Mueller Bombshell Hiding in Plain Sight!

[kennetha]

I think everybody is missing the true bombshell in the Mueller report. But it is sitting there almost in plain sight. Ask yourself why Mueller did not draw a conclusion on the obstruction question. Not because he couldn’t decide the question, but because he believes it wasn’t his place to decide the question.

Justice department guidelines hold that a sitting president cannot be indicted. So what would be the point of weighing in on that issue?

Who is assigned the role of standing in judgement of a sitting president then? No one?

Answer the Congress, obviously! And Mueller intended to lay out the “difficult issues of law and fact” to the Congress. Mueller’s report is an open invitation to Congress to begin deliberating impeachment, with his findings as a roadmap.

That’s the real bombshell.

But a funny thing happened, on the way to these deliberations. In a brazen act of usurpation, Barr intercepted the invitation and tried to hide it.

Image if he had not. Imagine the headlines.

Dateline Washington DC. Mueller invites Congress to consider impeachment.

[manor321]

1. Yes, I believe this is correct.

This is what happened in the Watergate case. The facts were handed off to Congress.

[asiliveandbreathe]

2. Exactly - Jaworskis Watergate roadmap...report to congress - let congress decide....

Thus, to imagine, the truth, t rump could not handle the headline...Mueller invites Congress to consider impeachment..indeed Barr overstepped and usurped Congress...


Congress WILL take the helm once they have the Mueller report...just will take time..

The cover-up...again..ain't going to last long....

[BigmanPigman]

9. Barr is obstructing justice...he should remember

Mitchell and Watergate.

[OhNo-Really]

28. So today House failed 2/3 To veto Trump Emergency, so

does this prove that House lacks impeachment power as well? The GOP continues to lock step.

Trying to learn how impeachment can work. I'd be happy to just learn the truth right now.

Tgis batch of repubs don't quit even when you can smell the stench of guilt across the world.

[Texin]

29. With tRump's *vindication* a la Barr, the rethugs will be even more emboldened

to continue their agenda apace, and make no mistake, they'll be in lockstep from here on out. It will be a single wall of solidarity to continue with their Dear Leader's agenda and to double down on their protection of him. There won't be a hair's width of separation between them now.

[OhNo-Really]

31. 😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢&#

We each need to maintain our own balance, body, mind, spirit.

Evil only succeeds when good people throw in the towel.

The world powers appear to be shifting away from the people into the hands of the few.

Well, in order to enjoy their power, cooperation by the many is required.

2020 is the turning point for USA. Stay balanced for your health's sake

and work tirelessly to elect persons who want to represent all the people, not just the top 10%

If we lose 2020, stop cooperating.

[ArizonaLib]

44. I don't mean to sound negative - but just the opposite

Winning - the sooner the better and for longer - Reagan was elected just 5 years after watergate. Many of the individuals who did not wind up incarcerated wound up working for him or close to him.

We need to win ASAP with as much victory as possible. Moral victories are not victories, because moral victories are not power. As liberals we need to win power - too often knowing we are right prevents us from remaining aggressive until the end. The corrupt conservatives only understand one thing: devastating defeat similar to that of the 1930's and the 1860's civil war. They want to go back in time - let's take them back to those times!

[lagomorph777]

16. The House is already steering the ship; they will find the truth with or without the report.

It will not go well for those trying to conceal the report, or the truth in general.

[Grasswire2]

3. yes

Someone on MSNBC said the same yesterday. Can't remember who.

[RKP5637]

4. I agree!!! I think you are 100% correct. Mueller knows what's up and he very smartly directed it the

right way to congress. Barr is an asshole cover for tRump's Rump!!! We will see Barr pushed aside and exposed for what he's trying to do.

[onit2day]

45. McConnell can't refuse to Mueller report's release if House began impeachment

[CentralMass]

5. This seems like an easy out and a reverse Comey.

Certainly Mueller and his team could determine if obstruction of justice occurred and they probably did. By not clearly stating that in the report Mueller did obfuscation of justice and Barr took it to full blown obstruction.

[tymorial]

12. I just cant even.

[ehrnst]

38. +1000.

[ehrnst]

39. If Mueller wanted to "obfuscate justice" why did he involve SDNY and other jurisdictions?

If Mueller wanted to protect anyone, he could have done it by indicting them, so they would be federal charges, subject to full pardon by DT because they are completed within his term of office. Instead he used selected indictments to get lower level thugs to cooperate and plea, and let everyone up the ladder know that no one was too small a fish to fry, and that cooperating from the start would get you a reduced sentence.

This is the way he brought down Whitey Bulger.

His findings spun off to investigations in local jurisdictions and other federal, which are ongoing and, in the case of historically independent SDNY, pretty much beyond the reach of Barr, and DT, and involve his businesses, his family and his taxes. Those are way more likely to bear fruit than one collusion investigation.

If he wanted to "obfuscate" justice, he sure picked a piss poor way to do it.

[onit2day]

46. No previous special counsel ever returned obstruction charges because

it is the duty of the congress since DoJ holds the rule a sitting president can't be indicted, it is only under impeachment that a president can be held accountable. Mueller followed precedent and impeachment proceedings will make his report public if Pelosi decides to hold Trump accountable.

[bluestarone]

6. Like i said, whole new ball game ( in my eyes anyhow) if

This is what Mueller testifies too!

[allgood33]

7. Congress, please proceed. nt

[42bambi]

8. Knowing that Mueller never gives up, (the Mob), this was

his ace in the hole. He set it in motion....

[Gregory Peccary]

10. But everybody and their grandmother knew Barr was going to squash it

So Mueller certainly must have known his words would not get past Barr.

[BamaRefugee]

21. Yes. This. This is what really stinks here...

Mueller wants to keep his legacy squeaky clean. So he hands it off to Congress, no nasty stains on his reputation for having implicated/indicted/brought down a (REPUBLICAN!) President, knowing exactly what would happen after that.

We may never know if this is how it really went down.

[onit2day]

47. The opposite is true. Hope you take time to watch Eric Holder on utube explain why

[watoos]

11. or Barr ended Mueller's investigation,

before he could give his opinion. What if Barr shut Mueller down?

[lagomorph777]

17. Remember when Barr said he'd consult with Mueller and Rosenstein,

then Mueller mysteriously disappears from Barr's Sunday opinion piece? Notice Barr doesn't claim that Mueller approved of his spin?

[in2herbs]

30. Rachel Madddow alluded to this and I think it has lot's of credence. The investigation was not

finished because Mueller was shut down by Barr. Ergo, Mueller's report contains no recommendation, leaving the rest of the investigation to Congress.

[leftynyc]

13. Speaker Pelosi needs Mueller in the House

soon. Very, very soon.

[DallasNE]

26. Absolutely

Until then the Trump spin machine will be running full speed with the nonsense and as history has shown, when you repeat something often enough it becomes accepted as fact. Normally that would wait until after they have the report in hand but Trump is slow-walking it so it needs to be now not a month from now.

[saljr1]

14. It still does not explain the reason why Don Jr. was not charged. He was informed by Rob Goldstein

that he was meeting with a representative of the Russian Federation who had dirt on Hillary Clinton. Just the fact that he took that meeting is a crime. Why was he not charged? It's conspiracy to collude, plain and simple.

[lagomorph777]

18. Barr blocked Mueller.

Simple as that.

[former9thward]

34. No evidence of that.

[lagomorph777]

37. Barr said he'd consult with Mueller to write his op-ed. Then does not get Mueller's blessing,

if you read the text of his opinion piece ( "report" ). To me that's evidence.

[former9thward]

42. We have no idea whether it had "Mueller's blessing"

[lagomorph777]

49. Barr certainly would have claimed he has Mueller's blessing, if he could have.

[former9thward]

55. Mueller is a subordinate.

Why would he claim that?

[lagomorph777]

64. Mueller has credibility and has done the actual investigating?

And Barr has no credibility?

[former9thward]

65. He has no credibility to you.

He has credibility to the DC powers.

[lagomorph777]

66. Barr has credibility to the Reptilians in the WH and Senate. Nobody else.

And he knows that.

[former9thward]

69. No he doesn't.

On his first round as AG during Bush I he was confirmed unanimously by the Senate. This time around Democrats on the Judiciary and in the full Senate said almost nothing against him.

[LanternWaste]

68. And he has credibility to those passively arguing on his behalf.

We certainly can't forget those unsung heroes...

[lagomorph777]

70. MSM

[ehrnst]

41. Because if Don Jr. is charged federally, then Dad can pardon him?

And there are other investigations going on in SDNY involving him that are out of the reach of Dad.

New York has strong double jeopardy laws that would not allow SDNY to prosecute if he was pardoned for a crime.

However, he could have handed off unrelated charges -- such as lying to Congress -- or made a criminal referral related to Trump Jr. and others to a U.S. attorney’s office, Cramer said.

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2019-03-23/trump-jr-escapes-mueller-probe-despite-the-trump-tower-meeting

[former9thward]

43. The SDNY is part of the DOJ.

It certainly is within the "reach of Dad". Jr. is not going to be charged for anything Mueller was investigating.

[BamaRefugee]

48. Baffles me why everyone thinks SDNY is bulletproof from tRump?!?!? One of the first things tRump did

was fire Preet Bharara (sp?) who was already onto tRump, and now he's even more emboldened, he'll stifle anything dangerous coming from SDNY

[ehrnst]

50. Um... I said that charges brought by SDNY are not subject to presidential pardon.

Please read more carefully next time.

[former9thward]

56. Please read the Constitution.

Trump can pardon anything coming out of the SDNY.

[ehrnst]

57. Which Constitution are you reading?

Can the president pardon Manafort on state charges?

No. The United States Constitution confers broad authority on the president to issue pardons in federal cases. Indeed, the president can even pardon people before they are charged or convicted of a federal crime, although such actions are rare. (President Gerald Ford pardoned his predecessor, Richard M. Nixon, after Watergate, and President Jimmy Carter pardoned Vietnam draft evaders.) But the president has no power to do so in connection with state crimes.

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/02/26/nyregion/trump-pardons-manafort.html

[former9thward]

58. The United States Constitution.

Which one do you use? The SDNY stands for Southern District of New York. The SDNY is a federal district court with a federal US attorney as part of the federal DOJ.

[ehrnst]

63. Mea Culpa - I was confusing SDNY with the NY AG. (nt)

[BamaRefugee]

62. I read it VERY carefully and I can tell you with little fear of contradiction that charges brought

by SDNY are ABSOLUTELY subject to Presidential pardon.

Perhaps you meant State of New York cases?

[ehrnst]

52. Not in terms of a pardon.

Is that clearer?

[Sunsky]

51. SDNY is federal and still within the reach of Dad nt

[ehrnst]

59. The office has "historically been very independent, with very little oversight by DOJ, especially in

the financial crimes space," said Lynn Neils, a former assistant U.S. attorney in the Southern District and in New Jersey. That's the sphere where the office "has made its name," she added.
..............................................

The office's distinguished history gives it "a kind of street credit in the prosecution world that does give them some sense of independence from the Department of Justice," said Roland Riopelle, a former assistant U.S. attorney in the office.

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/donald-trump/we-know-how-do-better-anybody-southern-district-ny-job-n978681

If there is anyone who can prosecute without interference, it's SDNY. Any indictments handed down by NY will be out of pardonable reach by POTUS.

Jonathan Turley, a professor at George Washington University Law School, said charges pursued by SDNY could have a statute of limitations extending beyond Trump’s term, meaning Trump could be indicted once he leaves office.

“If the president was found to be part of a criminal conspiracy or violation, it’s possible that they could proceed with charges after the election,” said Turley, an opinion contributor to The Hill.

https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/435456-muellers-end-shifts-focus-to-new-york-prosecutors

[Sunsky]

60. Historical trends mean nothing in Trumpland.

The only crime unreachable by the broad pardon power of the President are state crime. Any charges/conviction by the SDNY would be federal, which Trump would be able to pardon. The charges brought by the Manhattan DA are out of Trump's reach.

[tymorial]

15. I think this is a rather reasoned argument and quite possibly true. Thank you.

I'll add that I wish we had more of this on here instead of the histrionics and preposterous conspiracy. Sigh.

[Pepsidog]

19. Exactly !!!!

[CareerGuyMA]

20. Not long hidden

Three things not long hidden: the Sun, the Moon, the truth!

[benld74]

22. Justice department guidelines hold that a sitting president cannot be indicted.

THIS is BOVINE EXCRETEMENT

There arr NO guidelines
Never had them
Never will

THAT sentence is what the GOP states
AND
It
IS
WRONG

[Laura PourMeADrink]

23. The other point that Mueller missed was thinking congress

Would even consider impeachment. It is off the table.

[DallasNE]

24. This Is A Good Summary

Of what Eric Holder said during an interview by Ari Melber.

[LS_Editor]

25. You need the Senate after the House votes to impeach.

Not happening.

[OhNo-Really]

32. there aren't enough votes in the House are there? Failed Emergency Veto today

[lame54]

27. Barr is the one in plain sight...

Trump shopped around and on his 3rd try found the right guy for the job
A guy with a track record
Mueller knew this was gonna happen

[warmfeet]

33. This will not be solved by ordinary means. Merely voting will not accomplish this.

You want Democracy, you are going to have to go to extraordinary means to find it.

The fascists want it all - power, control, money, domination, revenge, etc.

They will do anything to obtain all power.

It sucks, but that is how things are.

Resist!

Ugh!

No one cares.

I tried............

[7wo7rees]

35. This is a correct assessment

Except for impeachment. Probably not happening.
Mueller's handoff to Congress is like a loaded diaper ready to throw.
He knows it's their job to throw it. Not his.
Barr is doing his job by saying there is no diaper. Trump lazily concurs, twitterly.

Those who want Trump to win will already think he did, no matter what.
Those of us who want Trump to get the justice he deserves will wait.
We have Nadler, Waters, Schiff, and Pelosi. They can make this moment historic.

They will show us if this country can be saved.
They must throw the diaper.

[rlegro]

36. Mueller also thought ahead...

...on protecting indictments that might invite presidential pardons. So he moved those cases to other jurisdictions. And let's not forget the 18 (I think) pending investigations in various government units probing Trump in one way or another, some not forwarded by Mueller. Oh, the game is afoot. But it might take awhile.

[MadDAsHell]

40. Or Mueller is a Rethuglican, helped lie us into the Iraq War, and DU worship of him is disgusting.

The lengths people are going to explain away the obvious (Mueller was never on our side) are amusing. Just because there were memes making it appear he was some progressive champion for justice doesn't make it so.

Why did people ever assume Mueller was on our side?

[doc03]

53. If Mueller is this great impartial person

and patriot why in the hell doesn't he speak out on
what Barr is doing? If Barr is misinterpreting Mueller's intent he should hold a press conference and say so. After all Trump trashed him for 2 years I think anyone else would if they had an ounce of integrity.

[kennetha]

54. He will speak under oath when called to testify before Congress

That's the proper time and place. He is not a partisan in this matter.

[doc03]

61. When? You know the Republicans will fight

it to the end

[SoCalDem]

67. He should also be ordered to bring HIS copy of the report

and to LEAVE a copy with the House.. It's obvious that the report has been "spun", and time's a-wasting.. We HAVE to know the truth before the next election

[BlueFlorida]

71. You're absolutely right. nt