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WWII didn't destroy the world's evil. The Civil Rights and Voting Rights Acts were meant to isolate evil. Our governmental institutions exist to supposedly protect us from evil.
So what happened? Why are we now teetering on the edge of our human rights being stolen from us? Why are we on the verge of becoming a country in which evil is the normal state of reality?
Here's my opinion. The Republican Party has spent decades trying to steal our rights from us. They have spent decades enriching themselves at the cost of the middle class and the poor. One of their biggest heroes is Ronald Reagan who was a master at peddling shit that the masses ate up, never realizing they were screwing themselves.
And finally, a horrible accident happened. Donald Trump became president. The Republican Party had found a fool who would pass most of their demented goals: huge tax breaks for the wealthy; wingnut judges at every level of the judiciary; the destruction of government oversight of business, industry, and the presidency itself. They allowed these things to happen while tolerating the insanity that accompanied it. They know that the creature is insane. They know his wall is a mental delusion. They know that Fox "news' controls his agenda, (whatever it is on any given day). They know the man is perhaps one of the biggest financial criminals in the history of the world. And they also know he can end up destroying our democracy.
But for some reason, they don't give a shit. They're getting what they want and the rest is "collateral damage." They are ruling for the moment and don't care about what comes next. They are enriching themselves and, evidently, don't give a flying fuck about the world they are leaving for their children, or even if their grandchildren are stuck living in a "Mad Max" world.
So, in America at least, Trump has unleashed the evil that has been lurking and waiting. And that evil is called the Republican Party and their current orange lord and master.
Eyeball_Kid
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FM123
(10,054 posts)So disgustingly true.
50 Shades Of Blue
(10,110 posts)The Wizard
(12,556 posts)Cyrano
(15,076 posts)cilla4progress
(24,802 posts)a long time ago: "good Germans."
The scariest thing is the normalization of hate, genocide, war.
certainot
(9,090 posts)there have always been rich elites trying to destroy democracy - democracy was designed to limit and regulate authoritarians influence and power.
after reagan killed the fairness doctrine in 87 the right created a 20-1 political talk radio monopoly and democrats ignored it completely. 1500 think tank coordinated radio stations with limbaugh on 600 of the loudest as messaging point man and tone-setter. it completely dominates 40 states with 80 senators, moving the whole country right by 10-20 pts and the political writers and journalists continue to analyze politics as if it doesn't exist. dem party doesn't even poll for it and we let 88 universities broadcast sports on 260 limbaugh stations - basically endorsing daily global warming denial, public school defunding, attacks on AOC, omar, and weighing in on who they think the media should pick as the dem candidate.
trump is the talk radio candidate - the trump team studied 1000s of hours of it in 2014 - possibly to help coordinate with russian troll ops - they needed content and most of the most successful memes piggybacked established talk radio lies
it's the only real advantage trump and the cons have and the left continues tie biggest political mistake in history- ignoring it. it's also incredibly vulnerable because with very little protest and boycott action the ad industry would get the message that artificial intelligence allows talk radio to be digitized and requires them to start asking theior clients if they really want to support trump and global warming denial.
Blues Heron
(5,954 posts)Agree 100%
TxVietVet
(1,905 posts)The conservanazis care nothing about our democratic republic. All they care about is that they have the power over the US and the ability to loot, rape the environment and pillage our country with impunity.
Cyrano
(15,076 posts)battling them. We form organizations to fight back. We attack them with law suits that will take dozens of years to be resolved. We write brilliant op-eds that we believe will "destroy" their ideology. We elect "heroes."
But they really don't give a flying shit about any of it. They control all the levers of power. And they control too many Republican appointed judges at virtually every level of the judiciary.
Why don't most people understand that we are owned. Even though we are the majority.
Republicans have stolen the government. Voter suppression, "lost votes," gerrymandering, Russian assistance, misinformation on voting places, phone calls giving wrong voting dates: These are just some of the things that are done by Republicans. We don't play that way. And the bottom line is that we get fucked. They end up owning the state and federal governments. We end up eating dirt.
Will we ever learn?
BlancheSplanchnik
(20,219 posts)We have being Right, as in Correct, but it takes millions more eyes to open, I fearEyes of people in any position to have an impact, I guess is whats needed. Too many Eyes are currently owned by FuKKKs Newz, I also fear.
certainot
(9,090 posts)and artificial intelligence dooms the talk radio monopoly - it can now be digitized and monitored and it's advertisers easily listed and associated with the trump support and global warming denial and attacks on liberal democrats we claim to support- with little listening required.
it doesn't have to be invisible any more and the ad industry is going to have to start asking it's clients if they REALLY want to be shuffled onto republican radio stations that deny global warming and support trump and attack AOC and omar all day
the 20-1 monopoly will fall apart as soon as the dems and left do a little protesting and boycotting to get their attention
instead we continue the biggest political mistake in history - ignoring trump's only real advantage
BlancheSplanchnik
(20,219 posts)They are treasonous poison ☠️
Lonestarblue
(10,170 posts)Education is the key to getting people to understand whats real and what is just madeup crap to support the Republican Party. The Republican Party began their campaign to become the party of permanent rule years ago, starting with local takeover of school boards, mayors, and state legislatures. Using propaganda to create racism and resentment toward poor people and nonwhitesall lazy and undeserving of state and federal tax money in any formthey gained control of many states and gerrymandered the hell out of them.
They took over state boards of education and suddenly were teaching creationism instead of evolution. Were teaching the use of natural resources for the betterment of mankind rather than the rape of the environment and climate change. Weve changed sex education to abstinence only programs that are just Christian dogma. Were teaching mostly the achievements of white people (the majority of them men) in building this country. Were teaching that slavery wasnt so bad because their owners fed and clothed them, and one history book even avoided the word slave, calling them instead immigrants who came to this country for work. Were not teaching civics or economics in most states. What has replaced those topics is the necessity of unrestrained free market capitalism to provide jobs and success. And were teaching that the US is the most exceptional country on the planet, so just stick with those Republicans and the glory days will last forever.
I wish I had a magic wand to change these things. We can only keep trying, but it is discouraging these days.
NBachers
(17,191 posts)Just look at Trump's non-stop rapid effort to destroy our environment.
marylandblue
(12,344 posts)Of course WWII didn't destroy evil. How could it? Evil is not a thing that exists "out there" like a dragon to be slain, once and for all. It is a part of who we are, even the best of us. Government cannot protect us from evil, because evil resides within it just as it resides win all of us. Government is just a way to mitigate the damage of the worst parts of ourselves. When it fails, it becomes that which we most fear.
Government can't succeed if we don't recognize the evil within, because if we don't, we will project on to the "others" and seek to destroy them, unconsciously becoming that which we hate. It has happened to the Republican Party, and it is happening to us now. It won't end well.
Cyrano
(15,076 posts)Sometimes it gains the upper hand. Often, it is suppressed by human decency.
Perhaps this is a simplistic view, but at the moment, the Republican Party seems to embody the evil that exists in human beings.
That doesn't mean that evil does not exist in Democrats. But in this current era, the Dems seem to be representing the best in humanity and are trying to destroy the evil that is devouring us.
You're saying there are no absolutes and that evil will be with us forever. My hope is that, at some point, the human species will evolve to where evil is a thing of the past.
But in our current era, the Republican Party has turned itself into the embodiment of evil. And Democrats, (and many others), are not perfect, but are doing their best to fight them and return the world to some version of sanity. And most are hoping for the day when evil is vanquished forever.
marylandblue
(12,344 posts)But a fight over what evil is.
"I don't pray that God is on our side, I pray that we are on God's side."
-Abraham Lincoln
cilla4progress
(24,802 posts)dat.
Evil has been and will be with us till the end of time.
That's why it's a recurring theme in literature, religion, myth, history.
LuvLoogie
(7,078 posts)K&R
Mickju
(1,807 posts)world wide wally
(21,762 posts)we can overcome evil and restore sanity to some degree.
kimbutgar
(21,285 posts)Useful idiot President. The institutions we thought would protect have become corrupted and those officials in government who we thought were patriots because ya know only repuke ares patriots are lying, and trying to cover up the midsdeeds of their useful idiot who was put in by a hostile foreign govern,ent because ehtye needed their money to stay in office.
I hope that we survive this but I fear this country will dissolve into chaos and the coasts will secede and a civil war will break out. Im trying to be optimistic and we were lucky to get back the house in 2018 but 2020 will for sure be our last chance to get back the house, senate and presidency. Then it will be game over. We can remove those corrupt judges and go after Gorsuch and Kavanaugh. No more nice guy Democrats in 2020.
Cyrano
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I am as passionate as you are on everything you said. Another Civil Was would be difficult because their are no geographic boundaries. Then again, we could end up with neighbor shooting neighbor or family members killing each other. Seems unlikely.
But Gorshcuh and Kavanagh? Can we get rid of them? I certainly hope so. Supreme Court justices can be impeached, but not without reason. And it will be hard to come up with a reason.
I'm in favor of the idea of expanding the Supreme Court to 15 members: Five chosen by Republican presidents, five chosen by Democratic presidents and the other five unanimously chosen by the other ten.
I'm not holding my breath for this to happen, but it would be the most democratic solution imaginable.
defacto7
(13,485 posts)kimbutgar
(21,285 posts)All his appointments should be nullified. I know there is no remedy in our constitution but the we cant let them stay on the supreme court and be considered legitimate.
Haggis for Breakfast
(6,831 posts)Schlitz Kavanaugh was NOT qualified in the first place.
Even the ABA came out against his nomination, citing him as not qualified for the position. When your own people do not believe you are fit . . . .
pdsimdars
(6,007 posts)calimary
(81,608 posts)Im intrigued. Not familiar with the 3-and-a-half-years thing.
Please elaborate.
pdsimdars
(6,007 posts)The Forty-Two Months (of Rev.11:1-2: This period of time wherein the gentiles will "trample" Jerusalem is, as explained above, a reference to the Great Tribulation (which commences with the seventh trumpet directly after the termination of the two-witness ministry discussed in chapter eleven). Our Lord makes a similar reference to the trampling of Jerusalem by gentiles in Luke 21:24, and tells us that this situation of gentile intrusion and conquest will continue "until the gentiles' times have been fulfilled", that is, until His Second Advent brings antichrist's control of Israel and Jerusalem to a violent and immediate conclusion. It will be useful at this point to summarize the various scriptural designations for the forty-two month time period covered by the Great Tribulation:
In Daniel 7:25, the saints of the Most High (i.e., believers) are said to be handed over into the power of the little horn (i.e., antichrist and the Great Persecution) for "a time, times, and half a time", a biblical way of expressing the three and one half years of the Great Tribulation.
In Daniel 9:26, "the people of the prince which is to come" (i.e., antichrist as the ruler of revived Rome) will make a treaty during the last "seven" and break it in the middle of the "seven", that is, during middle of the seven years at the outset of the Great Tribulation.
In Daniel 12 , the angel speaking with Daniel declares that it will be "a time, times, and half a time" before the persecutions stop and everything comes to an end, that is, the Great Tribulation will last three and one half years.
In Revelation 11:2, the gentiles (i.e., the army of antichrist) will afflict Jerusalem for 42 months, that is, during the entire three and a half year period of the Great Tribulation (albeit under varying circumstances).
In Revelation 12:6, the woman Israel is said to be protected for 1,260 days, that is, during the whole 42 months of the Great Tribulation (expressed in standard 30 day months).
In Revelation 12:14, the woman Israel is said to be protected for a time, times, and half a time, that is, during this same period of the Great Tribulation's three and a half years.
In Revelation 13:5, the unbridled reign of antichrist is said to last for 42 months, that is, for the duration of the Great Tribulation.
YOHABLO
(7,358 posts)Mr.Bill
(24,373 posts)What you say they are seeing as "collateral damage" I think is more like icing on the cake to them.
Ferrets are Cool
(21,117 posts)Other than that, spot on.
grandpamike1
(193 posts)Where we are as a nation is, the cancer that is Rupert Murdoch & Family, the Australian carpet bagger, who sells fear and lies to an accepting public. Fox is but one of the metastasis of this cancer, and it keeps spreading throughout the human race, not only here, but worldwide. The cancer has to be attacked on all fronts, and one of the major ways to do that, is to cost it dearly on their bottom line, across all holdings. There are oligarchs of all stripes, but this one, has to be eradicated first, the others feed off the host.
BlancheSplanchnik
(20,219 posts)In the US, that rupert-evil is expressed as fokkks newz. Of course, it is the repukes perfect indoctrination tool, handily provided by Murdoch. Its insidious and pernicious.
thegoose
(3,115 posts)Even when everyone's dead is fucking insane. And EVIL.
dottie66
(59 posts)I hope the Dem candidates start using this summary too.
Jack-o-Lantern
(975 posts)Auggie
(31,240 posts)Cyrano
(15,076 posts)They don't cooperate. They compete.
Trump was as accident and may well be their stooge. But don't ever believe they are cooperating. They are each trying to use him for their own purposes while continuing to fuck each other.
They're just like him, but not as insane. Each and every one of them wants the same thing. They want to win. Or, as someone back in the '70s or '80s said, "Whoever dies with the most toys wins."
JustAnotherGen
(32,046 posts)What their "interests" are and told them to vote accordingly. Even after that maggot in the White House is gone . . . We will feel it's impact for another generation - due to the GOP voter's slavish devotion to voting for Judges.
Mr Tibbs
(539 posts)He couldn't think of anything. I have had Trumpers on Twitter tell me, "I believe Trump even if I know he's lying". They are brainwashed.
They believe that all reality is explained away as conspiracies, and that all media is lies. The core of Trump supporters have lost their marbles.
Not exaggerating
VOX
(22,976 posts)Excellent crash-course on the historical, inherent evils in Republicanism, from RR to 45.
Well done.
warmfeet
(3,321 posts)to repudiate these assholes.
Vote like your life depends on it.
Your life might depend on it.
jimlup
(7,968 posts)and still fool the poor into thinking that they are defending their "freedom"
It is a sad state and can be fought with knowledge. But that knowledge is hard to relate to those who refuse to hear. That's why I don't know how we should proceed. I guess we keep fighting the good fight. Eventually the truth will be obvious and all who care to see it will know.
Many will not but my hope is that enough will.
JI7
(89,289 posts)samplegirl
(11,530 posts)out of this incredible mess? He contributed much to this wrecking ball. Thats when all the crazies came out!
Aussie105
(5,499 posts)has unleashed the Evil that was lurking in the shadows.
He has made it popular, he has enabled some to act it out.
Once Trump is gone (soon, I hope) it will take decades to push Evil back into the dark places it's always been hiding in.
C_eh_N_eh_D_eh
(2,205 posts)And that's on all of us..