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11 Bravo

(23,926 posts)
Tue Apr 23, 2019, 06:25 PM Apr 2019

Have you ever actually hated a sitting US President before?

Nixon was my C-in-C, and while I thought the sonofabitch was exactly that, I didn't actually hate him.
Reagan was, at least in my opinion, an amiable dunce, who was almost completely senescent by the end of his second term. (He'll rot in Hell for ignoring the AIDS crisis, but I was unaware of it at the time.)
George HW Bush was a patrician douche, who committed crimes in service to who knows what. Probably some misguided energetic Commie-hunting bullshit instinct left over from the 60's.
W was a dope who was engaged in a dick-measuring contest with his daddy, and God knows how many innocent civilians and US service men and women paid the price.

But I never actually hated ANY sitting President.

Until now.

I want horrible things to happen to the orange shitgibbon who has usurped the people's house, and is now actively engaged in destroying everything that this country used to stand for.
If his diet should catch up with him, and he tumbles in a heap down the steps of Air Force One ... well ... shit happens. And just in case, have another double cheeseburger, Lard-Ass.

But failing that, I want him shamed, driven from office in disgrace, and never able to show his face in public again without being vociferously scorned.

For the first time in my life, I hate ... not dislike ... not have policy disagreements with ... but fucking DESPISE the President of the United States.

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Have you ever actually hated a sitting US President before? (Original Post) 11 Bravo Apr 2019 OP
I came close with Bush*, (even closer with VP Cheney), but no, I don't think I've hated a President hlthe2b Apr 2019 #1
If Dick Cheney was actually president... Yes, indeed I have.. LakeArenal Apr 2019 #2
Same here! AwakeAtLast Apr 2019 #82
Yeah. I hated GWB. Aristus Apr 2019 #3
I hated Bush Jr with blazing passion. But I didn't fear him the way I fear Pres. Turd. lagomorph777 Apr 2019 #97
Agree! maddiemom Apr 2019 #141
+1 geardaddy Apr 2019 #133
My feelings exactly. Worried senior Apr 2019 #135
I hated him as well sakabatou Apr 2019 #144
Bush, I still think he's done more damage and I'm paying for it with higher taxes. uponit7771 Apr 2019 #4
He damn near bankrupted us but what's going on now gldstwmn Apr 2019 #115
Yes, I hated Bush. Borchkins Apr 2019 #5
Yes, Reagan and Bush* LisaM Apr 2019 #6
Reagan and Bush and Trump even more. I did not hate Nixon at some point even felt sorry for him. katmondoo Apr 2019 #104
Nixon was far more complicated (and he was smarter than the others referenced) LisaM Apr 2019 #109
i cant stand looking or even hearing this ones voice . i change the channel quickly or dont look at AllaN01Bear Apr 2019 #7
I can't either. I have to scroll down grumpyduck Apr 2019 #43
He's repulsive shanti Apr 2019 #111
My late husband used to mute the TV for me when Bush* came on wryter2000 Apr 2019 #128
Can't say as I hate Trump... Thomas Hurt Apr 2019 #8
Yes, all of them. BigmanPigman Apr 2019 #9
Agreed AZ8theist Apr 2019 #67
That reminds me of the family Thanksgiving dinner 2017. BigmanPigman Apr 2019 #73
I'm NOT a kind person..... AZ8theist Apr 2019 #78
My whole family and I are BigmanPigman Apr 2019 #81
Yes. LakeArenal Apr 2019 #85
If we can't get rid of McConnell then we need gldstwmn Apr 2019 #116
nope. but i hate a sytem that delivered them. Kurt V. Apr 2019 #10
Yes. Solly Mack Apr 2019 #11
This my first time hating anyone before...nt ecstatic Apr 2019 #12
No. Hated cheney. elleng Apr 2019 #13
Hated Nixon, really hated Dubya, hate dumpf beyond description NRaleighLiberal Apr 2019 #14
Not like this. maxsolomon Apr 2019 #15
I always viewed GWB as a dumbass with good intentions. bearsfootball516 Apr 2019 #19
This. When I see him now I actually like the guy. gldstwmn Apr 2019 #117
I'm with you wryter2000 Apr 2019 #130
I think you've made an interesting distinction. The Velveteen Ocelot Apr 2019 #22
I don't think we've ever had a Sociopath before. maxsolomon Apr 2019 #28
Strictly in terms of the OP....YES....all of them since Eisenhower. dameatball Apr 2019 #16
I couldn't abide either Nixon or Reagan, and I disdained Bush II as a sorry dimwit, The Velveteen Ocelot Apr 2019 #17
I'm not sure Trump qualifies as... 3catwoman3 Apr 2019 #32
He does respond to some stimuli, and his behavior can be modified The Velveteen Ocelot Apr 2019 #33
Or maybe an... 3catwoman3 Apr 2019 #34
Cheney is a vampire. gldstwmn Apr 2019 #119
Yeah, Murder Monkey (Shrub) and Darth Cheney thegoose Apr 2019 #18
Same choices as me NYMinute Apr 2019 #92
I thought I hated GWB, but it pales in comparison to how much I hate smirkymonkey Apr 2019 #20
I feel exactly the same way. n/t rzemanfl Apr 2019 #21
No, not like this. TheCowsCameHome Apr 2019 #23
yes. barbtries Apr 2019 #24
I hate him bdamomma Apr 2019 #25
Reagan. Watching an ex movie actor fool working people with his voodoo economics and his evil jalan48 Apr 2019 #26
Yes. Bush, but trump is by one hundred-fold. brush Apr 2019 #27
With the exception of Gerald Ford, Yeehah Apr 2019 #29
In my lifetime: Nixon, Reagan, Bush, Dubya and Chump. Hassler Apr 2019 #30
I loathed Nixon, Reagan, and GWB with every fiber of my being. 50 Shades Of Blue Apr 2019 #31
The Shrub, fo sho!! InAbLuEsTaTe Apr 2019 #35
Yes. Reagan and both Bushes. GoCubsGo Apr 2019 #36
Yes, I hated GWB. BlueStater Apr 2019 #37
I despised W mainstreetonce Apr 2019 #38
Yes, I hated GWB. Maven Apr 2019 #39
I thought I did but it was nothing like the burning Sith Lord hatred I have for this motherfucker. BlueTsunami2018 Apr 2019 #40
This. So much this. CrispyQ Apr 2019 #45
yes, I hated W Bush and Trump. was a kid during Reagan JI7 Apr 2019 #41
Nixon CanonRay Apr 2019 #42
Yes. I hated Bush. CrispyQ Apr 2019 #44
Three and one-half. UTUSN Apr 2019 #46
The 3 (before SHITLER) : Tricky Dick, RAYGUN, Shrub. The 1/2: Poppy. UTUSN Apr 2019 #124
I did hate Bush 2 Wawannabe Apr 2019 #47
I hated Nixon from the 1950s to the end. And his criminal VP - rurallib Apr 2019 #48
Nixon and Cheney ( the real president during W). redstatebluegirl Apr 2019 #49
I was not interested in politics until bush but now fat Donnie makes him look like a statesman kimbutgar Apr 2019 #50
I thought I hated W but not even close to what I feel now nini Apr 2019 #51
I hated Bush Jr., still do, but LibDemAlways Apr 2019 #52
No I didn't really care much til Trump started running for President dustyscamp Apr 2019 #53
I do hate Trump and since the election my anxiety and stress levels have gone way up. dottie66 Apr 2019 #54
Cheney is the closest POS to tRump, even though he was VP he ran things for jr yaesu Apr 2019 #55
KR NT ProudProgressiveNow Apr 2019 #56
I despised Reagan, and Bush largely because of Cheney Awsi Dooger Apr 2019 #57
Yes. Bush. But love Bush compared to this guy Pepsidog Apr 2019 #58
I never hated one "as much" as I hate this asshole world wide wally Apr 2019 #59
Bush. tavernier Apr 2019 #60
No. nt mobeau69 Apr 2019 #61
It might help your hate to read about his childhood marlakay Apr 2019 #62
Hating the president Peace06 Apr 2019 #63
I hated Reagan and Bush, but this one I feel like... I can't even say it. ancianita Apr 2019 #64
Not like Trump, but NIXON nt reACTIONary Apr 2019 #65
Nixon yellowcanine Apr 2019 #66
God, yes. W. Hated him beyond what I thought I could endure MaryMagdaline Apr 2019 #68
Hated shrub. Hate Reagan now. Auggie Apr 2019 #69
Pretty close to it with GWB Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Apr 2019 #70
Nope Bettie Apr 2019 #71
GWB killed more people AlexSFCA Apr 2019 #72
it started with nixon, then ray-gun, then poppy asshole, george w. moron and now the orange asshole Javaman Apr 2019 #74
Yes. Bush and Cheney. And Reagan. C Moon Apr 2019 #75
George W Bush RandySF Apr 2019 #76
I despised GW Bush - in fact, his re-election in 2004 permanently calloused me. Midwestern Democrat Apr 2019 #77
I hated the war criminal bush jr and I hate Agent Orange. I make no apologies. Ferrets are Cool Apr 2019 #79
No, never. happybird Apr 2019 #80
Sure. Dimson Bush. Raygun. shanny Apr 2019 #83
More often than not, to be honest. nt Codeine Apr 2019 #84
yes, I hated Duyba - still do Skittles Apr 2019 #86
Yes. GWB. But I hate the Dotard much worse. Nt raccoon Apr 2019 #87
I hated GW Bush with a passion. He is a war criminal. Martin Eden Apr 2019 #88
Yeah I hate 'em all. lastlib Apr 2019 #89
I've certainly have never wished for one to die live on national tv until now. nt UniteFightBack Apr 2019 #90
Interesting. murielm99 Apr 2019 #98
I know I felt kinda bad.... UniteFightBack Apr 2019 #136
In order: 1) tRump; 2) Nixon & Reagan (tie); 3) Bush II & Bush I (tie) VOX Apr 2019 #91
Nixon, GWB HAB911 Apr 2019 #93
YES!!!!! I hated Nixon, Reagan and Bush Jr. They frightened me and all my liberal friends. Nitram Apr 2019 #94
I hated Nixon, loathed Ray-gun, Bush Sr. and reviled W, i.e., Cheney's & Rumsfeld puppet. Texin Apr 2019 #95
Nixon, Reagan, and Bush II were all near the top of my "Not Favorite People" lists struggle4progress Apr 2019 #96
I'm haunted by the prospect Trump will never suffer any consequences sop Apr 2019 #99
I didn't like GW Bush, but I could have lived with him as my next door neighbor. heckles65 Apr 2019 #100
Reagan, both Bushs and trump beachbum bob Apr 2019 #101
I absolutely hated both Bushes. Crunchy Frog Apr 2019 #102
Chester B. Arthur Soxfan58 Apr 2019 #103
It's Chester A. Arthur wryter2000 Apr 2019 #132
I think Dubya changed the playing field Azathoth Apr 2019 #105
"shifted from political disagreement to outright hatred" Martin Eden Apr 2019 #142
I feel exactly the same way. yardwork Apr 2019 #106
none of them were so fundamentally without virtue qazplm135 Apr 2019 #107
I don't hate anybody. Kaleva Apr 2019 #108
Not until this one shanti Apr 2019 #110
Nixon was my first. flotsam Apr 2019 #112
Nope - and I don't now JustAnotherGen Apr 2019 #113
I detested Bush 41. 43. MFM008 Apr 2019 #114
I've made a lot of progress Rambling Man Apr 2019 #118
Yes sellitman Apr 2019 #120
Just Nixon, Reagan, Bush one and Bush two. Buzz cook Apr 2019 #121
Trump is a first real hate for me too. Progressive dog Apr 2019 #122
Sometimes I like to think my hatred of Ronald Reagan contributed in some small part to... hunter Apr 2019 #123
I hated GW Bush wryter2000 Apr 2019 #125
Nixon, Reagan, Bush, Bush, Trump. spanone Apr 2019 #126
i thought i did but trump made me realize i just didnt like them...i hate trump. samnsara Apr 2019 #127
This message was self-deleted by its author sfwriter Apr 2019 #129
Yes, GWB. meadowlander Apr 2019 #131
reagan, W, + now prima donnie. pansypoo53219 Apr 2019 #134
W. never thought he would lose his spot as worst. joet67 Apr 2019 #137
I've been frustrated and angry and so glad-to-see-them-gone, but no, not pure loathing before. pnwmom Apr 2019 #138
I thought I hated Dubya Maru Kitteh Apr 2019 #139
I totally hated GW Bush and still do. lark Apr 2019 #140
I hated Bush JonLP24 Apr 2019 #143
FUUUCK yes. . . BigDemVoter Apr 2019 #145

hlthe2b

(102,225 posts)
1. I came close with Bush*, (even closer with VP Cheney), but no, I don't think I've hated a President
Tue Apr 23, 2019, 06:28 PM
Apr 2019

I'm afraid to even admit to myself how I truly feel about Trump.

Aristus

(66,316 posts)
3. Yeah. I hated GWB.
Tue Apr 23, 2019, 06:31 PM
Apr 2019

I haven't forgotten what a dolt he was, how ham-fisted and tongue-tied; how provincial and blockheaded. How eager he was to allow truly evil people like Dick Cheney to have free rein over this country. How he willingly allowed 9/11/2001 to be used as a political excuse for visiting all sorts of horrors upon innocent people.

I'll never forgive him for that.

I hated his guts. I still do. I don't care how chummy he and Michelle Obama get; it just proves what a class act she is.

My loathing for Trump does not diminish my hatred for the previous to the manner-born, silver spoon asshole Republican...

lagomorph777

(30,613 posts)
97. I hated Bush Jr with blazing passion. But I didn't fear him the way I fear Pres. Turd.
Wed Apr 24, 2019, 11:45 AM
Apr 2019

Turd, McConnell, and Putin clearly intend to destroy the American Republic.

LisaM

(27,801 posts)
6. Yes, Reagan and Bush*
Tue Apr 23, 2019, 06:33 PM
Apr 2019

In some ways, my reaction to Reagan was similar to my reaction to Trump. Reagan creeped me out. His smarmy voice actually made the hair on my arms stand up. I had to leave the room if his voice was on, and his heavily made-up face didn't help when it came to looking at him.

With Bush*, I more hated him for what he did, though he has the kind of personality I try to avoid IRL, too folksy and insincere.

True, Trump kind of takes it to a new level, but the answer is yes, I've hated other presidents. OTOH, I didn't feel that their voters necessarily hated me the way I felt in November 2016 that Trump voters did. I was shocked. My first reaction was, how could anyone hate me (and people who believe what I do) so much that they'd rather vote for this guy than have this country succeed?

katmondoo

(6,454 posts)
104. Reagan and Bush and Trump even more. I did not hate Nixon at some point even felt sorry for him.
Wed Apr 24, 2019, 01:28 PM
Apr 2019

LisaM

(27,801 posts)
109. Nixon was far more complicated (and he was smarter than the others referenced)
Wed Apr 24, 2019, 02:04 PM
Apr 2019

On some level, he seemed to despise himself for what he'd become. Reagan, Bush*, and Trump don't seem to have any level of introspection going, and I think Nixon was different in that regard.

AllaN01Bear

(18,150 posts)
7. i cant stand looking or even hearing this ones voice . i change the channel quickly or dont look at
Tue Apr 23, 2019, 06:33 PM
Apr 2019

an image of him.

grumpyduck

(6,232 posts)
43. I can't either. I have to scroll down
Tue Apr 23, 2019, 07:58 PM
Apr 2019

whenever he shows up on a news feed. I never thought I'd feel that way about someone.

wryter2000

(46,036 posts)
128. My late husband used to mute the TV for me when Bush* came on
Wed Apr 24, 2019, 04:54 PM
Apr 2019

Unfortunately, Hal's not here to do that for me with Trump. I can't stomach listening to him or even looking at him. He's utterly repulsive.

Thomas Hurt

(13,903 posts)
8. Can't say as I hate Trump...
Tue Apr 23, 2019, 06:34 PM
Apr 2019

I have absolutely no respect for him but I don't wish him physical harm. I believe he is a modern day fascist. I have faith in the Constitution checks and balances. I also believe we can get rid of him in the 2020 election. The House may succeed in impeaching him but he will not be removed from office by impeachment proceedings. He has no business remaining in the WH past his first term.

BigmanPigman

(51,584 posts)
9. Yes, all of them.
Tue Apr 23, 2019, 06:34 PM
Apr 2019

I HATED Reagun, Bush, Bush 2, and now this fucker. I felt sorry for Nixon when he cried when he resigned, I was only 12. My parents told me I's feel sorry for Hitler. My whole family (4 generations) are Dems and we HATE the GOP.

AZ8theist

(5,453 posts)
67. Agreed
Tue Apr 23, 2019, 09:02 PM
Apr 2019

I'm in your shoes only I was a little bit older when Nixon resigned. I didn't realize the impact of that time in our country.
But, like you, hate ALL OF THE MOTHERFUCKING Repukes.

At this time, my anger and hatred of Mitch McConnell is rising to ALMOST the same level as Doturd. The last 2 things the traitorous turtle has said are "medicare for none" and if a Dem is elected president in 2020 he's going to shut the entire legislative process down.
That Russian money grubbing piece of shit needs to come down with stomach cancer real soon.....

BigmanPigman

(51,584 posts)
73. That reminds me of the family Thanksgiving dinner 2017.
Tue Apr 23, 2019, 09:22 PM
Apr 2019

My sister and I were cleaning up in the kitchen and she got so upset over McTurtle I thought she was going to burst into flames. We hate them both equally.

I believe you must be a very kind person for only wishing him stomach cancer. I can't write what I wish for them and their corrupt, evil GOP inhumane monsters without getting the DU jury alerted.

AZ8theist

(5,453 posts)
78. I'm NOT a kind person.....
Tue Apr 23, 2019, 10:07 PM
Apr 2019

I'm the prototypical "evil, godless, baby killing, heathen, liberal ATHEIST!!!!

I'm sure someone from the Reich wing media pointed that out to you....

(Besides, like you, I didn't want to get flagged for saying what I REALLY THOUGHT....)

BigmanPigman

(51,584 posts)
81. My whole family and I are
Tue Apr 23, 2019, 10:52 PM
Apr 2019

atheists too. Maybe that is why I want to nail people now on earth and not wait for some afterlife "being" to take care of karma.

gldstwmn

(4,575 posts)
116. If we can't get rid of McConnell then we need
Wed Apr 24, 2019, 02:48 PM
Apr 2019

to figure out some kind of work around or something. He can't hold democracy hostage.

maxsolomon

(33,310 posts)
15. Not like this.
Tue Apr 23, 2019, 06:42 PM
Apr 2019

GWB was a war criminal, but of limited intellect and comprehension. He didn't WANT to be an asshole.

Trump revels in destruction, in revenge, in punching down. His ego is infinite. He is a corpulent, plastic, vain clown. He exemplifies the binary thinking that is humanity's biggest roadblock. He's the most reprehensible American I know of.

I will rejoice when he dies of a stroke on his golden toilet.

bearsfootball516

(6,377 posts)
19. I always viewed GWB as a dumbass with good intentions.
Tue Apr 23, 2019, 06:49 PM
Apr 2019

He did love America and did what he thought was best.

Problem was, what he thought was best was horribly, horribly wrong and he was manipulated tremendously.

gldstwmn

(4,575 posts)
117. This. When I see him now I actually like the guy.
Wed Apr 24, 2019, 02:56 PM
Apr 2019

I like the fact that post presidency he works with vets from the war he started for no god damn reason. This is when I start to dislike him again. I hate Ronnie Raygun for dismantling the middle class. But this one... this one I actually feel a loathing when I see him that later embarrasses me. I don't wish him any physical harm just to be gone from office. I fear he has done/will do irreparable harm to our country, our democracy, our way of life.

wryter2000

(46,036 posts)
130. I'm with you
Wed Apr 24, 2019, 04:57 PM
Apr 2019

I don't wish him harm. I just want him and his entire corrupt family GONE so I never have to see or hear them or about them again.

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,673 posts)
22. I think you've made an interesting distinction.
Tue Apr 23, 2019, 06:55 PM
Apr 2019

Previous bad presidents didn't set out to be assholes and then revel in it (well, maybe Nixon did, but not all the time). Trump likes being an asshole. He's a nihilist who just wants to tear everything down so as to build up his own hopelessly needy ego.

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,673 posts)
17. I couldn't abide either Nixon or Reagan, and I disdained Bush II as a sorry dimwit,
Tue Apr 23, 2019, 06:48 PM
Apr 2019

but I have to say Trump tops them all by orders of magnitude. I hate him with the fire of a thousand suns and hope I live long enough to do the samba on his grave, even though I consider grave-dancing to be extremely tacky in most cases (I'll also do a little two-step on Cheney if that's possible). Maybe that intensity of loathing is bad for one's karma, not to mention blood pressure, and I realize that we should have compassion for all sentient beings, but he's a real doozy when it comes to the possibility of finding any redeeming value in either his blighted soul or his blubbery orange carcass, other than fertilizer.

3catwoman3

(23,971 posts)
32. I'm not sure Trump qualifies as...
Tue Apr 23, 2019, 07:31 PM
Apr 2019

...a sentient being. And, he has NO redeeming qualities - Not. A. Single. One.

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,673 posts)
33. He does respond to some stimuli, and his behavior can be modified
Tue Apr 23, 2019, 07:35 PM
Apr 2019

by offers of KFC and chocolate cake, so he could probably be classified as sentient in the same sense as a fish. Fish, however, do have redeeming qualities, even if those are usually just culinary.

 

thegoose

(3,115 posts)
18. Yeah, Murder Monkey (Shrub) and Darth Cheney
Tue Apr 23, 2019, 06:48 PM
Apr 2019

I couldn't believe he was elected when it happened. But of course the Pukes cheated. Then Darth Cheney and the Bolton fuck encouraged him to kill thousands of innocent people in a phony war after 9/11, an event that was perpetrated by the Saudis that the Bush Crime Family was in bed with.

But this is even worse. The bloated orange fuck is being given carte blanche to do whatever he wants to American citizens. He owes the Russians big time and is drunk with power and hate. God knows what his cowering party of shitbags will let him do. Pootie fucking approves.

TheCowsCameHome

(40,168 posts)
23. No, not like this.
Tue Apr 23, 2019, 07:05 PM
Apr 2019

Dick Cheney (I know, VP) was high on my shit list, but this sickening clown is well beyond my feelings for him.

barbtries

(28,787 posts)
24. yes.
Tue Apr 23, 2019, 07:08 PM
Apr 2019

nixon, reagan, gw.
but none with the rage and frustration i experience with this one, and all of the republican traitors who aid and abet him.

bdamomma

(63,836 posts)
25. I hate him
Tue Apr 23, 2019, 07:13 PM
Apr 2019

and I hope that he pays dearly. He is a vile evil man, plus he is unfit and mentally unwell.

jalan48

(13,859 posts)
26. Reagan. Watching an ex movie actor fool working people with his voodoo economics and his evil
Tue Apr 23, 2019, 07:19 PM
Apr 2019

war in Central America put me in a rage. He was a real tool of the MIC.

Yeehah

(4,585 posts)
29. With the exception of Gerald Ford,
Tue Apr 23, 2019, 07:23 PM
Apr 2019

I have hated every republican president since Nixon. They have waged war against working people and committed acts of great evil against the people of other nations.

50 Shades Of Blue

(9,975 posts)
31. I loathed Nixon, Reagan, and GWB with every fiber of my being.
Tue Apr 23, 2019, 07:29 PM
Apr 2019

I mean I HATED them. I still do. Trump doesn't make them seem any less loathsome. I considered and still consider them all venal, vile, hypocritical, criminal monsters.

But I don't even know how to characterize how much I loathe Trump.

GoCubsGo

(32,079 posts)
36. Yes. Reagan and both Bushes.
Tue Apr 23, 2019, 07:45 PM
Apr 2019

I was only a tween when Nixon was President. I knew he was an awful person, but I was still too young to understand exactly why at that point. I probably would have hated him, as well, if I were old enough to know better. I hate GWB, because his administration is directly responsible for destroying my career, and pretty much ruining my life. I hope that fucker, and everyone associated with him rots in Hell. Which is where his shitbag parents undoubtedly reside, currently, along with Brain-dead Ronnie. Fuck them all. Trump makes the lot of them look less contemptible, but they are all still vile excuses for human beings.

BlueStater

(7,596 posts)
37. Yes, I hated GWB.
Tue Apr 23, 2019, 07:46 PM
Apr 2019

He should be rotting away in prison for the rest of his miserable life instead of enjoying his retirement in luxury.

But that doesn't come anywhere close to the level of intensity in which I hate the orange shitgibbon. I despised Bush, but I never wished violence upon him. Trump, on the other hand, I actively wish would die.

mainstreetonce

(4,178 posts)
38. I despised W
Tue Apr 23, 2019, 07:50 PM
Apr 2019

But it was in his role as president.
He wasn't a despicable person.

I have learned to like him as a person.
I will never have any like or respect for Trump.

Maven

(10,533 posts)
39. Yes, I hated GWB.
Tue Apr 23, 2019, 07:51 PM
Apr 2019

But what I feel about Trump and Trumpism reaches a different level. It's not just hate, it's utter disgust. I despise everything about him. There is no humanity about him.

BlueTsunami2018

(3,490 posts)
40. I thought I did but it was nothing like the burning Sith Lord hatred I have for this motherfucker.
Tue Apr 23, 2019, 07:51 PM
Apr 2019

The Chimp inspired disgust, embarrassment and contempt that I thought was hate but it’s nothing like this, not even close. It sickens me that I can feel like this. It’s a terrible feeling. I could watch these people torn apart by wolves and feel nothing but satisfaction. That’s not who I am and I hate them even more for doing this to me. I hate him, I hate his sycophants, I hate everything about this situation.

CrispyQ

(36,457 posts)
44. Yes. I hated Bush.
Tue Apr 23, 2019, 08:00 PM
Apr 2019

But I never wished him dead like I do the pile of shit in the office right now. Every morning I ask my husband, "Did the fucker die last night?"

UTUSN

(70,681 posts)
124. The 3 (before SHITLER) : Tricky Dick, RAYGUN, Shrub. The 1/2: Poppy.
Wed Apr 24, 2019, 04:45 PM
Apr 2019

As others have said, SHITLER makes the BUSHes pale a bit by comparison, which I find hard to believe, but the other two make a 3-way of hate, in my book.






Wawannabe

(5,641 posts)
47. I did hate Bush 2
Tue Apr 23, 2019, 08:18 PM
Apr 2019

And Darth Cheney. But damn. Nothing like this resident. He IS NOT the president tho.
Just sayin.

rurallib

(62,406 posts)
48. I hated Nixon from the 1950s to the end. And his criminal VP -
Tue Apr 23, 2019, 08:35 PM
Apr 2019

what a fucking pair -
But these two are much worse.

kimbutgar

(21,127 posts)
50. I was not interested in politics until bush but now fat Donnie makes him look like a statesman
Tue Apr 23, 2019, 08:43 PM
Apr 2019

I couldn’t stand bush but I begrudgingly supported him as president. Now no friggin way wool is support the pos on the Whitehouse. He is a traitor to our constitution. And the Russian interference in his favor is Benedict Arnold level. iMHO.

nini

(16,672 posts)
51. I thought I hated W but not even close to what I feel now
Tue Apr 23, 2019, 08:46 PM
Apr 2019

I don't even have the words to describe my feelings regarding that nazi traitor.


LibDemAlways

(15,139 posts)
52. I hated Bush Jr., still do, but
Tue Apr 23, 2019, 08:47 PM
Apr 2019

never considered him a legit. President. Hate Cheney, too. Evil personified. Trump is just a big orange turd, impossible not to hate him as well.

dottie66

(59 posts)
54. I do hate Trump and since the election my anxiety and stress levels have gone way up.
Tue Apr 23, 2019, 08:48 PM
Apr 2019

Imagine thinking of one of the vilest people on earth every day. That has to do something to your health.

yaesu

(8,020 posts)
55. Cheney is the closest POS to tRump, even though he was VP he ran things for jr
Tue Apr 23, 2019, 08:48 PM
Apr 2019

I think I would have included Andrew Jackson on that list if I was alive back then. Reagan pretty close.

 

Awsi Dooger

(14,565 posts)
57. I despised Reagan, and Bush largely because of Cheney
Tue Apr 23, 2019, 08:50 PM
Apr 2019

Reagan was the most dangerous type of Republican because he could pretend he actually cared about everyday Americans, and they were stupid enough to believe it. At that point I thought we might have a string of Republicans out of the same mold, and gobbling up 55% of the presidential vote.

Trump actually had the same potential but he was too stupid and evil to realize it, or care. He's got the same type of celebrity teflon as Reagan.

My hatred of Bush obviously increased based on how he got into office, and then everything to do with Iraq and every word/facial expression from Dick Cheney.

Prior to Trump I hated Cheney more than any politician of my lifetime.

marlakay

(11,449 posts)
62. It might help your hate to read about his childhood
Tue Apr 23, 2019, 08:57 PM
Apr 2019

I have compassion for child Trump not adult Trump it was up to him to get help for his major issues caused by his upbringing. Looking at all the early photos though he looked like spoiled rich kid, not exactly ripe for therapy.

In a class I was taking last week a psychologist was talking about his mom when he was two had her last child and got very ill needing many surgeries and he was basically abandoned at two then sent to military school at young age. Father out of country.

Peace06

(248 posts)
63. Hating the president
Tue Apr 23, 2019, 08:57 PM
Apr 2019

I disagreed with some, but never thought they were harming this country. I never thought they were not patriots.
But, we have never had a crazed, evil, career criminal as a president. We have never had a president elected by Russia. We never had a president who through nefarious means controlled their party. We never had a Senate or a president trying to break laws instead of upholding the law. I could go on and on, but you know it already! One last thought, we never had a president who put children in cages or separated babies from their mothers.

yellowcanine

(35,699 posts)
66. Nixon
Tue Apr 23, 2019, 09:02 PM
Apr 2019

And I was pissed when Ford pardoned him. Just on principle dude should have been locked up for a while.

MaryMagdaline

(6,853 posts)
68. God, yes. W. Hated him beyond what I thought I could endure
Tue Apr 23, 2019, 09:02 PM
Apr 2019

Not over the Iraq War, torture, the death of innocents, lying us into war. Blatant evil

AlexSFCA

(6,137 posts)
72. GWB killed more people
Tue Apr 23, 2019, 09:20 PM
Apr 2019

I always try to find positives in anything. And yes, there is even a silver lining in trump’s presidency. People woke up. I never blamed trump for anything - I always blamed those who didn’t and don’t vote - they deserve trump and much worse. So do not hate trump, hate the non-voters. Trump is not a result of faux news, he is a result of non-voters

Javaman

(62,517 posts)
74. it started with nixon, then ray-gun, then poppy asshole, george w. moron and now the orange asshole
Tue Apr 23, 2019, 09:24 PM
Apr 2019

need I say more?

77. I despised GW Bush - in fact, his re-election in 2004 permanently calloused me.
Tue Apr 23, 2019, 09:52 PM
Apr 2019

I have never been able to feel quite the same level of passion for politics that I did prior to election night 2004 - that's how much W's re-election pissed me off.

happybird

(4,604 posts)
80. No, never.
Tue Apr 23, 2019, 10:50 PM
Apr 2019

I think this is the first time I've ever really hated someone. It scares me sometimes how much anger, disgust, and contempt I feel for him, especially considering the fact I've never even met the guy.

Thought I hated Cheney, but now think I didn't know what real hatred actually felt like. Even my gem *cough* of an ex doesn't make me feel anything near the level of abhorrence I feel for dump, or the resentment and hostility I feel towards his idiotic supporters. I'm a pretty laid back person and, before 2016, I would have sworn that it's just not in my nature to feel these very negative emotions so strongly. And I hate feeling this way.

As others have said, I can't stand to hear him speak and have to turn the channel when he comes on. I've been having anxiety issues for the past two years. It's exhausting. This shit ain't normal. I am ashamed and embarrassed for all my fellow Americans.

Skittles

(153,147 posts)
86. yes, I hated Duyba - still do
Tue Apr 23, 2019, 11:49 PM
Apr 2019

I find any whitewashing of that thieving, lying, warmongering bastard when compared to Trump utterly SICKENING

Martin Eden

(12,863 posts)
88. I hated GW Bush with a passion. He is a war criminal.
Wed Apr 24, 2019, 07:15 AM
Apr 2019

In the wake of 9-11 GW had 90% support, and I was among them. Then he and Cheney and the PNAC neocons launched their fraudulent war of choice in Iraq.

Bush manipulated the fear, grief, anger, and patriotism of the American people with a deliberate campaign of lies to lead our nation into a war that cost more than twice as many American lives as 9-11, $trillions of dollars, and up to a million lives in a region that has been engulfed in war ever since.

It was the most egregious betrayal of public trust by a US president in our nation's history.

The so-called "war on terror" recruited the next generation of hardened terrorists, perpetuating and worsening this threat.

It absolutely sickens me every time I see this war criminal treated with honor and privilege instead of brought before The Hague and imprisoned, which is what he deserves.

Trump is a much more loathsome creature who is dividing the American people and doing real damage, but he has yet to match GW Bush for sheer volume of death and destruction.

lastlib

(23,208 posts)
89. Yeah I hate 'em all.
Wed Apr 24, 2019, 07:16 AM
Apr 2019

I lost a chance to get a law degree b/c of that sonofabitchReagan, Nixon was Nixon, Daddy Bush, was a pompous ass who only wanted to enrich his pals, W was/is a war criminal and gave us Cheney. and tRump is a living crime-wave.

I hate 'em all.

Ike was OK, though--for a general.

murielm99

(30,733 posts)
98. Interesting.
Wed Apr 24, 2019, 11:59 AM
Apr 2019

I have been ashamed to admit that I pray for his death every day. I used to pray for Obama's safety. I was afraid the haters would kill him. What am I now? Who am I?

 

UniteFightBack

(8,231 posts)
136. I know I felt kinda bad....
Wed Apr 24, 2019, 06:36 PM
Apr 2019

when I just read my own post. Ya know what...since I've sunk so low I may as well throw Mitchy on that wish list too.


When I start feeling bad about my evil thoughts regarding rump I just think of his 'family separation policy' and I suddenly don't feel so bad anymore . Of course there are many other skank deeds to think of, but really that one alone does it.

VOX

(22,976 posts)
91. In order: 1) tRump; 2) Nixon & Reagan (tie); 3) Bush II & Bush I (tie)
Wed Apr 24, 2019, 07:56 AM
Apr 2019

Ford, not so much, except for being the clod who gave Nixon his undeserved pardon.

Nitram

(22,791 posts)
94. YES!!!!! I hated Nixon, Reagan and Bush Jr. They frightened me and all my liberal friends.
Wed Apr 24, 2019, 11:22 AM
Apr 2019

They played the race card for political gain, lied to us, defied the Constitution, were responsible for the deaths of thousands, or hundreds of thousands, of innocent people.

Texin

(2,594 posts)
95. I hated Nixon, loathed Ray-gun, Bush Sr. and reviled W, i.e., Cheney's & Rumsfeld puppet.
Wed Apr 24, 2019, 11:42 AM
Apr 2019

But I hate Shitler with such roiling vitriol that he makes me physically ill (I'm talking actual sick anxiety in the pit of my stomach that grows greater with every passing day -- especially within the last couple of days).

Shitler is the absolute worst thing that's ever been visited on this country in its entire history in my opinion (and we've had some doozies historically), Following him so close he's about physically attached to tRump's ass is Mitch McConnell, who would not be able to do what he's doing now without Shitler and the rest of the rethugs who are a bunch of ideological robber barons masquerading as Evangelical heroes of the so-called religious *right*.

I want nothing but hell on Earth for the whole lot of them. I feel more and more each day that I'm living in the middle of what serious-minded people within Germany and Europe were experiencing during the build-up and rule of the Nazi Reich. We are all living in ideological evil hell and for now, there appears to be no remedy for it except divine intervention.

sop

(10,155 posts)
99. I'm haunted by the prospect Trump will never suffer any consequences
Wed Apr 24, 2019, 12:52 PM
Apr 2019

If this evil piece of human excrement comes out unscathed in the end, it will clearly demonstrate there is absolutely no justice in this world. If Trump skates, untouched, unimpeached and re-elected, all the religious and moral claptrap about reaping what one sows, paying for one's sins and just retribution will ring completely hollow.

I'm resigned to the possibility we'll see a few high schools named after Trump, mostly in backwaters like Bug Tussle, Texas, where he's still adored. Perhaps a state highway, or two, in Oklahoma or Alabama. It's bad enough that Bibi wants to name an Israeli settlement after the guy.

Still, I don't want any Trump Presidential Library in NYC, government buildings bearing his name in DC, or a tacky State funeral at the National Cathedral, where his plastic whore of a wife and Sweet Lindsey Graham will deliver tearful eulogies. Let's not have any media rehabilitation efforts to humanize the man, endless panel discussions about Trump's presidential legacy, or talking heads declaring a Trump Dynasty whenever his vapid daughter makes noises about running for office.

I pray Trump gets what's coming to him, and soon. Should he suffer a massive stroke - leaving him incapable of speech or movement, yet fully capable of comprehension, having his soiled diapers changed by a group of angry, undocumented Central American immigrant women - I wouldn't shed a tear. May God help me for writing this.

heckles65

(549 posts)
100. I didn't like GW Bush, but I could have lived with him as my next door neighbor.
Wed Apr 24, 2019, 01:18 PM
Apr 2019

Same as Mitt Romney, who I definitely didn't like.

I wouldn't want Donald Trump, or any of his pestilential family, living within a 100 miles of me.

Crunchy Frog

(26,579 posts)
102. I absolutely hated both Bushes.
Wed Apr 24, 2019, 01:21 PM
Apr 2019

I probably felt it more intensely with them because I've gone sort of numb under Trump.

Azathoth

(4,607 posts)
105. I think Dubya changed the playing field
Wed Apr 24, 2019, 01:34 PM
Apr 2019

Reagan and Bush Sr. did loathsome things, but they came across as fundamentally decent people who had sincere ideas on what was best for the country. Dubya's use of 9/11 as a political sledgehammer to start an unrelated war was something different, something straight out of the worst excesses of Soviet-bloc police states. That was the first time a lot of Democrats, myself included, shifted from political disagreement to outright hatred.

Martin Eden

(12,863 posts)
142. "shifted from political disagreement to outright hatred"
Thu Apr 25, 2019, 01:52 PM
Apr 2019

W did that to me as well. When he left office I wrote this poem for what I'd like to say to his face:

I'd tell you to go fuck yourself
But that is much to kind
Because if you could perform that feat
You'd take pleasure in your behind

I'd like to say eat shit and die
But you deserve much more
You should suffer all the grief and pain
Of your misbegotten war

Though I can never make you think
Or feel, or understand
I'll take solace when you hear your name
Cursed throughout the land

From inside a lonely prison cell
Dark and bare and cold
Where every day you pay for your crimes
Until you're sick, heartbroken, and old

When you finally leave the earth
You fucked over oh so well
If there is a God and afterlife
You're going straight to hell

yardwork

(61,588 posts)
106. I feel exactly the same way.
Wed Apr 24, 2019, 01:35 PM
Apr 2019

I hate Trump - really hate him - in a way I've never felt toward any other president. Separating children from their parents was it for me.

qazplm135

(7,447 posts)
107. none of them were so fundamentally without virtue
Wed Apr 24, 2019, 01:37 PM
Apr 2019

I mean even at a base level Reagan and Bush loved their wives and children. Does anyone really think Trump does?

I think both Reagan and Bush were capable of shame. They cared about at least the appearance of lawfulness.

shanti

(21,675 posts)
110. Not until this one
Wed Apr 24, 2019, 02:12 PM
Apr 2019

W was an idiot, but he wasn't crass and wasn't constantly attacking people in public. AND he didn't use Twitter as his personal platform. I could go on...My sister sent me a small stuffed W doll, a gag gift, when W was in office. I imagine some stuck pins in it. Maybe they should make one for Chump. Ever since he has been in office, I've had HBP, and I never did before.

I did hate Cheney though. The man made my blood run cold.

flotsam

(3,268 posts)
112. Nixon was my first.
Wed Apr 24, 2019, 02:30 PM
Apr 2019

Started angry about Vietnam but became an incandescent hate when his treason at the peace talks was exposed. Reagan was despicable and treasonous and when he murdered the PATCO union he became #2. GHWB I merely disliked as an Iran-Contra war criminal. GWB I hated by the time the Brooks Bros riot was exposed and never found a single reason to modify my hate. And now Trump...

That's half a century of republican presidents and their very finest example of moral rectitude, the only one I didn't actually hate ran death squads in Central and South America.

In my lifetime only Eisenhower was elected without fraud and served without scandal. So yes, I've hated most. But not a single one undeservedly.

JustAnotherGen

(31,810 posts)
113. Nope - and I don't now
Wed Apr 24, 2019, 02:34 PM
Apr 2019

VP Cheney I hated.

I don't hate the 45. I don't assign humanity to it. It is not a "someone" so I can't hate it. It's like the Hitler to me. Pol Pot. Etc Etc

Rambling Man

(249 posts)
118. I've made a lot of progress
Wed Apr 24, 2019, 02:59 PM
Apr 2019

in living past my anger and violence, I can't let anyone move me into a PTSD trigger.

But I really feel more anger than hatred toward any republican president and how glibly they just gloss over what it means to be an American.

I can't allow something like hatred to fester in my soul. Life is waaayyyy too short.

Buzz cook

(2,471 posts)
121. Just Nixon, Reagan, Bush one and Bush two.
Wed Apr 24, 2019, 03:27 PM
Apr 2019

All of them were murderous bastards worthy of execution. The death tole was in the thousands and tens of thousands. Wholesale slaughter was the norm for all these men.

That doesn't even include the human rights abuses fostered by all these men which also in many cases led to thousands of deaths.

If that's not worthy of hatred what is?

hunter

(38,310 posts)
123. Sometimes I like to think my hatred of Ronald Reagan contributed in some small part to...
Wed Apr 24, 2019, 04:38 PM
Apr 2019

... the ugliness of his demise.

I wouldn't wish dementia on my worst enemy.

Or maybe I would.

Reagan was lucky in one way.

He didn't die pants full of shit next to the dumpsters behind some dollar store.

Reagan was our first meat puppet Republican President.

All the Republican Presidents since have been meat puppets of various sorts.

Trump and Pence are meat puppets of the most vile sort, cobbled together by demonic forces of bullshit, factory farm meat waste, spilled blood, and crusty semen soaked gym socks.




wryter2000

(46,036 posts)
125. I hated GW Bush
Wed Apr 24, 2019, 04:51 PM
Apr 2019

He started a war for no reason except to make himself a "war president." It resulted in the deaths of untold numbers of Iraqis and thousands of US service people.

And he tortured people.

I utterly despised Reagan. I don't know if that's hate or not.

Needless to say, I hate the Orange Menace.

spanone

(135,819 posts)
126. Nixon, Reagan, Bush, Bush, Trump.
Wed Apr 24, 2019, 04:51 PM
Apr 2019

and this is mostly from a policy standpoint. I guess if we figure in assholery and blatant disregard for anything, I hate trump more than the others X100

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meadowlander

(4,394 posts)
131. Yes, GWB.
Wed Apr 24, 2019, 05:05 PM
Apr 2019

He and his administration should never have been let off the hook in 2008. That's a big part of what has been emboldening Mitch McConnell and Trump.

pnwmom

(108,976 posts)
138. I've been frustrated and angry and so glad-to-see-them-gone, but no, not pure loathing before.
Thu Apr 25, 2019, 02:10 AM
Apr 2019

I haven't hated another President so much I couldn't stand to hear his voice on TV. I didn't wake up every morning wondering what new hell had opened up overnight.

Maru Kitteh

(28,339 posts)
139. I thought I hated Dubya
Thu Apr 25, 2019, 02:10 AM
Apr 2019

This fucking monster actually makes Dubya seem like the memory of a comparatively mild case of noro - whilst this bat rastard is like enduring a root canal without anesthesia, walking over a mix of rock salt and broken glass and then removing ones own nails with an exacto one slice at a time.

This one, I hate. No doubts, no qualms, no shame.

lark

(23,091 posts)
140. I totally hated GW Bush and still do.
Thu Apr 25, 2019, 09:17 AM
Apr 2019

He's a lying rw worm who subverted American democracy for his own profit and who killed millions in Iraq for the same reason.

JonLP24

(29,322 posts)
143. I hated Bush
Thu Apr 25, 2019, 01:53 PM
Apr 2019

I blame him for the mess we have today + the endless war is his fault too. Fuck Bush & Trump.

BigDemVoter

(4,149 posts)
145. FUUUCK yes. . .
Thu Apr 25, 2019, 01:57 PM
Apr 2019

1. Reagan-- stupid, senile asshole
2. George H.W. Bush: Entitled asshole
3. George W Bush: Entitled, stupid, and aggressive asshole
4. Pussy Grabber. . . . I hate him the MOST. . . .

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