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gratuitous

(82,849 posts)
Wed Apr 24, 2019, 01:28 PM Apr 2019

Jenna Bush Hager Just Revealed She Had An Ectopic Pregnancy

This is an important story to tell, and I'm glad that Jenna Bush Hager survived this and was still able to have children. That's not how it works out for every woman, and there are very active forces in our country working against women's health right now:

Story from Women's Health

Jenna Bush Hager announced Monday that she's pregnant with her third child, but Tuesday, on TODAY with Hoda & Jenna, she revealed becoming a mother hasn't always been easy

While talking to Meredith Viera (who's filling in for Hoda Kotb while she's out caring for her new baby), Jenna revealed her first pregnancy was actually an ectopic pregnancy.

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Some women are more likely to experience ectopic pregnancy, including those who have had a previous ectopic pregnancy, or previous pelvic or abdominal surgery. Women with pelvic inflammatory disease or endometriosis also have increased risk for ectopic pregnancies, along with women who smoke, are older than 35, and have a history of infertility or have used in vitro fertilization.

The only way to treat an ectopic pregnancy is by terminating the pregnancy through medication or surgery, per the ACOG. In Jenna's case, she went through emergency surgery to treat her ectopic pregnancy. "I went into emergency surgery and I had my fallopian tube removed," she said.


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Jenna Bush Hager Just Revealed She Had An Ectopic Pregnancy (Original Post) gratuitous Apr 2019 OP
Obviously she couldn't have had an abortion. n/t brewens Apr 2019 #1
Since the egg is fertilized already, according to riversedge Apr 2019 #4
I've been taunting my white-wing state rep that I went to school with proposing a personhood bill. brewens Apr 2019 #6
Keep Up The Good Work! corbettkroehler Apr 2019 #8
No, they wouldn't because misanthrope Apr 2019 #9
Right, Because The Surgery Which Saved Her Life Is "Abortofascient" corbettkroehler Apr 2019 #7
Considering that grandmother admitted to being pro-choice misanthrope Apr 2019 #10
Yeah, that's called an abortion. It's a good thing she was able to access the healthcare she needed. WhiskeyGrinder Apr 2019 #2
apparently they are too stupid to understand that an embryo can demigoddess Apr 2019 #5
Another way to say that is: Volaris Apr 2019 #19
Also, this is why I don't have a problem saying I'm pro-abortion. An abortion is the perfect way to WhiskeyGrinder Apr 2019 #3
I get what point you are trying to make but typically (speaking from experience) tymorial Apr 2019 #11
While it's important to respect patients' wishes, the dichotomy between un/wanted and WhiskeyGrinder Apr 2019 #12
Rich people CCExile Apr 2019 #24
What do the Talibornigans think about this? Dawson Leery Apr 2019 #13
The majority of rethugs would call her a murderer Takket Apr 2019 #14
My mom had one MFM008 Apr 2019 #15
I remember reading about Barbara Bush visiting her namesake hospital in Maine kskiska Apr 2019 #16
I have another viewpoint on this subject Ohiogal Apr 2019 #17
Catholic hospitals generally will not provide medical or surgical abortions for ectopic pregnancies WhiskeyGrinder Apr 2019 #20
"What is an abortion? I'll take Hypocrisy for $1,000, Alex." Dave Starsky Apr 2019 #18
I have a family member who had two ectopic pregnancies. llmart Apr 2019 #21
Abortion! /nt sdfernando Apr 2019 #22
I'll bet a thousand dollars ismnotwasm Apr 2019 #23

riversedge

(69,721 posts)
4. Since the egg is fertilized already, according to
Wed Apr 24, 2019, 01:39 PM
Apr 2019

pro-lifers, it is a 'human life'. Must be treated --so it is aborted surgically. Most women lose one of their tubes.

My guess is that the RW would not call this an abortion (to save the life of the woman)--

brewens

(13,397 posts)
6. I've been taunting my white-wing state rep that I went to school with proposing a personhood bill.
Wed Apr 24, 2019, 02:03 PM
Apr 2019

My buddies wife was good friends with his wife, and by all accounts, they would have had ten or more kids rather than just the two, if she had not been on birth control for many years.

He wasn't thinking of introducing such a bill, but I was busting his balls over it! I was telling him that if you believe all the other abortion crap, might as well go all the way. But that's retroactive. If you call the pill an abortion now, that means millions of women have been having billions of abortions all those years!

corbettkroehler

(1,898 posts)
7. Right, Because The Surgery Which Saved Her Life Is "Abortofascient"
Wed Apr 24, 2019, 02:04 PM
Apr 2019

When opponents of reproductive freedom are confronted with this important realities, they usually change the subject.

Although I think her father was the second-worst president in American history, I sympathize with her plight. Surgery is tough enough but her situation was far worse, medically, psychologically and socially because of the attitude of many of her family's conservative members and friends.

I wonder what her late paternal grandmother would say if asked whether undergoing this surgery to save her life made her a bad person or sinner?

WhiskeyGrinder

(22,145 posts)
2. Yeah, that's called an abortion. It's a good thing she was able to access the healthcare she needed.
Wed Apr 24, 2019, 01:35 PM
Apr 2019

There are those in the "abolish abortion" movement who say people with ectopic pregnancies just need to go on bed rest and let nature take its course.

demigoddess

(6,640 posts)
5. apparently they are too stupid to understand that an embryo can
Wed Apr 24, 2019, 01:55 PM
Apr 2019

implant itself outside the uterus. Or do they think an embryo has no link to the uterus. It just floats there? I am amazed at the scientific ignorance of some Americans. Some people actually believe that handicapped children whose genetics are damaged were made that way by an attempted abortion or something the mother did.

Volaris

(10,260 posts)
19. Another way to say that is:
Wed Apr 24, 2019, 03:40 PM
Apr 2019

That woman should go away and die, and not make me or my white jesus think about that.

Infuriating .

WhiskeyGrinder

(22,145 posts)
3. Also, this is why I don't have a problem saying I'm pro-abortion. An abortion is the perfect way to
Wed Apr 24, 2019, 01:38 PM
Apr 2019

treat someone who has an ectopic pregnancy and protect their fertility as they see fit. I'm pro-stuff-that-does-that, and abortion is one of those things.

tymorial

(3,433 posts)
11. I get what point you are trying to make but typically (speaking from experience)
Wed Apr 24, 2019, 02:14 PM
Apr 2019

When a pregnancy is wanted but must be ended, terminate is sometimes opted rather than abortion. We needed to end two pregnancies for different reasons and terminate was used by both the providers and by us. Both times were absolutely devastating to us and to this day she feels guilty as if she was somehow the cause. She has worked through that with help but it's still difficult for us to discuss with each other let alone other. Terminate softens the langauge and helps emotionally.

I have observed this with my patients as well.

WhiskeyGrinder

(22,145 posts)
12. While it's important to respect patients' wishes, the dichotomy between un/wanted and
Wed Apr 24, 2019, 02:22 PM
Apr 2019

termination/abortion is what leads to the idea that some abortions are better, more valid or more necessary than others, when all it comes down to is whether a person doesn't want to be pregnant anymore or not.

CCExile

(456 posts)
24. Rich people
Wed Apr 24, 2019, 04:10 PM
Apr 2019

can all the abortions or terminations they want at any time, and it will always be that way, even in a Dominionist utopia.

Takket

(21,424 posts)
14. The majority of rethugs would call her a murderer
Wed Apr 24, 2019, 02:33 PM
Apr 2019

And say she should have died rather than face an abortion.

kskiska

(27,041 posts)
16. I remember reading about Barbara Bush visiting her namesake hospital in Maine
Wed Apr 24, 2019, 02:43 PM
Apr 2019

(possibly TIME Magazine) where she remarked that some of the extremely premature children in incubators shouldn't even be there.

Ohiogal

(31,660 posts)
17. I have another viewpoint on this subject
Wed Apr 24, 2019, 03:16 PM
Apr 2019

that recently occurred to the daughter of my best friend.

Friend's daughter was diagnosed with an ectopic pregnancy last December. Her physician advised termination by injection of a drug.

The only hospital in our town is a Catholic one, and they REFUSED TO PERFORM this treatment her doctor prescribed.

We had another hospital in town for over 50 years that was not religiously affiliated, but, unfortunately, they closed down last summer.

My friend's daughter was fortunate that there's another hospital about 15 miles away that is secular and she was able to go there and have her pregnancy terminated.

Now -- tell me -- what do women do who have ectopic pregnancies who cannot get treatment from a Catholic hospital and there's no other hospital nearby? Does the Catholic policy say "sorry, dear, you have to die, because that clump of cells clogging up your tube is more important to our religion than YOUR life"????

I am still shaking while typing this, I get so mad about it! It's so totally unfair and wrong!

WhiskeyGrinder

(22,145 posts)
20. Catholic hospitals generally will not provide medical or surgical abortions for ectopic pregnancies
Wed Apr 24, 2019, 03:50 PM
Apr 2019

in which the fetus still has a heartbeat. They will remove a dead fetus. There doesn't seem to be clear teachings on how to get that heartbeat to stop and in many cases it's left up to the physician, leading to a lot of unnecessary pain and cruelty.

llmart

(15,499 posts)
21. I have a family member who had two ectopic pregnancies.
Wed Apr 24, 2019, 04:03 PM
Apr 2019

She almost died. Both ended in having her tubes removed. She said it was the most painful thing she'd ever gone through. Also, she's a religious person who voted for Trump and claims she's pro-life.

These kinds of people have an inability to see their own hypocrisy. They have a way of rationalizing what they do, but passing judgment on others for their choices.

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