GOP seizes on Pelosi's position on impeachment

[Fullduplexxx]

“When the leader of the Democratic Party states that it’s not worth it, it’s not worth it,” said Blakeman, who was a member of the senior staff in President George W. Bush’s White House. “It’s not because she’s giving him a pass. It’s because there are no high crimes and misdemeanors. They are just deflated that there’s nothing there.”

https://thehill.com/homenews/the-memo/433781-the-memo-gop-seizes-on-pelosis-position-on-impeachment

[JHB]

1. Blakeman: "Look! It's Halley's comet!"

Blakeman (pointing over your shoulder): "My word! What is that?":

[Vinca]

2. That's funny. They're too stupid to see how she trapped them.

[BeyondGeography]

7. Actually, she put herself in a political box and made their day

If she pivots, it’s only because the “far left” made her. She needlessly made the case for impeachment, which many informed people see as already quite strong, more politically complicated. Meantime, they get headlines like this:

Speaker Pelosi confirms what Trump has said all along about the Mueller investigation, says House GOP leader McCarthy
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.cnbc.com/amp/2019/03/12/rep-kevin-mccarthy-says-pelosi-confirms-trump-take-on-mueller-probe.html

[leftynyc]

16. Nope

She made quite clear that when the evidence is there, she will impeach. McCarthy is lying because he's a pathetic, putrid scumbag. Speaker Pelosi was exactly right.

[BeyondGeography]

18. She made it quite clear that impeachment is way down on her list

If it’s there at all. “Too divisive,” “not worth it,” oh, I know, that was Trump, not impeachment, but it’s being spun that way. If she’s not happy with that, she could always come out and clarify, but I wouldn’t hold my breath. Pelosi has routinely gone further than she had to when it comes to throwing water on impeachment. She did it in the midterms “not a priority,” and just this week. In both cases, a simple, “we have to see where the investigations lead,” would have sufficed. Instead, she creates the impression that it is all one great big political inconvenience.

[leftynyc]

26. Way down RIGHT NOW

And she happens to be absolutely right and I see nothing wrong with pointing out that unlike the cons - she will not do something so incredibly divisive without a very good reason. The left may be chomping at the bit (and I don't blame them) but she's thinking ahead, to independents whose votes we're going to need in 2020 and if they see us as rabid dogs whose only message is anti-donnie, we will lose.

[BeyondGeography]

27. That's fair...I just hope it's on her list

[TrishaJ]

29. Exactly

Who didn't think the GOP would jump on Pelosi's statement and spin it as a "win" for Trump? She won't impeach NOW because the GOP Senate will not convict. She's set a trap for them if and when Trump's "high crimes" are exposed by all current investigations.

I think it's a master political play by Pelosi.

[leftynyc]

37. So do I

She's the most politically savvy out of everyone in D.C. right now.

[Mr Tibbs]

38. It was dumb to say it before we know everything

And it will haunt us in the future.

[leftynyc]

39. Spare me the drama

It was the PERFECT thing to say and who gives a crap what they think at fox state tv? There was NOTHING in that statement about never impeaching him. NOTHING.

[Mr Tibbs]

42. Not the first time she's said it

If Trump "Isn't worth impeachment", with his endless stream of felonies, some of which he has already been convicted of (as individual 1) then who is?

https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-features/pelosi-trump-impeachment-807291/

[leftynyc]

43. Just stop it

She said it wasn't worth dividing the country with impeachment UNTIL they got the goods. That's ALL she said. I swear, it's like people are constantly looking for reasons to have hissy fits.

[Mr Tibbs]

44. She also said the same thing in 2006

How low does the bottom have to go before it's worthy of impeachment?

Or is there even a bottom?

[leftynyc]

45. How about some actual PROOF

he committed crimes. The kind of proof that only the most perverted trump humper wouldn't be able to ignore? Right now, there is none and wont be until Mueller releases his report.

[Mr Tibbs]

46. He has already been convicted as individual 1

His 501c3 non-profit charity was broken up when it came to light that it was being used as a trump family slush fund / piggy bank. There are many felonies in that also. All it takes is a willingness to take action.

It's looking like it will be up to the Judiciary to stop him. Apparently the Democrats yet don't have the will or the backbone to do so themselves.

[leftynyc]

48. It's pointless for me to continue

conversing with someone determined to do nothing but complain. Go ahead and wring your hands.

[procon]

21. Why are you quoting Kevin McCarthy?

Don't fall into the trap of believing anything Republicans say about Pelosi or her House Democrats. She terrifies them, and they are working overtime trying to diminish her powerful status and political gravitas, but they still look like yappy ankle biters in comparison.

Nobody plays politics like Pelosi. She has excelled as speaker for so long because she is a genius at seeing the Big Picture and outplaying the amateurish GOP. McCarthy and Trump took the bait, but Pelosi will outlast them all.

[BeyondGeography]

22. See thread title

eom

[procon]

23. OK, you're passing along Republican talking points and you believe

they are correct and Pelosi made a huge mistake. Sorry, but siding with Republicans against a Dem is just wrong.

[BeyondGeography]

25. Get off the high horse

Showing the political result is not an endorsement of the content. That needs to be said?

[procon]

28. You agreed with them.

My horse agrees, quoting an ass like McCarthy to criticize Pelosi is a bit too much.

[BeyondGeography]

30. I never agree with them

She gave them a good headline. Multiple, actually. Deal with it.

[procon]

35. She laid a brilliant trap and they took the bait.

Apparently, so did you. Pelosi has been in the House since 1987, and she's been Speaker and Leader since 2007, and she did not achieve that kind of power by making amateurish mistakes. If the Republicans are giddy, thinking Pelosi just proclaimed that Trump has led a blameless life, Pelosi is ROTFLHAO because she just outplayed them.

[Mr Tibbs]

40. She handed them a get out of jail free card

For the most dangerous politician on the planet.

This will haunt her. This will haunt us.

[procon]

47. Trump will never be Impeached unless 20 Republicans in the Senate

can be convinced of his crimes by a the strength of the preponderance of the evidence against him. Losing that battle will haunt Dems across the board. Pelosi has not stayed in power all these years by making foolish decisions, she knows what she's doing.

By letting her committees in the House continue their investigations without also being embroiled in an impeachment trial, we have a better chance of discovering the evidence needed to bring him down. Pelosi has given Trump all the rope he needs to hang himself because he now believes that he can speak freely and act without fear of being impeached.

[manor321]

3. Of course. Pelosi handed the GOP a GIANT gift. She made a horrible mistake. Period.

[NurseJackie]

6. No she didn't.

[The Truth Is Here]

24. Yes she did.

Twice.

Both times she is wrong.

[NurseJackie]

33. She's smarter than people are giving her credit for. She focuses on FACTS not emotions. And...

She's smarter than people are giving her credit for. She focuses on FACTS not emotions. And, SHE KNOWS HOW TO COUNT!

[obamanut2012]

8. wrong

[Cosmocat]

10. OFFS

Cause they would not be screaming like lunatics if they said "Impeachment is on the table"?

Note on the last 30 years - the republicans loose their minds about ANYTHING Democrats say ...

[Bettie]

17. But they would be losing their minds without the meme

that "Even Nancy Pelosi agrees that there isn't a case for impeachment! See, she said he's innocent!"

[pwb]

4. More crap from the Hill.

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[CincyDem]

5. IIRC, she said "He's not worth it"...that's different than "It's not worth it". n/t

[Bettie]

12. Do you really think the media spin machine will

ever point out that difference in wording?

Nope, the message is now that he's innocent and she believes him.

[BeyondGeography]

15. Spot on

Lmao at the people complaining here. “She said ‘he,’ not ‘it.’” Like that would stop the Republicans. How about not giving them a political opening as wide as the sky to begin with?

[kentuck]

9. Yep! Donald Trump has led an almost "blameless" life....

He would never be connected to any "high crimes or misdemeanors".

[Bettie]

11. This is what I figured would happen

they spin it as "See, no crimes! Pelosi said so! He's totally innocent!"

Real win there. For the right wing.

[Hugin]

13. Sadly, yep.

I knew this the second I read about her saying it.

So, we've got either an impeachment with no conviction or all of this nothingburder hogwash.

I'd prefer the impeachment... Because, then at least we'd have something. But, that ship has sailed.

[spanone]

14. 'HE'S not worth it'

[Are_grits_groceries]

19. I believe Pelosi knows what she is doing.

She has worked on The Hill for decades. She knows the people and the minutiae. She also knows the changes in the parties.

She deliberately put this message out for a purpose. I can guess all day about it, but it will be revealed in due time.
The GOP is so ready to spin things that they don’t think it through. I am not spending one minute worrying about what Trumpkins think. I could care less. It’s the rest of the people she is trying to reach especially those who are elected.
They are walking into a box.

[procon]

20. No, she's playing a brilliant long game because the woman is a politically

savvy mastermind. Republicans, at their peril, refuse to recognise her consummate guile and her powerful understanding of the politicking in the House she runs. Pelosi is lulling Trump into a false sense of security, and he's taken the bait, chortling in the overweening belief that his arch nemesis has lost control of her party and the Dems are in total disarray.

Here's the thing, it would be counterproductive for Pelosi to rush to judgement before the evidence is in as it would make her less influential and weaken her credibility if it all fell apart. She doesn't need to force a vote right now anyway because the House is already pursuing impeachment tracks on multiple fronts with the Judiciary, Oversight and Reform, Ways and Means, and Intelligence committees holding concurrent investigations designed to produce irrefutable evidence, in conjunction with Mueller's report, to build an undeniable case for impeaching Trump.

Pelosi is well aware the timing, and in the run up to the election Democrats will be putting out all the negative information that comes out of the committee hearings. If something so explosive is discovered, it will impact public sentiment, and that is the only thing that might cut across party lines in the Senate and convince 20 Republicans to join Democrats in impeaching Trump.

[redstateblues]

31. I'm with Nancy

I trust her instincts.

[underpants]

32. That's it! GAME OVER! WE DIDN'T LOSE!

[Wounded Bear]

34. Yeah, get back to us when the investigations actually cease...

[Kurt V.]

36. i don't care what the gop says. but more importantly

msm does.

[leftynyc]

41. And I don't see any of THEM

saying she took it off the table either. Only right wingers are saying that and who gives a crap? NOBODY on either CNN or MSNBC has interpreted her remarks the way the nervous nellies here are.