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octoberlib

(14,971 posts)
Mon Mar 25, 2019, 10:47 PM Mar 2019

U.S. Said to Have Tapes of Alleged 9/11 Mastermind Plotting With Co-Conspirators

By Carol Rosenberg
March 25, 2019

This article was produced in partnership with the Pulitzer Center on Crisis Reporting.

GUANTÁNAMO BAY, Cuba — Military prosecutors say they have tapes of telephone calls between the alleged mastermind of the Sept. 11 attacks, Khalid Shaikh Mohammed, and three of his accused co-conspirators talking in code about the plot months before it took place, a defense lawyer disclosed on Monday.

The lawyer, Jay Connell, revealed the existence of the tapes as part of a protest over plans to use them as evidence at the death penalty trial of the alleged conspirators. More than 17 and a half years after the attacks — in which 19 hijackers commandeered four commercial airplanes and crashed them into the World Trade Center, the Pentagon and a Pennsylvania field, killing nearly 3,000 people — there is still no date set for the trial in the proceedings at Guantánamo Bay.

Prosecutors gave defense lawyers the original audio and transcripts of their translation on Sept. 30, 2016, Mr. Connell said, and made clear they planned to use them at trial. Defense lawyers sought to investigate their origins and later discovered that the original trial judge, Army Col. James L. Pohl, had issued a secret order preventing them from knowing about the phone call collection system or asking questions about it.

Mr. Connell, who is representing Mr. Mohammed’s nephew, Ammar al-Baluchi, said that prosecutors secretly obtained a ruling in August 2018 from Colonel Pohl forbidding defense lawyers from learning how the phone calls were collected or investigating that question. The phone calls in at least two languages were made between April and October 2001.

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/03/25/us/politics/9-11-khalid-shaikh-mohammed.html

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U.S. Said to Have Tapes of Alleged 9/11 Mastermind Plotting With Co-Conspirators (Original Post) octoberlib Mar 2019 OP
They Had Tapes Me. Mar 2019 #1
In the article , it said the NSA didn't even get around to listening to them until after the attack. octoberlib Mar 2019 #2
Dubya's so-called adults downplayed the Al Qaedathreat Vogon_Glory Mar 2019 #4
Oh, really? PoindexterOglethorpe Mar 2019 #3
Actually I find the long delay plausible Vogon_Glory Mar 2019 #5
But the long delay PoindexterOglethorpe Mar 2019 #6

octoberlib

(14,971 posts)
2. In the article , it said the NSA didn't even get around to listening to them until after the attack.
Mon Mar 25, 2019, 10:54 PM
Mar 2019

Vogon_Glory

(9,113 posts)
4. Dubya's so-called adults downplayed the Al Qaedathreat
Mon Mar 25, 2019, 11:30 PM
Mar 2019

That’s probably why the NSA didn’t get around to listening to them.

PoindexterOglethorpe

(25,839 posts)
3. Oh, really?
Mon Mar 25, 2019, 11:07 PM
Mar 2019

And it's taken nearly two decades to listen to them and translate them?

Why am I highly skeptical here?

Vogon_Glory

(9,113 posts)
5. Actually I find the long delay plausible
Mon Mar 25, 2019, 11:44 PM
Mar 2019

Last edited Tue Mar 26, 2019, 12:21 AM - Edit history (1)

Dubya and Cheney certainly weren’t in a hurry to admit that they fouled up prior to September 11th, and I fear that President Obama’s administration played Mr. Nice Guy and didn’t release the tapes because to do so would embarrass Dubya’s Duck Soup Posse.

PoindexterOglethorpe

(25,839 posts)
6. But the long delay
Tue Mar 26, 2019, 12:25 AM
Mar 2019

goes to some eight years EIGHT YEARS after Bush left office.

Maybe Obama's administration played Mr Nice Guy, as you put it, but if that's true, then all the more reason to dump on Mr. Nice Guy.

In the end, I'm just not buying this.

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