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Wed Apr 24, 2019, 04:00 PM

Is that what you want?????



Human value - say it isn't so!! Sounds rather marvellous, heh?

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Reply Is that what you want????? (Original post)
Soph0571 Apr 24 OP
gratuitous Apr 24 #1
barbtries Apr 24 #16
ProfessorPlum Apr 25 #24
lastlib Apr 25 #22
TNNurse Apr 24 #2
bluescribbler Apr 24 #3
TygrBright Apr 24 #4
stillcool Apr 24 #5
Soph0571 Apr 24 #8
stillcool Apr 24 #10
Volaris Apr 24 #11
patphil Apr 24 #6
Initech Apr 24 #7
OMGWTF Apr 24 #9
BeckyDem Apr 24 #12
calimary Apr 24 #13
Farmer-Rick Apr 24 #14
Takket Apr 24 #15
Caliman73 Apr 24 #17
MadDAsHell Apr 24 #18
magicarpet Apr 25 #26
warmfeet Apr 24 #19
Joe941 Apr 24 #20
Blue Owl Apr 25 #21
CaliforniaPeggy Apr 25 #23
Amishman Apr 25 #25
Luciferous Apr 25 #30
Progressive dog Apr 25 #27
niyad Apr 25 #28
CaptYossarian Apr 25 #29

Response to Soph0571 (Original post)

Wed Apr 24, 2019, 04:06 PM

1. Quick - Somebody yell "Socialism!"

We can't have nutty ideas like these running around loose.

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Response to gratuitous (Reply #1)

Wed Apr 24, 2019, 06:57 PM

16. somebody is believe me.

a friend on the phone last night, who is fairly liberal (not as much as me), said that. we can't look like we're pushing socialism!! aargh

but they love their SS and their medicare right.

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Response to barbtries (Reply #16)

Thu Apr 25, 2019, 04:53 AM

24. Tell him it's not socialism, it's civilization

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Response to gratuitous (Reply #1)

Thu Apr 25, 2019, 12:11 AM

22. SOSHULIZUMM!!

(ya gotta spell it right.)

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Response to Soph0571 (Original post)

Wed Apr 24, 2019, 04:40 PM

2. Why yes I do.

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Response to Soph0571 (Original post)

Wed Apr 24, 2019, 04:47 PM

3. That is exactly what I want.

nt

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Response to Soph0571 (Original post)

Wed Apr 24, 2019, 04:53 PM

4. I want racing skis for this slipper slope...

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Response to Soph0571 (Original post)

Wed Apr 24, 2019, 04:57 PM

5. Can I have a

living wage job, and maybe some clean water?

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Response to stillcool (Reply #5)

Wed Apr 24, 2019, 05:05 PM

8. Now now

Don't be greedy... (of course)

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Response to Soph0571 (Reply #8)

Wed Apr 24, 2019, 05:22 PM

10. that's what happens...

give me some food, and then next thing you know I'll want water to wash it down.

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Response to stillcool (Reply #10)

Wed Apr 24, 2019, 05:40 PM

11. Damn takers grumble grumble!

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Response to Soph0571 (Original post)

Wed Apr 24, 2019, 04:59 PM

6. Works for me

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Response to Soph0571 (Original post)

Wed Apr 24, 2019, 05:02 PM

7. Easy answer: YES!!!!!

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Response to Soph0571 (Original post)

Wed Apr 24, 2019, 05:20 PM

9. Forgive Puerto Rico's debt and fking apologize to them!

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Response to Soph0571 (Original post)

Wed Apr 24, 2019, 05:44 PM

12. Well done.

K&R

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Response to Soph0571 (Original post)

Wed Apr 24, 2019, 06:09 PM

13. I'm... I actually do.

Thatís the kind of society Iíd like to live in. One thatís set up to benefit the greater good.

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Response to Soph0571 (Original post)

Wed Apr 24, 2019, 06:55 PM

14. Yes.........

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Response to Soph0571 (Original post)

Wed Apr 24, 2019, 06:56 PM

15. The HORROR!!!!!!

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Response to Soph0571 (Original post)

Wed Apr 24, 2019, 07:04 PM

17. People think that without a profit motive, people become lazy.

The reality is that there are people who for whatever reason, are not competitive or driven by challenge. There will always be those people who are not driven to produce. I predict that the vast majority of people would continue to challenge themselves to have some kind of impact in the world, through creative means, or by inventing or building something regardless of whether it made them wealthy. The idea that people only do things because of money has been debunked over and over. Yes, there are people who are motivated by money and power, and greed. However, most people are driven by having their life mean something. We work for money because money buys food, pays for our housing, buys us things we need and some we want.

My wife and I think about what we would do if we won the Lottery, a few million dollars or even the big one. None of that fantasizing EVER includes doing nothing, being lazy on the couch. Mostly it is around starting organizations to help children in the community or continuing in school to finish our degrees and licenses to practice therapy or start an agency. We want to work for more than just having enough to eat or to pay off our student debt and mortgage, but those things are priority right now and keep us in the jobs we are struggling at.

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Response to Soph0571 (Original post)

Wed Apr 24, 2019, 07:20 PM

18. What I don't understand is why we gave the loans in the first place.

If the loans are so overwhelming that they practically bankrupt people, why even issue them to begin with?

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Response to MadDAsHell (Reply #18)

Thu Apr 25, 2019, 06:55 AM

26. Because by way of litigation you can take every worldly asset they own and then force .....

.... them into bankuptcy. Vulture capitalism at its very finest.

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Response to Soph0571 (Original post)

Wed Apr 24, 2019, 07:26 PM

19. Count me in.

We humans have the power to destroy many life forms. We also have the power to preserve those life forms.

All life has value

I know the direction I would like to go.

The clock is ticking though, and we need to take action very soon.

Human life has value, all life has value.

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Response to Soph0571 (Original post)

Wed Apr 24, 2019, 07:28 PM

20. The sooner we get socialism the better!

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Response to Soph0571 (Original post)

Thu Apr 25, 2019, 12:03 AM

21. Somewhere a luxury yacht owner is weeping

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Response to Blue Owl (Reply #21)

Thu Apr 25, 2019, 12:27 AM

23. YES! Highly appropriate, I think. n/t

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Response to Soph0571 (Original post)

Thu Apr 25, 2019, 05:19 AM

25. No, reorganizing the economy sounds too much like a planned economy

Which has never worked.

I am not a socialist, I want capitalism with limits on corporate greed. I do not want the government to take control or ownership of industries, in my experience as an IT contractor the public sector is really inefficient. I want capitalism which forces corporations to treat employee interests equal to those of shareholders and executives.

I want requirements that corporate dividends and stock buybacks must be matched with equal funds used for non-executive employee bonuses.

I want a progressive corporate tax rate.

I want better sick and vacation time standards.

I want laws requiring all non-executive pay to be indexed to inflation; an end to being denied a raise and ending up worse off from inflation.

I want executive compensation capped relative to the company's average wage.

I want a corporate alternative minimum tax based on their total assets.

I want a tax on offshored jobs. I want companies to have tax incentives to train and promote internally.

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Response to Amishman (Reply #25)

Thu Apr 25, 2019, 05:05 PM

30. Those all sound like great ideas :)

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Response to Soph0571 (Original post)

Thu Apr 25, 2019, 08:29 AM

27. Humans have evolved over billions of years

as all of existing life has. This evolution was based on competition between and within species.. Life as we know it would not exist without competition.


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Response to Soph0571 (Original post)

Thu Apr 25, 2019, 11:56 AM

28. geee, such a difficult question.

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Response to Soph0571 (Original post)

Thu Apr 25, 2019, 12:17 PM

29. I'm for free college education, but I'm pretty sure I won't get my $31,000 back.

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