Trump is Losing His Words and Likely His Mind

[dlk]

Watching Trump today struggle to remember his words and being unable to recall and say the word, “origins” was disturbing. He said the word, “oranges” instead, and more than once. He’s obviously incompetent. We are all at risk and the Republicans will continue to stick their heads in the sand.

[machoneman]

1. Yep! It's a sign....

for sure, having witnessed older relatives have somewhat the same issue. Often, when trying to use a specific word, they stumble, then sometimes use another word when clearly the listener expected something else.

Funny though he used oranges! Maybe he does read DU?

[Freethinker65]

2. I believe he has had cognitive decline for some time.

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But the mispronunciation of oranges for origins, then immediately trying to correct it and blowing it again and switching to "beginnings" is not really so horrible. Perhaps it is a word he messes up like Bush and "nuclear"?

There are pronunciations of certain words that I still stumble on and would prefer not to have to say in public.

I would be more concerned with the fact he said his Dad was born in Germany.

[Laura PourMeADrink]

21. That is true...that he could equate origins to

"beginnings" means that he has mental health?

[Freethinker65]

63. No. But mispronunciations happen. He knew the word.

I still think Trump has obvious mental decline issues.

[C_U_L8R]

3. He sounded scared

Dementia is a scary thing.

[Leith]

4. That ship done sailed long ago

We've been saying from the beginning that he just ain't right. The boy's tetched.

[lpbk2713]

5. His handlers have a dilemma.

Trump is so fucked up to begin with they don't recognize it's time
to step in and have him treated by mental health professionals.

[DesertRat]

20. #25thAmendmentNow

[Takket]

6. He doesn't even remember where his father was born

If Hillary ever says anything like that they would be demanding her resignation.

Dems need to start calling out these mental lapses in the media and demand he step down. He won’t. But that seed will be planted in voters’ minds.

[womanofthehills]

28. The whole thing about where his parents and grandparents were born is bizarro - dementia? lies?

He says his father, who was born in the Bronx, was born in a beautiful town in Germany. In his co-written book, The Art of the Deal, he says his grandfather, who was actually born in Germany, was born in Sweden.

[nolabear]

7. For me the most interesting part was he knew it.

You can see it in his eyes as he says “orange.” He knows it’s not the right word. He compensated by repeating that it’s the beginning. He tries again and the wrong word comes out again. He knows and yet he can’t do what any of us who know we just tripped over our words and laugh or jokingly spit. He looks anxious about it and pushes through.

I’d say he knows he’s slipping and given his personality he’s unable to do anything other than try to pretend it’s not happening.

[Grasswire2]

11. agreed

He knew that he said oranges instead of origins, and then said "beginnings". He slowed down a bit. Then it happened again. For a moment, he looked lost.

[Laura PourMeADrink]

22. So are you saying this is normal?

[nolabear]

38. Well, normal for what?

I’ve always thought he covered up his tendency to use words incorrectly by blowharding his way past them but he was generally reading them and in front of a crowd so you could imagine nerves, dissociation (not abnormal in such situations) or some such but he actually seemed lost and unable to find the right word. Forgetting names or words now and then happens in normal mental decline with age and isn’t necessarily an issue (I can be terrible at it) but this had a really odd presentation and I’d say bears watching. He was upset and couldn’t find a way out of it. That was the most troubling.

[Laura PourMeADrink]

49. I agree, odd presentation on "origin" which is such

a simple word, vs. "anonymous". But he knew what it meant because he kept repeating a definition.

I remember being in a public speaking class and fumbling over a word - could have even been anonymous..I said it wrong a couple times and then just skipped it. My only point is that I was extremely nervous...almost petrified. Maybe his missteps happen when he is nervous and lying? He was talking about investigating the origins of the Mueller investigation which is total bullshit ?

I think he knows something is wrong with his speech and is trying to cover it up. Could it be a learning disability? Would explain his aversion to reading or to being presented with complex information. He gets angry.

Just seems like his issues are more complex than normal aging?

[ginnyinWI]

55. he probably just shrugs it off as being tired or something.

It might be partly from being tired. He doesn't sleep enough probably. But it is concerning that he couldn't get it right several times.

They think he's dyslexic too, but there might be something else wrong. It bears watching.

[DFW]

40. When words come out wrong and you know it but can't help it

I know that symptom all too well. It happened to my mom the day she died. That is what happens when you have a stroke. Strokes come in all sizes, locations in the brain, and intensities. This sounds like Trump is regularly having a series of tiny strokes. It could go on for years, or it could end in a massive stroke from one second to the next when he collapses to the floor babbling like an infant before he turns into a complete vegetable--or anywhere in between.

It could be something else, entirely, of course, but if he KNOWS he's talking gibberish and wants to correct it, but can't, that is a classic stroke symptom.

[nolabear]

41. You could be right. Something certainly seems to be up.

The next few weeks may tell. Hold onto your hair.

[Wounded Bear]

8. Not just incompetent, incapacitated...

[3catwoman3]

9. "I know words. I've got the best words."

Yeah, right.

[DavidDvorkin]

10. If the GOP accepts reality and invokes Amendment 25

The Trump base will be furious and will take it out on them in 2020.

If they do nothing, they could find themselves with a clearly demented candidate in 2020.

Either one works for me.

[Laura PourMeADrink]

24. Agree..but isn't it amazing that half of our

Congress isn't making that supposition apparent? It's like their life depends in it. If he's ok...we survive. If not, hide it so we can survive

[Stinky The Clown]

12. I wish him a rapid, sure, personally frightening, and painful decline.

I wish him incompetence and incontinence.

I wish for all of this to build to a crescendo about a month before the 2020 election.

[BigmanPigman]

17. I wish you get your wish.

[SammyWinstonJack]

45. I wish your wish.

[Doodley]

13. If he has dementia, it is very mild. He has something more serious going on.

[Laura PourMeADrink]

25. I know dementia..

It is nothing like what he is demonstrating.

[Doodley]

29. Forgetting a word from time to time, may or may not be early dementia, but he has a lot of

other stuff going on. It is disturbing that he seems to live in an alternate reality and he is the president, and not a benevolent one. He is damaging our relations with our allies, our institutions, our faith in our elections, our media, our judiciary, our neighbors. He is dismantling our nation, at the whim of his mental illness.

[Laura PourMeADrink]

33. He slipped through the cracks. Not everyone

realized what a megolomanic he is.

Why the right doesn't have the balls to admit trump is crazy is beyond reality.

They are full partners

[crazytown]

36. A stroke.

I had a friend I met after he had a stroke. He would use the wrong words then show distress when he could not pronounce the right one. On one occasion he couldn’t say ‘she’. It kept coming out as ‘he’. He broke down cryi g

[DFW]

42. I didn't see your post before I wrote my post

#40 above.

We seem to agree. This sounds like classic stroke symptoms.

[sheshe2]

14. He has the launch codes.

[Doodley]

15. That is the most worrying thing. Nobody in power seems to care.

[luvallpeeps]

31. Oh Lord don't let him slip and fall.

It's like a toddler running around with a loaded pistol. Everyone wants to get the gun from him, but everyone's afraid of getting shot. We are in such a messed up situation.

[dlk]

16. As the Walls From the Multiple Investigations Close In, He Will Only Get Worse

I really worry what he will do in his incoherent and unhinged state.

[BigmanPigman]

19. The stress will only get worse.

The psychologist who was on MSNBC said that stress makes cognitive abilities worsen. He wasn't doing that great in this dept to begin with.

[Horse with no Name]

27. Just as she proceeded to have word finding difficulties

Was a little bit uncomfortable to watch personally

[BigmanPigman]

30. I attributed it to not being on live TV interviews much

during her life. Maybe she was trying to make a point about what stress can do to speech (I'm kidding).

[greymattermom]

52. I was on a live tv interview once (Fox, actually)

and it was disconcerting that I was in a dark sound proof room and could not see the person asking the questions. So yes, it's stressful.

[Dulcinea]

54. That's what I think.

It could be early signs of dementia, or he's cracking up under the pressure. Let's face it, he never wanted to be president. He wanted the attention & free publicity for his businesses, & it got away from him.

[alan1952]

18. 45 is one of the Untethered

I have been a lurker enjoying the hilarious conversations that go on in this great site. So I could not miss the opportunity to join in.

Having just seen the movie US I could not help but feel that we are living in a time when life is truly imitating art or is it that is reflecting our sad reality. What we have now is the Untethered running everything. See the movie and you will understand.

[True Blue American]

34. Welcome to the board, Alan1952!

Oh, you will have a geat time posting here.

[nolabear]

39. Welcome to DU!

I’m looking forward to US. Peele gets what horror should be. He’s brilliant.

[Generic Other]

60. Welcome to the madhouse!

[IluvPitties]

23. Donnie, dementia's calling.

[dalton99a]

26. Put the motherfucker in the nursing home

[Demovictory9]

32. the video.. begin at 2:15

[LibDemAlways]

35. Thanks for posting this. He's losing it, and he

knows he's losing it. He looks scared.

[Honeycombe8]

37. The suits behind him are running the show. Remember Reagan in his 2nd term.

Reagan had Alzheimer's by then. It didn't matter much. The suits ran the White House, set policy, vetoed or not. Was it in his 2nd term that the Republicans illegally traded arms with Iran for hostages? Or was that his first term?

Anyway, Trump doesn't run much of anything. He watches tv & tweets all day, golfs or travels to go play golf 3 days a week. Then he vetoes a bill now and then. Or he gets on his high horse and does an executive order to ban Muslims or whatever...but others draw up the documents for him to sign...which I'm certain he never reads.

He's our first for-show President. He gives rallies, spouts gimmicky language ("witch hunt," "it' rigged," "build the wall," make American great again, lock her up, etc.). He's putting on a show, playing President.

We need to tell him in 2020 "YOU'RE FIRED!"

[Doodley]

44. You are probably right, but Trump doesn't do as he is told and sets the failing agenda.

[Honeycombe8]

47. Oh, totally true. Well, his family does. I'm sure Kushner tells him to do this or that.

And then Stephen Moore tells him to do such and such.

[Generic Other]

59. Reagan's suits were Brooks Brothers not wearing white ones

carrying butterfly nets and straitjackets behind him. He could have used those, but he had Nancy.

I am betting that the worst meltdown of a POTUS in history is still to come.

[Honeycombe8]

61. People keep saying that, but he's never come close, that I can see.

He acts outrageously when things get stressful, but he always acts outrageously, anyway. He's in a bubble and retreats to his base, which makes him feel comfortable.

Could it be he knows that Putin will be there for him again?

[Generic Other]

62. I suspect the meltdown will happen in front of the base

That's when he is most willing to unleash the bully pulpit talk. And that is when he's most in danger of going off the path into some sort of volatile Captain Queeg moment.

I expect him to advocate violence against Democrats, any of his enemies. His deranged behavior will bring them all down. One can hope the Republican party will never recover.

[Honeycombe8]

65. Oh, that's what people mean. He's done that several times already.

It doesn't mean anything.

He is not going to have a nervous breakdown, if that's what people are waiting for. Not gonna happen, IMO. No matter how he acts, his base is with him...so far.

His base was fine with him putting immigrant children in kennels. Once they accepted that, they were 100% gone. I hate to say it, but in my mind, I was seeing how some (many?) Germans came to accepting what was done to the Jews. The dictator tests them bit by bit, to see what they'll accept. There's a point where the dictator knows he has them all the way.

No, this is going to have to be done the old fashioned way. Win an election. What won't be old fashioned about it is that Russia will help Trump again. So we just need to have enough votes to overcome that.

[SoCalDem]

43. and yet in the chyron for MSNBC they CORRECTED it to "origins"

His words/attempted sentences MUST be recorded verbatim, so people can see what a nut he really is..

[Stellar]

46. It's possible that nit-wit didn't know the difference. nt

[GoCubsGo]

48. The spirochetes are running out of gray matter to consume.

It's damn disgusting that the republicans in Congress are allowing this to continue, knowing full well that this asshole is not fit for office. And, totally appalling that the media are ignoring it, as well.

[Tipperary]

50. Is there a clip of this anywhere? Damn, I missed it.

I hate watching him, but I would watch that.

[Botany]

57. oranges of the investigation

[Tipperary]

58. Holy crap. And he seems to know he did it, then revisits it again.

Thanks for the link!

[Paladin]

51. His words are playing catch-up. His mind went, long ago. (nt)

[Botany]

53. End stage syphilis?

just asking ....

[C_U_L8R]

56. He has lots of words, the best words

but it's questionable that he ever had a mind

[sarcasmo]

64. Oranges, oranges, oranges, could launch a nuke. Scary 💩💩💩💩💩

[Blue Owl]

66. The Clementine Comrade

n/t