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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsTrump will do everything in his power to keep the Report from the Congress...
....and the American people.
He will not tell Barr to submit it to Congress, rather he will tell his allies in the Senate to continue blocking it. He does not want the evidence against him to go public. It would be too devastating.
Democrats will attempt to subpoena it but will not succeed, in my opinion.
We are watching the beginning of a cover-up.
I will be very surprised if we ever see the Mueller Report.
leftieNanner
(14,998 posts)But we have Adam, Elijah, and Jerry on our team and they are very smart guys. There are avenues that they can pursue to get the report released to them.
You are right that Trumpy will do everything he possibly can to keep anybody from seeing it, but I think it will come out.
Have faith, kentuck!
ProudLib72
(17,984 posts)Of course those who are in the know will never stoop to such a thing because it would lead to rebellion.
Kurt V.
(5,624 posts)such an awful person im pretty confident for 2020.
Wounded Bear
(58,440 posts)It's been going on for nearly 3 years now.
kentuck
(110,950 posts)...and will claim executive privilege if the Congress attempts to subpoena him for questions. Usually, if you think the worst from Trump, you will be more right than wrong.l
briv1016
(1,570 posts)I always assumed he would just go back.
Wounded Bear
(58,440 posts)Kingofalldems
(38,361 posts)lindysalsagal
(20,444 posts)and then he can't be punished for telling the truth.
greymattermom
(5,751 posts)and go on all the cable shows. Just telling the truth, he'll make a fortune.
lindysalsagal
(20,444 posts)babylonsister
(170,963 posts)Cirque du So-What
(25,812 posts)Fucka buncha defeatism.
kentuck
(110,950 posts)I have run out of optimism. I am trying to face reality.
Also, I do not think Republicans will go along with an impeachment trial. I think we are stuck with this cover-up and stone-walling until the next election.
I hope I am wrong. I still have hope.
tymorial
(3,433 posts)Here is what I believe. Robert's cares more about the legitimacy and the legacy of the supreme court. I do not believe he would side with the conservatives on this issue knowing that the implication is the court is totally partisan and meant to further conservative agenda and protect trump. I know he isnt an ally in the strictest definition but I do believe Robert's agenda falls in line with the will of the people on this issue.
California_Republic
(1,826 posts)Golden Raisin
(4,600 posts)to seize the PR initiative. And they scored a bullseye. It's hard to undue a "big lie" repetition which this has already become. The damage is already severe and the passage of time (if it ends up going to the courts) isn't going to help. I wish the "Gang of Eight" could somehow insert themselves into this and get a complete, unredacted copy. Of course, some patriot leaking to the press/general public would be great.
Jarqui
(10,110 posts)Barr is committed to produce some version of the report by mid April.
Let him. It's not going to be good news for Trump. Barr is already committed to deliver it.
So take what they give you. That keeps that part of the report out of court.
Then, they can go to court for two more hunks of the report:
1. Grand Jury - which precedent shows they're entitled to
2. Classified portions which they really should have already to protect the country
Somewhere along the way, they bring Barr & Rosenstein in to testify. After that, Bob Mueller.
At that point, a bunch of the bad story about Trump will be out. More folks will be concluding he was up to no good.
Then they'll have two things left to bicker over:
3. Leaving out parties who were not charged (maybe Don Jr, Ivanka, etc)
4. A pissed off Trump will probably invoke executive privilege so he can tie it up in court and they probably will have to sort that out by having a judge look it over - like Cohen's evidence for attorney-client privilege
Maybe they get that by initiating impeachment proceedings but more likely, more court.
This is going to unravel - probably when Mueller testifies. Mueller is going to explain that he gathered the evidence for Congress to assess - and effectively, Barr cut Congress off. etc. Mueler is not going to testify that they sat there for two years looking at "collusion" and found no evidence because if they were not finding evidence, they would have shut it down long before.
bluestarone
(16,722 posts)If the Grand Jury decides for the House to release All info they have, what options do Barr and tRUMP have? Could they STILL stop it? Does it go all the way to the Supreme Court, after GJ makes a decision? LOTS of questions i know! But just ONE answer will do, and that's BARR and tRUMP have NO OPTIONS if GJ decides to release info. TY in advance
Jarqui
(10,110 posts)bluestarone
(16,722 posts)The ONLY way for sure to get the Mueller report may be IMPEACHMENT! Someone earlier mentioned this.
Jarqui
(10,110 posts)The thing is: the more Trump keeps the report from the public, the more guilty rational people will perceive him. They've already his their high water mark with Barr's propaganda. It's all downhill for them.
"Hey public, want to see the report? Vote for Democrats!"
bluestarone
(16,722 posts)Everyday they are planning away. Rumps making statement on Ginsburg. GODDAM i hate this fucker!
kentuck
(110,950 posts)...they will understand that there was a vote in the House, 420-0, to make it public. They should take that vote again.
Then they should use that vote to slowly squeeze the report out of the White House.
uponit7771
(90,225 posts)anarch
(6,535 posts)If we see it at all, which is doubtful.
I think a great deal of evidence will have to be suppressed for "national security" reasons (aside from whatever there is that just generally confirms everything we already know regarding the character of Individual 1, my suspicion is that there's likely enough of this and that in the collected evidence such that a reasonable person might have to strongly consider the possibility that the reported results of the 2016 election were not legitimate...and so on).
Progressive dog
(6,862 posts)but he won't succeed in keeping the information in the report from Congress. There are too many witnesses who won't want to go to jail for helping Trump.
democratisphere
(17,235 posts)Then we can lock them ALL up.
uponit7771
(90,225 posts)kentuck
(110,950 posts)Isn't he part of the Justice Department?
It's conceivable that Trump would declare executive privilege to keep him from testifying.
democratisphere
(17,235 posts)Adam Schiff and Nancy Pelosi will prevail.
kentuck
(110,950 posts)The evil force is strong in this one.
kentuck
(110,950 posts)Over the wishes of Democrats and Republicans in the House.