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Matt Taibbi is hell-bent on trashing (Original Post) notinkansas Apr 2019 OP
Link? Control-Z Apr 2019 #1
Here ... marble falls Apr 2019 #7
Taibbi , Greenwald, Michael Tracy and octoberlib Apr 2019 #2
Before, it seemed like there was an unwritten rule about dewsgirl Apr 2019 #3
She's intelligent JustAnotherGen Apr 2019 #4
He's a Compromised Useful Idiot JustAnotherGen Apr 2019 #5
i don't read him anymore. he lost it Kurt V. Apr 2019 #6
I used to be a Taibbi fan, and a regular reader FakeNoose Apr 2019 #8
Taibbi is a republican shill NYMinute Apr 2019 #9
He's compromised ... GeorgeGist Apr 2019 #10
Never trusted Taibbi Trumpocalypse Apr 2019 #11
when did he become another Greenwald? themaguffin Apr 2019 #12

marble falls

(57,063 posts)
7. Here ...
Wed Apr 24, 2019, 07:17 AM
Apr 2019
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Matt_Taibbi

In 2019, Taibbi wrote a piece for his self-published book, Hate Inc., titled "It's official: Russiagate is this generation's WMD", which argues that in light of the Mueller Report's finding (only partially released at the time) that the investigation "did not establish that members of the Trump campaign conspired or coordinated with the Russian government in its election interference activities", much of what mainstream media reported was exaggerated or outright false.[32] Michelle Goldberg in the New York Times criticized Taibbi's assertion that "the biggest thing [the investigation] has uncovered so far is Donald Trump paying off a porn star” as "silly."[33]


https://taibbi.substack.com/p/russiagate-is-wmd-times-a-million

It's official: Russiagate is this generation's WMD
The Iraq war faceplant damaged the reputation of the press. Russiagate just destroyed it
Mar 23

Note to readers: in light of news that Special Prosecutor Robert Mueller’s investigation is complete, I’m releasing this chapter of Hate Inc. early, with a few new details added up top.
Image: street art by Craig Tinsky, as photographed by Mike Maguire.

Nobody wants to hear this, but news that Special Prosecutor Robert Mueller is headed home without issuing new charges is a death-blow for the reputation of the American news media.

As has long been rumored, the former FBI chief’s independent probe will result in multiple indictments and convictions, but no “presidency-wrecking” conspiracy charges, or anything that would meet the layman’s definition of “collusion” with Russia.

With the caveat that even this news might somehow turn out to be botched, the key detail in the many stories about the end of the Mueller investigation was best expressed by the New York Times:

A senior Justice Department official said that Mr. Mueller would not recommend new indictments.

Attorney General William Barr sent a letter to congress summarizing Mueller’s conclusions. The money line quoted the Mueller report:

[T]he investigation did not establish that members of the Trump Campaign conspired or coordinated with the Russian government in its election interference activities.

Over the weekend, the Times tried to soften the emotional blow for the millions of Americans trained in these years to place hopes for the overturn of the Trump presidency in Mueller. As with most press coverage, there was little pretense that the Mueller probe was supposed to be a neutral fact-finding mission, as apposed to religious allegory, with Mueller cast as the hero sent to slay the monster.

The Special Prosecutor literally became a religious figure during the last few years, with votive candles sold in his image and Saturday Night Live cast members singing “All I Want for Christmas is You” to him featuring the rhymey line: “Mueller please come through, because the only option is a coup.”

The Times story today tried to preserve Santa Mueller’s reputation, noting Trump’s Attorney General William Barr’s reaction was an “endorsement” of the fineness of Mueller’s work:

In an apparent endorsement of an investigation that Mr. Trump has relentlessly attacked as a “witch hunt,” Mr. Barr said Justice Department officials never had to intervene to keep Mr. Mueller from taking an inappropriate or unwarranted step.

Mueller, in other words, never stepped out of the bounds of his job description. But could the same be said for the news media?

For those anxious to keep the dream alive, the Times published its usual graphic of Trump-Russia “contacts,” inviting readers to keep making connections. But in a separate piece by Peter Baker, the paper noted the Mueller news had dire consequences for the press:

It will be a reckoning for President Trump, to be sure, but also for Robert S. Mueller III, the special counsel, for Congress, for Democrats, for Republicans, for the news media and, yes, for the system as a whole…

This is a damning page one admission by the Times. Despite the connect-the-dots graphic in its other story, and despite the astonishing, emotion-laden editorial the paper also ran suggesting “We don’t need to read the Mueller report” because we know Trump is guilty, Baker at least began the work of preparing Times readers for a hard question: “Have journalists connected too many dots that do not really add up?”

The paper was signaling it understood there would now be questions about whether or not news outlets like itself made galactic errors by betting heavily on a new, politicized approach, trying to be true to “history’s judgment” on top of the hard-enough job of just being true. Worse, in a brutal irony everyone should have seen coming, the press has now handed Trump the mother of campaign issues heading into 2020.

Nothing Trump is accused of from now on by the press will be believed by huge chunks of the population, a group that (perhaps thanks to this story) is now larger than his original base. As Baker notes, a full 50.3% of respondents in a poll conducted this month said they agree with Trump the Mueller probe is a “witch hunt.”

Stories have been coming out for some time now hinting Mueller’s final report might leave audiences “disappointed,” as if a President not being a foreign spy could somehow be bad news.

Openly using such language has, all along, been an indictment. Imagine how tone-deaf you’d have to be to not realize it makes you look bad, when news does not match audience expectations you raised. To be unaware of this is mind-boggling, the journalistic equivalent of walking outside without pants.

There will be people protesting: the Mueller report doesn’t prove anything! What about the 37 indictments? The convictions? The Trump tower revelations? The lies! The meeting with Don, Jr.? The financial matters! There’s an ongoing grand jury investigation, and possible sealed indictments, and the House will still investigate, and…

Stop. Just stop. Any journalist who goes there is making it worse.

For years, every pundit and Democratic pol in Washington hyped every new Russia headline like the Watergate break-in. Now, even Nancy Pelosi has said impeachment is out, unless something “so compelling and overwhelming and bipartisan” against Trump is uncovered it would be worth their political trouble to prosecute.

The biggest thing this affair has uncovered so far is Donald Trump paying off a porn star. That’s a hell of a long way from what this business was supposedly about at the beginning, and shame on any reporter who tries to pretend this isn’t so.

The story hyped from the start was espionage: a secret relationship between the Trump campaign and Russian spooks who’d helped him win the election.

The betrayal narrative was not reported as metaphor. It was not “Trump likes the Russians so much, he might as well be a spy for them.” It was literal spying, treason, and election-fixing – crimes so severe, former NSA employee John Schindler told reporters, Trump “will die in jail.”

In the early months of this scandal, the New York Times said Trump’s campaign had “repeated contacts” with Russian intelligence; the Wall Street Journal told us our spy agencies were withholding intelligence from the new President out of fear he was compromised; news leaked out our spy chiefs had even told other countries like Israel not to share their intel with us, because the Russians might have “leverages of pressure” on Trump.

CNN told us Trump officials had been in “constant contact” with “Russians known to U.S. intelligence,” and the former director of the CIA, who’d helped kick-start the investigation that led to Mueller’s probe, said the President was guilty of “high crimes and misdemeanors,” committing acts “nothing short of treasonous.”

Hillary Clinton insisted Russians “could not have known how to weaponize” political ads unless they’d been “guided” by Americans. Asked if she meant Trump, she said, “It’s pretty hard not to.” Harry Reid similarly said he had “no doubt” that the Trump campaign was “in on the deal” to help Russians with the leak.

None of this has been walked back. To be clear, if Trump were being blackmailed by Russian agencies like the FSB or the GRU, if he had any kind of relationship with Russian intelligence, that would soar over the “overwhelming and bipartisan” standard, and Nancy Pelosi would be damning torpedoes for impeachment right now.

<snip>


octoberlib

(14,971 posts)
2. Taibbi , Greenwald, Michael Tracy and
Wed Apr 24, 2019, 05:32 AM
Apr 2019

Aaron Mate have all been attacking Rachel Maddow and MSNBC for saying Trump might of colluded with Russia .Most MSNBC anchors got their stories from well sourced articles in WaPo and NYT. I read Mueller’s report and he made it clear they couldn’t establish a conspiracy charge because of lack of admissible evidence due to Trump people taking the fifth, deleting texts and other evidence , using encrypted apps and lying. Greenwald even said that Trump was justified in obstructing justice because he was being unfairly accused. They’re all in for Russia.

dewsgirl

(14,961 posts)
3. Before, it seemed like there was an unwritten rule about
Wed Apr 24, 2019, 05:53 AM
Apr 2019

bashing RM. Idk Roger Ailes, was her mentor and friend. I still remember she gave a little speech the night he died, shocking many of us. I absolutely love her more than anyone else in the news world. But you have to admit even with these few, it is odd with all she reports on and as vicious as most of these @ssholes are it's very weird more don't bash her.

JustAnotherGen

(31,798 posts)
4. She's intelligent
Wed Apr 24, 2019, 06:09 AM
Apr 2019

She would never fall for Russian Propaganda and is not compromised.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/erik-wemple/wp/2017/07/07/rachel-maddow-warns-media-about-forged-document-on-trump-russia-heads-up-everybody/?utm_term=.bfa9395548b8

They know she will knock their teeth out with FACTS. Not alternative facts, not rt.com bullshit, not a tweet - but actual Five Ws and How.

I wasn't shocked about the speech and it is not uncommon for women our age who have been successful to have had older white male mentors.

Granted - mine never joined Mar A Lago - but George was pursued to be a member.

FakeNoose

(32,617 posts)
8. I used to be a Taibbi fan, and a regular reader
Wed Apr 24, 2019, 07:18 AM
Apr 2019

Not any more!

FYI - Matt Taibbi lived in Russia for 3 or 4 years during the early 90s and he happened to be there during their peaceful revolution. He must think he has to personally vouch for Putin or something, I don't get it.

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