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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsBREAKING: Manhattan DA Vance unseals 15 fraud & conspiracy charges against Manafort (No Pardon!)
No pardon for you, Manafort!
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Correction: It's actually 16!
Paul J. Manafort, President Trumps former campaign chairman, has been charged in New York with mortgage fraud and more than a dozen other state felonies, the Manhattan district attorney, Cyrus R. Vance, Jr., said Wednesday, an effort to ensure he will still face prison time if Mr. Trump pardons him for his federal crimes.
News of the indictment came shortly after Mr. Manafort was sentenced to his second federal prison term in two weeks; he now faces a combined sentence of more than seven years for tax and bank fraud and conspiracy in two related cases brought by the special counsel, Robert S. Mueller III.
The president has broad power to issue pardons for federal crimes, but has no such authority in state cases.
While Mr. Trump has not said he intends to pardon his former campaign chairman, he has often spoken of his power to pardon and has defended Mr. Manafort on a number of occasions, calling him a brave man.
More: https://www.nytimes.com/2019/03/13/nyregion/manafort-indictment.html
cilla4progress
(24,783 posts)Pardon this MOFO!!!!
unc70
(6,121 posts)Leghorn21
(13,527 posts)I GUESS SO!!!
uponit7771
(90,367 posts)calimary
(81,527 posts)MelissaB
(16,420 posts)Paul J. Manafort, President Trumps former campaign chairman, has been charged in New York with mortgage fraud and more than a dozen other state felonies, the Manhattan district attorney, Cyrus R. Vance, Jr., said Wednesday, an effort to ensure he will still face prison time if Mr. Trump pardons him for his federal crimes.
News of the indictment came shortly after Mr. Manafort was sentenced to his second federal prison term in two weeks; he now faces a combined sentence of more than seven years for tax and bank fraud and conspiracy in two related cases brought by the special counsel, Robert S. Mueller III.
The president has broad power to issue pardons for federal crimes, but has no such authority in state cases.
While Mr. Trump has not said he intends to pardon his former campaign chairman, he has often spoken of his power to pardon and has defended Mr. Manafort on a number of occasions, calling him a brave man.
More: https://www.nytimes.com/2019/03/13/nyregion/manafort-indictment.html
FakeNoose
(32,823 posts)... so nothing to do with Chump on these new cases, it looks like. Chump doesn't need to waste his precious pardon on Manafort. He can save those presidential pardons for his own kids.
calimary
(81,527 posts)and who just worked for him for a few weeks or so?
So now trump is vouching for what a wonderful guy Manafort is and how unfairly hes been treated? How would trump know what a pure and blameless individual he is, in so short a time?
RockRaven
(15,031 posts)Assuming this prosecution succeeds, now there's no point in Trump taking the political risk of trying to bribe Manafort with a pardon. All that effort to appear loyal to Trump down the drain.
llmart
(15,557 posts)Might give them a little something to think about and keep them on edge.
triron
(22,026 posts)BritVic
(262 posts)peggysue2
(10,844 posts)As should all these weasels!
Glimmer of Hope
(5,823 posts)PTWB
(4,131 posts)Leghorn21
(13,527 posts)FOR REAL!!!
MineralMan
(146,338 posts)Very polite of them, I think. That shows proper deference, I believe.
Now, the State's case can proceed. Poor Manafort will have to be wheeled into court again, so he'll probably stay right where he is for now, instead of being transferred to a more pleasant Federal Prison.
Tough times ahead for Paul. No relief.
Sunsky
(1,737 posts)dalton99a
(81,636 posts)BigmanPigman
(51,640 posts)lunatica
(53,410 posts)Thats an interesting family photo.
C_U_L8R
(45,025 posts)How many additional (unpardonable) years in prison might Manafort be facing?
manor321
(3,344 posts)watoos
(7,142 posts)He has a lot of making up to do when he had an open and shut case against Jr. and Ivanka and failed to bring charges.
dlk
(11,580 posts)...that is by remarkable coincidence around the exact same time he declines to prosecute criminal activity of the rich and connected.
dlk
(11,580 posts)The food in the NY state prison system isn't as good, either.
ScratchCat
(2,002 posts)The CPA he had on shows why NYAG undoubtedly has similar sealed indictments with Donald J. Trumps name on them. "It would take 15 minutes and you would know if they committed tax fraud".
rocktivity
(44,580 posts)Bring it on!
rocktivity
DirtEdonE
(1,220 posts)Because the federal courts are just about worthless, IMO.
NCjack
(10,279 posts)conspiracy with Russia.
Aristus
(66,478 posts)Hey Manafort: when you're done with your lazy afternoon sojourn in Federal prison, New York State wants a piece of your ass...
Maeve
(42,297 posts)Botany
(70,614 posts)Unless he really starts talking and his family gets federal protection because once he
starts talking Putin will give the order to have him and his family killed.
roamer65
(36,747 posts)duforsure
(11,885 posts)Mueller has for him soon? Great to hear state charges will put him away for life, and I would expect they have more waiting for him. If trump tries to pardon him he'll get connected and charged with obstruction and conspiracy also with him. It'll be the same if he tries to pardon everyone, including himself, they'll just make it worse for them all, and have state charges for some in large numbers I suspect as corrupt as trump and his family are. Its only a matter of time before Mueller shows they all conspired together, and were neck deep in criminal activities.
Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin
(108,304 posts)But then he shit his bed
smirkymonkey
(63,221 posts)I have lost count. This is a big one though, and he is screwed!