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Is that what you want????? (Original Post) Soph0571 Apr 2019 OP
Quick - Somebody yell "Socialism!" gratuitous Apr 2019 #1
somebody is believe me. barbtries Apr 2019 #16
Tell him it's not socialism, it's civilization ProfessorPlum Apr 2019 #24
SOSHULIZUMM!! lastlib Apr 2019 #22
Why yes I do. TNNurse Apr 2019 #2
That is exactly what I want. bluescribbler Apr 2019 #3
I want racing skis for this slipper slope... TygrBright Apr 2019 #4
Can I have a stillcool Apr 2019 #5
Now now Soph0571 Apr 2019 #8
that's what happens... stillcool Apr 2019 #10
Damn takers grumble grumble! Volaris Apr 2019 #11
Works for me patphil Apr 2019 #6
Easy answer: YES!!!!! Initech Apr 2019 #7
Forgive Puerto Rico's debt and fking apologize to them! OMGWTF Apr 2019 #9
Well done. BeckyDem Apr 2019 #12
I'm... I actually do. calimary Apr 2019 #13
Yes......... Farmer-Rick Apr 2019 #14
The HORROR!!!!!! Takket Apr 2019 #15
People think that without a profit motive, people become lazy. Caliman73 Apr 2019 #17
What I don't understand is why we gave the loans in the first place. MadDAsHell Apr 2019 #18
Because by way of litigation you can take every worldly asset they own and then force ..... magicarpet Apr 2019 #26
Count me in. warmfeet Apr 2019 #19
The sooner we get socialism the better! Joe941 Apr 2019 #20
Somewhere a luxury yacht owner is weeping Blue Owl Apr 2019 #21
YES! Highly appropriate, I think. n/t CaliforniaPeggy Apr 2019 #23
No, reorganizing the economy sounds too much like a planned economy Amishman Apr 2019 #25
Those all sound like great ideas :) Luciferous Apr 2019 #30
Humans have evolved over billions of years Progressive dog Apr 2019 #27
geee, such a difficult question. niyad Apr 2019 #28
I'm for free college education, but I'm pretty sure I won't get my $31,000 back. CaptYossarian Apr 2019 #29

barbtries

(28,789 posts)
16. somebody is believe me.
Wed Apr 24, 2019, 06:57 PM
Apr 2019

a friend on the phone last night, who is fairly liberal (not as much as me), said that. we can't look like we're pushing socialism!! aargh

but they love their SS and their medicare right.

stillcool

(32,626 posts)
10. that's what happens...
Wed Apr 24, 2019, 05:22 PM
Apr 2019

give me some food, and then next thing you know I'll want water to wash it down.

calimary

(81,238 posts)
13. I'm... I actually do.
Wed Apr 24, 2019, 06:09 PM
Apr 2019

That’s the kind of society I’d like to live in. One that’s set up to benefit the greater good.

Caliman73

(11,736 posts)
17. People think that without a profit motive, people become lazy.
Wed Apr 24, 2019, 07:04 PM
Apr 2019

The reality is that there are people who for whatever reason, are not competitive or driven by challenge. There will always be those people who are not driven to produce. I predict that the vast majority of people would continue to challenge themselves to have some kind of impact in the world, through creative means, or by inventing or building something regardless of whether it made them wealthy. The idea that people only do things because of money has been debunked over and over. Yes, there are people who are motivated by money and power, and greed. However, most people are driven by having their life mean something. We work for money because money buys food, pays for our housing, buys us things we need and some we want.

My wife and I think about what we would do if we won the Lottery, a few million dollars or even the big one. None of that fantasizing EVER includes doing nothing, being lazy on the couch. Mostly it is around starting organizations to help children in the community or continuing in school to finish our degrees and licenses to practice therapy or start an agency. We want to work for more than just having enough to eat or to pay off our student debt and mortgage, but those things are priority right now and keep us in the jobs we are struggling at.

 

MadDAsHell

(2,067 posts)
18. What I don't understand is why we gave the loans in the first place.
Wed Apr 24, 2019, 07:20 PM
Apr 2019

If the loans are so overwhelming that they practically bankrupt people, why even issue them to begin with?

magicarpet

(14,145 posts)
26. Because by way of litigation you can take every worldly asset they own and then force .....
Thu Apr 25, 2019, 06:55 AM
Apr 2019

.... them into bankuptcy. Vulture capitalism at its very finest.

warmfeet

(3,321 posts)
19. Count me in.
Wed Apr 24, 2019, 07:26 PM
Apr 2019

We humans have the power to destroy many life forms. We also have the power to preserve those life forms.

All life has value

I know the direction I would like to go.

The clock is ticking though, and we need to take action very soon.

Human life has value, all life has value.

Amishman

(5,557 posts)
25. No, reorganizing the economy sounds too much like a planned economy
Thu Apr 25, 2019, 05:19 AM
Apr 2019

Which has never worked.

I am not a socialist, I want capitalism with limits on corporate greed. I do not want the government to take control or ownership of industries, in my experience as an IT contractor the public sector is really inefficient. I want capitalism which forces corporations to treat employee interests equal to those of shareholders and executives.

I want requirements that corporate dividends and stock buybacks must be matched with equal funds used for non-executive employee bonuses.

I want a progressive corporate tax rate.

I want better sick and vacation time standards.

I want laws requiring all non-executive pay to be indexed to inflation; an end to being denied a raise and ending up worse off from inflation.

I want executive compensation capped relative to the company's average wage.

I want a corporate alternative minimum tax based on their total assets.

I want a tax on offshored jobs. I want companies to have tax incentives to train and promote internally.

Progressive dog

(6,900 posts)
27. Humans have evolved over billions of years
Thu Apr 25, 2019, 08:29 AM
Apr 2019

as all of existing life has. This evolution was based on competition between and within species.. Life as we know it would not exist without competition.


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