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ck4829

(35,040 posts)
Sat Apr 6, 2019, 09:27 PM Apr 2019

What if it's less Russia colluded with Trump, and more the American ultra right used Russian power?

Not saying Trump-Russian collusion didn't happen, but I'm starting to think that as bad as Putin is, as bad as his regime is, it's just another pawn.

I'm talking about the group that saw the "upcoming war on Iraq" as part of the end times
I'm talking about the group that sees surviving school shootings as "socialism"
I'm talking about the group that ran Iran-Contra and destroyed Inslaw
I'm talking about the group that heckled with "Yeah!" when the question was about letting someone without health insurance die long before Russians propped up Trump
I'm talking about that Reagan admin fixer Oliver North who is now leading the NRA
I'm talking about that Reagan admin fixer Elliott Abrams who is now in the Trump White House leading Venezuelan policy
I'm talking about that 33%.

We like to talk about Russian bots, Russian manipulation, Russian influence, and so on. But what if it was mutual? What if there was some influence on Russia as much as it influenced the rest of the world?

The name of the game is nationalism; we're seeing it in the US, in Russia, in Brazil, in Hungary, in Israel. Israel has occupied the West Bank and the Golan Heights, with the latter the Trump admin plans to recognize as Israeli and with the former Netanyahu himself has said he plans to annex.

Now go over to Russia which has claimed areas in Georgia and Ukraine with military force (It's an occupation) and is deploying soldiers in Venezuela... which of course the US here does not recognize.

I think we're going to reach a flash point sooner rather than later with these two permanent UN security council members each backing and involving themselves in separate causes that have similar backgrounds. There's going to be a winner and a loser here and it's going to put a very dark mark on that security council of the UN... which just happens to be a very big bugaboo for that ultra right which hates multiculturalism and transnational entities like the UN.

Our ultra right.

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What if it's less Russia colluded with Trump, and more the American ultra right used Russian power? (Original Post) ck4829 Apr 2019 OP
All of the above. dogman Apr 2019 #1
Anything is Possible dlk Apr 2019 #2
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