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Dumb question. Can the IRS be subpoenaed to get dRump's taxes? (Original Post) maveric Apr 2019 OP
Yes and they can be found in contemp of congress and jailed. vsrazdem Apr 2019 #1
No one has ever gone to jail for contempt of congress. briv1016 Apr 2019 #8
Not exactly, surely not simple. elleng Apr 2019 #2
But it is possible? maveric Apr 2019 #3
That's the effect of Neal's latest letter. He'll be defying Congress OnDoutside Apr 2019 #4
My friend thanks you. maveric Apr 2019 #5
And possible pardon? bluestarone Apr 2019 #6
Rettig would be a fool to go down that line. That would mean he OnDoutside Apr 2019 #7
I agree BUT bluestarone Apr 2019 #9
I don't see where the Senate can block a House committee ? OnDoutside Apr 2019 #11
The Internal Revenue Code Sgent Apr 2019 #10
Which is reasonable. Igel Apr 2019 #12

elleng

(131,374 posts)
2. Not exactly, surely not simple.
Sat Apr 13, 2019, 02:41 PM
Apr 2019

The Internal Revenue Service is the revenue service of the United States federal government. The government agency is a bureau of the Department of the Treasury, and is under the immediate direction of the Commissioner of Internal Revenue, who is appointed to a five-year term by the President of the United States.

OnDoutside

(19,986 posts)
4. That's the effect of Neal's latest letter. He'll be defying Congress
Sat Apr 13, 2019, 03:16 PM
Apr 2019

if he doesn't meet the April 23rd deadline, and can go to jail for that.

OnDoutside

(19,986 posts)
7. Rettig would be a fool to go down that line. That would mean he
Sat Apr 13, 2019, 03:24 PM
Apr 2019

committed a crime, and his career is over....all for a traitor who will burn him.

OnDoutside

(19,986 posts)
11. I don't see where the Senate can block a House committee ?
Sat Apr 13, 2019, 05:24 PM
Apr 2019
Under Section 6103 of our tax code, Treasury officials “shall” turn over the tax returns “upon written request” of the chair of either congressional tax committee or the federal employee who runs Congress's Joint Committee on Taxation. No request has ever been refused, a host of former congressional tax aides tell me.

There is, however, a law requiring every federal “employee” who touches the tax system to do their duty or be removed from office.

The crystal-clear language of this law applies to Trump, acting White House Chief of Staff Mick Mulvaney, Mnuchin and Rettig, federal employees all.

The law says all of them "shall" be removed from office if they fail to comply with the request from Representative Richard Neal, the Massachusetts Democrat who chairs the House Ways and Means Committee.


There are no qualifiers in Section 6103 that shield Trump from delivering, in confidence, his tax returns to Congress. No wiggle room at all.

Another provision in our tax code, Section 7214(a), provides that “Any officer or employee of the United States acting in connection with any revenue law of the United States… who with intent to defeat the application of any provision of this title fails to perform any of the duties of his office or employment… shall be dismissed from office or discharged from employment and, upon conviction thereof, shall be fined not more than $10,000, or imprisoned not more than 5 years or both.”

All that Neal must do is make a request in writing that falls within the committee’s tax law and IRS oversight duties. Neal’s carefully articulated reasoning and requests for specific tax returns and related tax information in his April 3 letter easily meets that standard.

Congress earlier applied this law to Richard Nixon, who resigned in disgrace after a second audit of his returns showed he was a major league tax cheat. Nixon fabricated deductions worth more than $3.4 million in today’s money. Nixon got off with a pardon, while his tax lawyer went to prison.




https://www.thedailybeast.com/heres-the-law-that-requires-steven-mnuchin-to-turn-over-trumps-taxes-or-lose-his-office-and-go-to-prison

Sgent

(5,857 posts)
10. The Internal Revenue Code
Sat Apr 13, 2019, 03:43 PM
Apr 2019

also requires them to release any requested tax return to the Chairman of the House and Senate committee that has primary jurisdiction. That said, courts have construed other laws like these (and subpoenas) to requiring a legislative purpose.

Igel

(35,387 posts)
12. Which is reasonable.
Sat Apr 13, 2019, 07:40 PM
Apr 2019

Otherwise at some point one of those authorized to requisition the returns would requisition a prospective future in-law's, a son's business rival's, or a neighbor's.

The laws have a purpose.

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