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manor321

(3,344 posts)
Wed Mar 13, 2019, 11:14 PM Mar 2019

Jed Shugerman changes his mind, thinks 12 Manafort NY charges face serious double jeopardy issue

Earlier Jed Shugerman tweeted that he did not think there were double jeopardy issues in today's Manafort indictment in New York. However, he has changed his mind. Read his full thread starting here:

CORRECTION THREAD: I think we have a NY double jeopardy problem re: Manafort.
Let me first note that I have just spent 2 hours on a train comparing today's new @manhattanda indictment to the old Mueller indictment.
Problem 1: Today's indictment is badly written and confusing...



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Jed Shugerman changes his mind, thinks 12 Manafort NY charges face serious double jeopardy issue (Original Post) manor321 Mar 2019 OP
Who is Jed Shugerman and why should we think he has figured out something The Velveteen Ocelot Mar 2019 #1
shugerman is a law professor agingdem Mar 2019 #2
Vance is the guy who let Ivanka and Jr walk after a $50k campaign donation Arazi Mar 2019 #3
He's making broad statements without the relevant information. Nevilledog Mar 2019 #5
I would like an opinion from someone else. Glimmer of Hope Mar 2019 #4
Preferably Chuck Rosenberg or Maya Wiley... dchill Mar 2019 #6

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,857 posts)
1. Who is Jed Shugerman and why should we think he has figured out something
Wed Mar 13, 2019, 11:19 PM
Mar 2019

during a two-hour train ride that the Manhattan DA's office didn't notice despite months of preparation?

agingdem

(7,859 posts)
2. shugerman is a law professor
Wed Mar 13, 2019, 11:31 PM
Mar 2019

but I'm with you...somehow I think the double jeopardy pitfall may have come up in the months it took the Manhattan office to research and then the file 16 indictments..sarcasm intended!!

Arazi

(6,829 posts)
3. Vance is the guy who let Ivanka and Jr walk after a $50k campaign donation
Wed Mar 13, 2019, 11:53 PM
Mar 2019

For the Trump Soho fraud.

Now he's drawn up sloppy charges against Manafort? Sorry but this smells big time. Vance has covered up criminal Trump shit before

#ThereAreNoCoincidences

Nevilledog

(51,198 posts)
5. He's making broad statements without the relevant information.
Wed Mar 13, 2019, 11:58 PM
Mar 2019

Unless he has compared the offenses element by element AND is privy to the evidence NY has, his conclusions a bunch of hooey.

dchill

(38,537 posts)
6. Preferably Chuck Rosenberg or Maya Wiley...
Thu Mar 14, 2019, 12:06 AM
Mar 2019

Or Joyce Vance.
Or Barbara McQuade.
Or Jill Wine-Banks.

ALL serious experts.

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