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blondebanshee

(353 posts)
Wed Apr 24, 2019, 09:21 AM Apr 2019

Study: 22% of Millennials are unaware or unsure of what the Holocaust is

The study was conducted by the Conference on Jewish Material Claims Against Germany. Eleven percent of U.S. adults haven't heard or are unsure of what the Holocaust was.

Sixty-six percent of Millennials and 41 percent of adults don't know what Auschwitz is.

[link:https://wjla.com/news/nation-world/study-22-of-millennials-are-unaware-or-unsure-of-what-the-holocaust-is|

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Study: 22% of Millennials are unaware or unsure of what the Holocaust is (Original Post) blondebanshee Apr 2019 OP
This is why history repeats itself. Renew Deal Apr 2019 #1
This should be a required course NYMinute Apr 2019 #2
20th century history was an elective in high school tymorial Apr 2019 #4
We studied the Holocaust in both US and World history in high school. Caliman73 Apr 2019 #19
I had a high school class dedicated the history of to WWII Germany ProudLib72 Apr 2019 #48
Shocking. What has become of our educational system? sinkingfeeling Apr 2019 #3
They focus on standardized testing constantly. world wide wally Apr 2019 #7
republicans. nt barbtries Apr 2019 #13
Even if they don't teach it in school, where is the intellectual curiosity to learn it on one's own. EffieBlack Apr 2019 #27
Just what was intended misanthrope Apr 2019 #30
Standardized testing. CrispyQ Apr 2019 #52
Sports, money, competition, military-warfare, sex- all connected appalachiablue Apr 2019 #53
All connected to the patriarchy. -nt CrispyQ Apr 2019 #55
Yup. Education has taken a real hit in 40 yrs. as planned. appalachiablue Apr 2019 #58
Holocaust knowledge is also declining among Europeans, Canadians!! appalachiablue Apr 2019 #57
I learned about this in school. They don't teach it anymore? Iliyah Apr 2019 #5
This is sad. rownesheck Apr 2019 #6
It is more than sad, it is educational neglect. Caliman73 Apr 2019 #20
Don't even need to learn in school treestar Apr 2019 #8
How is that even possible? Solly Mack Apr 2019 #9
Because teachers don't want to teach it. When my daughter was in high school pnwmom Apr 2019 #34
Sounds like a teacher tired of reading bad term papers. Solly Mack Apr 2019 #36
I vote for "idiot." n/t pnwmom Apr 2019 #37
"Sixty-six percent of Millennials and 41 percent of adults" Um, every Millennial is an adult. Cuthbert Allgood Apr 2019 #10
There are other adults that aren't Millennials dumbcat Apr 2019 #16
Got it--processed it incorrectly as I glanced at it clearly. Cuthbert Allgood Apr 2019 #25
No problem dumbcat Apr 2019 #35
It's not complicated Blecht Apr 2019 #17
My god.... words fail. onecaliberal Apr 2019 #11
doomed to repeat. barbtries Apr 2019 #12
I'm sure this is by design, but I find it disgusting ecstatic Apr 2019 #14
It is a bit strange that Germany, dugog55 Apr 2019 #15
Like the US should have classes on slavery and the genocide of Native Americans n/t TexasBushwhacker Apr 2019 #56
Unbelievable Trumpocalypse Apr 2019 #18
Exactly. It's unbelievable. Mariana Apr 2019 #24
Yeah, I don't believe it, either obamanut2012 Apr 2019 #38
Part Of The Problem RobinA Apr 2019 #21
I wonder if some if that is trolling the poll taker Amishman Apr 2019 #22
The Millennial who lives in my house thinks so. Mariana Apr 2019 #23
Millennials aren't teenagers. moose65 Apr 2019 #29
So 88% are sure and aware of the holocust. Srkdqltr Apr 2019 #26
Do schools spend much time teaching 20th century history? JaneQPublic Apr 2019 #28
General history courses sarisataka Apr 2019 #31
Thanks! JaneQPublic Apr 2019 #32
It's sad, but I believe it. Captain Stern Apr 2019 #33
You have to understand the past bdamomma Apr 2019 #42
I agree. We do have to understand the past to move forward in the future. Captain Stern Apr 2019 #49
Captain Stern bdamomma Apr 2019 #59
"Millennials" are adults, the oldest are in their mid-30's now (n/t) Spider Jerusalem Apr 2019 #39
That is sad bdamomma Apr 2019 #40
How the fuck is this POSSIBLE??? Volaris Apr 2019 #41
DeVos had nothing to do with educating Millennials. Mariana Apr 2019 #43
Technically that's true...but her and her ilk have been with us in one form or another Volaris Apr 2019 #44
Where there is ignorance repukes thrive. Joe941 Apr 2019 #45
Not surprised. Behind the Aegis Apr 2019 #46
I didn't learn about the Holocaust in school either Codeine Apr 2019 #47
I learned a lot about the Holocaust, Hitler JonLP24 Apr 2019 #50
You don't know where you are going if you don't know where you have been. redstatebluegirl Apr 2019 #51
Not just the US. Ignorance is widespread in Canada, Britain, France appalachiablue Apr 2019 #54

Renew Deal

(81,856 posts)
1. This is why history repeats itself.
Wed Apr 24, 2019, 09:22 AM
Apr 2019

Enough time passes that people either forget or are never told or they think they won’t make the same mistakes.

tymorial

(3,433 posts)
4. 20th century history was an elective in high school
Wed Apr 24, 2019, 09:26 AM
Apr 2019

Granted that was nearly 25 years ago but I agree with you.

Caliman73

(11,736 posts)
19. We studied the Holocaust in both US and World history in high school.
Wed Apr 24, 2019, 12:01 PM
Apr 2019

True. I graduated in 1991, but it was part of the basic curriculum then.

 

EffieBlack

(14,249 posts)
27. Even if they don't teach it in school, where is the intellectual curiosity to learn it on one's own.
Wed Apr 24, 2019, 01:52 PM
Apr 2019

Folks' knowledge in this information age is - or should not be - limited to what they learned in school. Surely much of what millennials know now was never taught in their classrooms ...

Capt. Ross: Corporal Barnes ... Is there no book, no manual or pamphlet, no set of orders or regulations that lets me know that, as a Marine, one of my duties is to perform code reds?

Cpl. Barnes: No, sir. No book, sir.

Capt. Ross: No further questions.

[as Ross walks back to his table Kaffee takes the book out of his hand]

Kaffee: Corporal, would you turn to the page in this book that says where the mess hall is, please?

Cpl. Barnes: Well, Lt. Kaffee, that's not in the book, sir.

Kaffee: You mean to say in all your time at Gitmo, you've never had a meal?

Cpl. Barnes: No, sir. Three squares a day, sir.

Kaffee: I don't understand. How did you know where the mess hall was if it's not in this book?

Cpl. Barnes: Well, I guess I just followed the crowd at chow time, sir.

Kaffee: No more questions.


From "A Few Good Men"

CrispyQ

(36,461 posts)
52. Standardized testing.
Thu Apr 25, 2019, 02:54 PM
Apr 2019

The GOP has focused on filling positions in Boards of Education since the 1980s. They had a long term strategy & it's paying off.

And sports. This country is sports crazed. It's obscene how much many universities pay their sports coaches. And even at a high school level sports is often emphasized/supported more than academics.

appalachiablue

(41,131 posts)
57. Holocaust knowledge is also declining among Europeans, Canadians!!
Thu Apr 25, 2019, 09:51 PM
Apr 2019

- A Third Of People In Major European Countries Know Little Or Nothing About The Holocaust. Many Europeans also hold anti-Semitic beliefs, a CNN poll confirms, Huff Post, Nov. 28, 2018.
https://www.huffpost.com/entry/holocaust-antisemitism-survey-europe-cnn_n_5bfef9bfe4b0e254c9270726

- Study: Canadians Lack Basic Knowledge of the Holocaust. Like their U.S. counterparts, young adults in Canada show an alarming knowledge gap, a survey shows. US News, Jan. 2019.
https://www.usnews.com/news/best-countries/articles/2019-01-24/canadian-young-adults-know-little-about-the-holocaust-survey-finds

rownesheck

(2,343 posts)
6. This is sad.
Wed Apr 24, 2019, 09:30 AM
Apr 2019

But with so much information available on an infinite amount of topics nowadays, maybe the brain can only retain so much. Stuff just gets pushed aside.

Caliman73

(11,736 posts)
20. It is more than sad, it is educational neglect.
Wed Apr 24, 2019, 12:09 PM
Apr 2019

You are right, there is a great deal of information to cover, however WW2 is still a pivotal event in World History and the Holocaust should certainly be a section of study during the unit on WW2. It is quite simple really.

WW2 as a consequence of the failings of the Treaty of Versailles and other Treaties.

The Rise of Hitler & the Third Reich in the context of social and economic upheaval in the 1920's and 1930's.

The Reich's use of antisemitism and the beginnings of expansion into the east.

The failure of European powers to stop the rise of the Nazis and American isolationism in the 1920's and 30's.

The War & The Final Solution.


Obviously there would be units on the Rise of Japan and expansionism in the Pacific as well, but the Holocaust was a central theme in the European theater of war.

treestar

(82,383 posts)
8. Don't even need to learn in school
Wed Apr 24, 2019, 09:35 AM
Apr 2019

Just general awareness. There are many documentaries, books, and articles.

Solly Mack

(90,764 posts)
9. How is that even possible?
Wed Apr 24, 2019, 09:41 AM
Apr 2019

The information is out there. School, documentaries, books, remembrances.

How?

WTF?

How?

Disgusting.

pnwmom

(108,977 posts)
34. Because teachers don't want to teach it. When my daughter was in high school
Wed Apr 24, 2019, 03:55 PM
Apr 2019

her teacher said she didn't want the history term paper to be on a topic "everybody" already knew about. One of them was the Holocaust.

Cuthbert Allgood

(4,921 posts)
10. "Sixty-six percent of Millennials and 41 percent of adults" Um, every Millennial is an adult.
Wed Apr 24, 2019, 09:43 AM
Apr 2019

So, not sure who this survey is polling.

dumbcat

(2,120 posts)
16. There are other adults that aren't Millennials
Wed Apr 24, 2019, 10:45 AM
Apr 2019

such as us Boomers.

So the survey was among a group of adults, not all of whom were Millennials.

Blecht

(3,803 posts)
17. It's not complicated
Wed Apr 24, 2019, 11:51 AM
Apr 2019

Last edited Wed Apr 24, 2019, 06:51 PM - Edit history (1)

It means what it says.

The idea that all Millennials are adults, but not all adults are Millennials is something you need to bring to the party.

Here is the info about the survey (just two links away):

The Conference on Jewish Material Claims Against Germany commissioned Schoen Consulting to conduct a comprehensive national study of Holocaust knowledge and awareness in the United States. Schoen Consulting conducted 1,350 interviews with American adults aged 18 and over between February 23–27, 2018. The margin of error is +/- 3%.

ecstatic

(32,701 posts)
14. I'm sure this is by design, but I find it disgusting
Wed Apr 24, 2019, 09:54 AM
Apr 2019

that those in control of the curriculum/textbooks/etc have systematically whitewashed history with regard to slavery, the Holocaust, Native Americans, etc. Again, I think it's by design, but I don't think it's going to work out the way they intended. When citizens become overwhelmingly ignorant of history, the entire country is at risk of failing, and yes, that affects the 1% as well.

dugog55

(296 posts)
15. It is a bit strange that Germany,
Wed Apr 24, 2019, 10:40 AM
Apr 2019

who were the perpetrators of the Holocaust, have classes in school for all their students on the Holocaust. They do not hide from it, and use it as a lesson for future generations as to just how horrible people can be to other people. It is not a 30 minute slide show, but a detailed, lengthy course. I am sure it is sobering to some children to know that Great Grandpa was a Nazi and participated in such a horrific program.

Mariana

(14,856 posts)
24. Exactly. It's unbelievable.
Wed Apr 24, 2019, 01:45 PM
Apr 2019

That's why I don't believe it. I believe many of the respondents were pissed off that this idiot pollster was asking them such a stupid question.

RobinA

(9,888 posts)
21. Part Of The Problem
Wed Apr 24, 2019, 12:39 PM
Apr 2019

is that kids don't read at all anymore. I don't even remember where I learned about the Holocaust. We read Diary of Anne Frank in 6th grade. I THINK we had it in school, but I could remember falsely. I was a voracious reader and picked up a lot outside of school. I know we covered WW2 many times in Jr. High and High School.

Another odd issue that I discovered was when several of us in my family did DNA testing. It came out that my niece knew next to nothing about genetics. Because she went to the same high school that my sister and I went to, and we had a very good genetics unit, I asked her way she didn't know anything. She said that she didn't remember studying it and if they had she probably wouldn't have believed it. I was floored. It's science. Science progresses, but not believing science you learn in school in the 2000s? She's a millennial, and I had to wonder if all millennials don't believe what they learn in school. I mean, there's healthy skepticism and then there's not believing how cells divide.

Amishman

(5,557 posts)
22. I wonder if some if that is trolling the poll taker
Wed Apr 24, 2019, 12:50 PM
Apr 2019

I know when I was in my teens, I was a contrary shithead and probably would have gleefully played dumb to mess with their results

Mariana

(14,856 posts)
23. The Millennial who lives in my house thinks so.
Wed Apr 24, 2019, 01:43 PM
Apr 2019

She and her friends hate polls like this, because the questions are stupid and/or insulting.

Just for the record, there are no Millennial teens. All of them are adults.

moose65

(3,166 posts)
29. Millennials aren't teenagers.
Wed Apr 24, 2019, 02:22 PM
Apr 2019

The youngest millennials are 22, 23 years old. The oldest ones are in their late 30s.

JaneQPublic

(7,113 posts)
28. Do schools spend much time teaching 20th century history?
Wed Apr 24, 2019, 02:18 PM
Apr 2019

Not having kids, I really don't know, but my own high school experience a million years ago was that lots of class time was spent on the Civil War and western civilization, etc., but next to nothing on more recent history.

In fact, my first exposure to Jim Crow laws was on a field trip to Lincoln's New Salem, IL, not from our history teacher but from an African-American classmate who schooled the rest of us on the bus trip home.

I probably first heard the word "Holocaust" from the 1970s TV mini-series by the same name, not in class.

Judging from the poll's findings, nothing much has improved in the eons since I was in high school.

sarisataka

(18,633 posts)
31. General history courses
Wed Apr 24, 2019, 03:38 PM
Apr 2019

Typically get through the Depression but speed through the rest of the 20th century if they have time. High schools may offer more in depth courses on 20th century history but usually those are electives.

Captain Stern

(2,201 posts)
33. It's sad, but I believe it.
Wed Apr 24, 2019, 03:51 PM
Apr 2019

Because, for the most part, people don't really give a shit about stuff that happened 'a long time ago' or stuff that doesn't affect their daily life, so they forget it.

I'd bet that most adults can't name the original 13 colonies or tell you what an Isosceles Triangle is......despite almost everyone having learned those things in school.

bdamomma

(63,845 posts)
42. You have to understand the past
Wed Apr 24, 2019, 07:04 PM
Apr 2019

to move forward in the future. Sad really sad. So people wouldn't give two shits if they living in a dictatorship???

Captain Stern

(2,201 posts)
49. I agree. We do have to understand the past to move forward in the future.
Thu Apr 25, 2019, 01:32 PM
Apr 2019

But a significant percentage of people don't worry about it because they figure someone else will take care of doing that understanding. If it's not happening right now, and it doesn't affect them directly, they don't care.

That's why one in five millennials are unaware, or unsure of, what the Holocaust was. It's not that it wasn't that they weren't taught about the Holocaust in school. They were. They just forgot it. It was 'a long time ago', so it's about as important to them as stories about the old west, or medieval times, or Alexander the Great.

And, I'm not knocking millennials in particular. The generation behind them is going to be even more ignorant about the Holocaust, and the generation after that even more so.

And as far as people not giving two shits if they live in a dictatorship........Yes, there are people that wouldn't care if they lived in a dictatorship, because they might not even be aware that they live in a dictatorship. There are also plenty of folks that would be perfectly happy living under a dictator, as long as they liked that dictator.

I can practically guarantee you that there are a good amount of people in our country that would prefer to have trump as a dictator to having an elected President who is a Democrat.

bdamomma

(63,845 posts)
59. Captain Stern
Fri Apr 26, 2019, 10:10 PM
Apr 2019

your comment is chilling. But thank you for your honesty. This POS isn't giving the people anything to better their lives, just blames brown people when it is that top 1% that are stealing from us.

bdamomma

(63,845 posts)
40. That is sad
Wed Apr 24, 2019, 07:00 PM
Apr 2019

I guess history isn't being taught in schools, the way to keep the masses ignorant and easier to manipulate.

Mariana

(14,856 posts)
43. DeVos had nothing to do with educating Millennials.
Wed Apr 24, 2019, 07:52 PM
Apr 2019

They were out of high school before she was appointed to her position.

Volaris

(10,270 posts)
44. Technically that's true...but her and her ilk have been with us in one form or another
Wed Apr 24, 2019, 08:00 PM
Apr 2019

Since the founding of the public education system.

One of the questions I'd like her asked in Public:

Would your various companies have made nearly as much money if the workforce you employ, consisted ONLY of rich kids whos parents could AFFORD to teach them to read?

'crickets.'

That's what the fuck I thought.

Behind the Aegis

(53,956 posts)
46. Not surprised.
Wed Apr 24, 2019, 08:46 PM
Apr 2019

Nor am I surprised by the defense of that ignorance. There have been other polls where findings were similar. Holocaust denial and revisionism are also on the increase.

 

Codeine

(25,586 posts)
47. I didn't learn about the Holocaust in school either
Wed Apr 24, 2019, 09:54 PM
Apr 2019

and I’m irritatingly close to fifty years old. Of course I knew about it because I read books and watched documentaries and was always interested in history, but younger people don’t read or learn much outside of school much in my experience.

JonLP24

(29,322 posts)
50. I learned a lot about the Holocaust, Hitler
Thu Apr 25, 2019, 02:02 PM
Apr 2019

Read Anne Frank and watched the movie. Learned about how Nazi propaganda used Jewish stereotypes. I remember it well. Also 60 civil rights movement was covered as well. I finished school sometime before 2003 but I learned a lot more after school than I did in school.

redstatebluegirl

(12,265 posts)
51. You don't know where you are going if you don't know where you have been.
Thu Apr 25, 2019, 02:04 PM
Apr 2019

The lack of historical knowledge and civics with this generation is extremely troubling. I work with them every day so i know what I am talking about.

appalachiablue

(41,131 posts)
54. Not just the US. Ignorance is widespread in Canada, Britain, France
Thu Apr 25, 2019, 03:04 PM
Apr 2019

among the young and adults according to recent surveys. Shameful.

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