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Wed Apr 24, 2019, 10:56 AM

If Trump succeeds in preventing disclosure of his tax returns to congress, and additionally

flaunts congressional subpoenas one can be pretty sure a dictatorship is well on its way IMO. IMO many Americans still don't get WTF is going on in a country where so many are aloof thinking the other guy is doing their job ... or they are just too busy to care about the future of the country.

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Response to RKP5637 (Original post)

Wed Apr 24, 2019, 11:01 AM

1. Lets be honest

Most people are too absorbed in their pop culture social media bullshit world to care because the economy is ok for them and we aren't at war. They only see things on the peripheral and don't understand that this isn't just "both sides politics as usual" and that this man is a dire threat to the world.

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Response to ScratchCat (Reply #1)

Wed Apr 24, 2019, 11:11 AM

3. Definitely!!! And, the US has never endured the pain that other countries have suffered under

forms of totalitarianism. Trump knows he can just push ahead and break the boundaries of a democracy because he seems to get little push back, and he has secured accomplices. I don't think he's as stupid as many make him out to be ... some of it is an act IMO for his crazed supporters.

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Response to RKP5637 (Original post)

Wed Apr 24, 2019, 11:01 AM

2. Apathy is a big part of the problem

I know a number of people who just can't be bothered to care, and others who are being beaten down by the burdens of modern life to have time or energy to engage. Still others as downright willfully ignorant and love all this, and love Trump's authoritarian approach that punishes people that are not like them. Dangerous times.

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Response to The Genealogist (Reply #2)

Wed Apr 24, 2019, 11:20 AM

4. Yeah, I know a number of people like that too, and some others that have money that vote republican

and for Trump because they say the Democrats will take away their money. It's a total WTF, but they are unshakable beliefs, and they in other respects are nice decent people and rather liberal ... yet they vote for Trump. A total WTF. Then, I know some aloof ones, basically nice people, pretty liberal, yet they don't bother to vote ... or say they do but lie. So many people in this country just can't seem to comprehend WTF is going on, that our democracy is being fragmented. Trump is not stupid IMO, he knows what he's doing. For example, how he has in many ways captured this country.

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Response to The Genealogist (Reply #2)

Wed Apr 24, 2019, 11:40 AM

5. Those "others" are my friends* too

They all say, "I wish he would stop tweeting.... but..." followed by some crazy justification about libruls, minorities or whatever their nonsensical gripe is.

* (All these folks are in the top 10% of Americans too, six figures, investment property, etc...)

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Response to RKP5637 (Original post)

Wed Apr 24, 2019, 11:41 AM

6. Or they don't care about the future of our country because they hold

a loyalty and allegiance to a "higher power", their God. Allegiance to Jesus is their highest priority.

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Response to KPN (Reply #6)

Wed Apr 24, 2019, 12:27 PM

7. Yep, and sometimes they are the worst ... some thinking they have this magical connection

to some superior power, etc.

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Response to RKP5637 (Reply #7)

Wed Apr 24, 2019, 04:50 PM

8. Exactly. I have a brother who is like that.

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Response to KPN (Reply #8)

Wed Apr 24, 2019, 05:20 PM

9. Some of the worst drivers I've seen in traffic have a fish logo on the back of their car/truck.

I guess they feel they are immune or special ... to have no accident and can cut off anyone they want because they have a special relationship with some idiotic super-power. The whole lot of them IMO are on a head trip.

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