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Tue Apr 23, 2019, 10:18 PM

Neither Madame Speaker nor any of the House's Democratic committee chairmen have yet asked for

any advice from me, but just in case they get around to it, I've given some thought to what I may say.

I would urge them to abandon any residual hope that Trump is EVER going to behave like anything but a spoiled-rotten rich kid who feels absolutely entitled to get his way about EVERYTHING. His affinity for the world's ruthless dictators is fueled by his transparent envy of their total power over the lives of their "subjects". He expects--- yes, he does---to be worshipped and feared as they are.

So---forget about any investigative approach that does not amount to FORCING the whiny, nasty, kicking-and-screaming Donny to do what integrity and common decency---not to mention the law---would cause anyone else to do. For example, stop "requesting" documents or testimony. LEAD with subpoenas and the seek arrests and contempt penalties the very hour when the compliance deadline expires.

And, in response to across the board defiance and disrespect for Congressional authority, let's review all of the things the House does to assist the White House---and withhold the assistance WHENEVER doing so will not endanger or harm ordinary citizens. Obviously, appropriations would seem to offer several opportunities to---figuratively speaking---smack Trump upside the head.

A simple rule to follow might be "If Trump or his party want it, oppose it". And, yes, of course, I realize that this is "obstruction" of the same kind that we criticized the Republicans for pursuing. And, if I recall correctly, our criticisms didn't even slow down the Trumpies. So, yes, let's "get down on their level" and fight them in the sewers where they've chosen to reside.

"Nice", "civil", and "respectful", when not reciprocated, are a recipe for defeat.

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Reply Neither Madame Speaker nor any of the House's Democratic committee chairmen have yet asked for (Original post)
Atticus Apr 2019 OP
elleng Apr 2019 #1
StarfishSaver Apr 2019 #2
bitterross Apr 2019 #4
StarfishSaver Apr 2019 #8
TwilightZone Apr 2019 #3
bdamomma Apr 2019 #5
Buffalo Soldier Apr 2019 #6
leftieNanner Apr 2019 #7
napi21 Apr 2019 #9
uponit7771 Apr 24 #11
leftieNanner Apr 24 #12
uponit7771 Apr 24 #13
leftieNanner Apr 24 #14
PoindexterOglethorpe Apr 24 #10
corbettkroehler Apr 24 #15

Response to Atticus (Original post)

Tue Apr 23, 2019, 10:22 PM

1. Madame Speaker KNOWS!

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Response to Atticus (Original post)

Tue Apr 23, 2019, 10:24 PM

2. Consider that Speaker Pelosi knows this well and is gently provoking him into "goading" her into

putting the hammer down. And when she does, she can easily say, "this wasn't the way I wanted this to go down, but he gave me no other choice."

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Response to StarfishSaver (Reply #2)

Tue Apr 23, 2019, 10:36 PM

4. The thought has crossed my mind. Perhaps she's giving him rope

Perhaps she's allowing him all the rope he needs. At the end of all his antics to delay and distract the only choice left will be impeachment. Perhaps she's just letting him push the whole thing there by his actions.

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Response to bitterross (Reply #4)

Tue Apr 23, 2019, 11:01 PM

8. And she can shrug and say, "Wasn't MY idea"

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Response to Atticus (Original post)

Tue Apr 23, 2019, 10:33 PM

3. She's aware of all that.

Plus, a bunch of stuff that we are no doubt unaware of.

As for forcing him to do anything, impeachment isn't a magic wand that is suddenly going to make him cooperate. Pelosi, et al, will have to deal with the obstruction, impeachment or no.

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Response to Atticus (Original post)

Tue Apr 23, 2019, 10:39 PM

5. He loves

chaos. He may just be goading Pelosi to do something she does not want to do. This POS will never STFU about Democrats who want to obey the laws. He is just going over the edge. Hold those who don't obey with these committee's on contempt charges.

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Response to Atticus (Original post)

Tue Apr 23, 2019, 10:42 PM

6. 100%

 

Maximum response to all of his contempt of Congress efforts. The Power of the Purse should be play.

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Response to Atticus (Original post)

Tue Apr 23, 2019, 10:51 PM

7. Nice.

I especially like the part about acting immediately on blown off subpoenas. Throw Steve Mnuch-bag in jail today! And all of them!

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Response to leftieNanner (Reply #7)

Tue Apr 23, 2019, 11:31 PM

9. I agree with acting immediately as well! I doubt there are many Trumpies who are willing to go

through the arrest process for him! Grab one or two and the problem with noncompliance with subpoenas will be gone.

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Response to leftieNanner (Reply #7)

Wed Apr 24, 2019, 02:45 AM

11. +1, throw the person in jail who is listening to Mnuch that's the low level staffer ....

... and make it public as hell.

No one is going to jail for these bastard that run the swamp, they hate them as much as we do.

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Response to uponit7771 (Reply #11)

Wed Apr 24, 2019, 02:49 AM

12. The IRS head?

Then Klein, McGahn, etc. Until they realize that we aren't kidding.

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Response to leftieNanner (Reply #12)

Wed Apr 24, 2019, 02:56 AM

13. No, the low level staffer is is listening to Minuchchin and wont follow the congressional order ...

... give people a choice; jail or the law.

Cut Mnchin (sp) off at the knees, see how long people follow him after a person spends a session or two in the slammer.

They wont follow Red Don's crew, they don't even like them

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Response to uponit7771 (Reply #13)

Wed Apr 24, 2019, 10:11 AM

14. Excellent!

This is all beyond scary! No more Nice Guy behavior by the Dems in Congress. And now this morning, Fat Donnie thinks the Supreme Court will save him from impeachment. I would send him a copy of the Constitution, but I don't think he can read it.

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Response to Atticus (Original post)

Wed Apr 24, 2019, 12:58 AM

10. I keep on being reminded of how Obama kept on expecting

Republicans to play by the rules, to compromise, to meet him half way. And they never did.

We are seeing the same thing now. Republicans who don't give a flying fuck about anything except their own personal gain. Things like common decency or the common good are completely alien concepts to them. They don't care how many get hurt, how many go hungry, how many sleep outside. They only care about their tax cuts, their wealth. They have NEVER worked in a homeless shelter, or talked to a Vet completely undone by what they've been through. Worse yet, if you were to take them to a homeless shelter, sit them down with a vet, they wouldn't care, wouldn't understand the underlying humanity.

And still, they claim to be Christians.

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Response to Atticus (Original post)

Wed Apr 24, 2019, 05:20 PM

15. I'd Add One Detail

Potatohead's attraction to dictators also is driven by his admiration for the cult of personality they have fomented. It helps him focus his tweets.

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