undocumented immigrants is the Immigration and Customs Enforcement (I.C.E.) program under the Department of Homeland Security (DHS). I.C.E. was formed shortly after the terror attacks of 9/11 along with the movement of the DHS up to the cabinet level. The movement of immigration issues from the Department of Labor to the DHS is indicative of a massive shift among policymakers on how we, the citizens of America, view immigration as a whole. Before 9/11, immigration was considered a workforce and economic issue and handled as such. We considered immigration as a beneficiary for the economy and a way to grow Americaís GDP. Unfortunately, after 9/11, the public opinion of immigrants massively swayed and we began to group all immigrants together as a threat, regardless of their country of origin, their ethnicity, and their backgrounds. I.C.E. was developed executively by President Bush and has since been used without the standards of due process and right to a trial, which are constitutional rights to every person in America, regardless of citizenship status.
This disregard for the human rights that befall every person in America is horrific and shameful and will reflect poorly on each and every policymaker who turns a blind eye to the abuse of power constantly and consistently shown by I.C.E. in their treatment of immigrants. I propose an abolishment of I.C.E. and the movement of their primary functions back to the Department of Labor and the Department of Commerce. If we continue to treat immigrants as a threat, as terrorists, we will continue to justify the abuse of power exemplified by I.C.E. We have already let them get away with ripping children from parents. We have let them lock people fleeing corruption away in cages. How much more will we stand? Enough is enough. More often than not, people turn away from what makes them uncomfortable, what reflects back the worst of them. The start of revolution begins with the oppressed speaking up, voicing their pain, but revolution and change can only truly take hold and succeed when and if the oppressors open their eyes to the cruelty they support, be it consciously or not.

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Response to FirstLight (Reply #39)

Sat Apr 27, 2019, 12:39 AM

43. note: I was pregnant w/her during 9/11

She's one of those kids who never knew pre September 11...
We've watched movies like Sleepless in Seattle and commented on how you could NEVER do the romantic airport scene anymore

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Response to FirstLight (Original post)

Sat Apr 27, 2019, 12:04 AM

40. People often post gofundme stories on Twitter, one more site will help your fundraising.

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Response to sarcasmo (Reply #40)

Sat Apr 27, 2019, 12:33 AM

42. Thanks...

I dont use it much, but she has one

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Response to FirstLight (Original post)

Sat Apr 27, 2019, 07:04 AM

45. Please do your due diligence on this company

Envision EMI, particularly who they are and what they do, and decide if what they offer is a good value for the cost to you. They are a for profit company that puts on seminars on all sorts of subjects to people with the cash for the experience, nothing more.

They buy mailing lists and sent solicitations for seminar attendees.

Sorry

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Response to Crabby Appleton (Reply #45)

Sat Apr 27, 2019, 10:31 AM

46. I agree here. Is this experience worth this much money?

She will do plenty of mock trials in law school. This seems like a ton of money for 10 days.

Also, I'd be cautious about putting her personal information here. If you (the OP) have friends and family to ask for help, that would be less risky.

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Response to FirstLight (Original post)

Tue Apr 30, 2019, 05:53 PM

47. Kick for the update

She made the local news...plz read update in OP

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