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Ivanka Trump challenges Ocasio-Cortez platform, says Americans don't want 'guaranteed minimum'
Youve got people who will see that offer from the Democrats, from the progressive Democrats, Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez: Heres the Green New Deal, heres the guarantee of a job, and think, yeah, thats what I want, its that simple. What do you say to those people? Hilton asked Ivanka Trump in the interview set to air in full on Sunday.
I dont think most Americans, in their heart, want to be given something. Ive spent a lot of time traveling around this country over the last 4 years. People want to work for what they get, Trump told Hilton. So, I think that this idea of a guaranteed minimum is not something most people want. They want the ability to be able to secure a job. They want the ability to live in a country wheres theres the potential for upward mobility.
https://www.democraticunderground.com/100211864242
It's 100% clear she has no idea what she is talking about OR she does and she doesn't care. Let me tell you all something, I was actually unemployed for a long period of time, about 4 years in fact, the same time Ivanka claims she was traveling around the country. It wasn't a fun time, it wasn't some magical gap period. I was trying, desperately, to find work, any work, I was fine with minimum wage, zero benefit, some travel required, nada. I don't know what it was, but I had no luck period.
I wish there was this "guaranteed minimum" back then; it was a period of humiliation, of dreading every phone call and of the future, of anxiety trying to find out what happened with the hundreds of jobs I applied to, I had a girlfriend back then and I wanted to give her the world but there were times I couldn't even buy her breakfast, I'm still playing catch-up "upward mobility"-wise I know it, and I overcompensate way too hard at every job where I'm underpaid anyway, so I'm wracked with pain giving 110% because I want managers to love me for jobs I'm overqualified for.
At least with her father, even his supporters claim he's not refined, that he doesn't know everything political. Ivanka comes in and she says she's going to be a voice of moderation in the White House, that she's going to have the ear of Daddy. She claims to have wisdom, but she doesn't. At least with Daddy, he's rude and crass up front, her rudeness and crassness comes with the aftertaste. She hides her traits behind a pearly white grin. She talks about "upward mobility" when she was born at the finish line, where does she get off?
Say what you will about Donald Trump, but I say with this last comment, his horrible qualities are refined in his daughter.
What a disgusting woman.
Sherman A1
(38,958 posts)as to worse I don't know and don't really want to dwell on the subject of any of them much.
As to your mentioning of a guaranteed minimum, I believe that topic is one that is very important and that is why I like Andrew Yang's Candidacy for the 2020 nomination. Give him a look if your time permits he has some very well thought out policies and a Universal Basic Income is center point of his campaign.
https://www.yang2020.com
ck4829
(35,038 posts)There should be a place for him in the White House no matter what.
If not the #1 spot then perhaps in the Cabinet. I could see Secretary of Labor, Commerce or along those lines.
mvd
(65,160 posts)As a fan of Bernie, I really like what Yang is proposing.
As for Ivanka, she's extremely entitled and out of touch. Just as ignorant as her dad. They both disgust me. I haven't seen much that Ivanka has helped moderate.
Be of service. His page is worth a long look.
Raven
(13,877 posts)most people want to work for a living BUT they want a fair wage in return. She conveniently missed the second part.
Achilleaze
(15,543 posts)Truly out-of-touch clueless about life in the real world. The KGOP republican faux "royalty" is sucking voraciously at the public tit with their endless emolument scams and gourmet golf goof-offs, meanwhile tossing hard-working taxpayers under the bus with their sucky republican Tax Cuts for the Rich. Now pRincess iVanka pretends to know what the American people want. Right. Clueless KGOP republicans are sad specimens.
Pepsidog
(6,254 posts)Rusted Tin! ☠️
Bettie
(16,071 posts)for ANYTHING?
She's horrible and I've been saying that she's far worse than her evil, nutjob of a father for a long time. She wraps it up in a pretty package...a very carefully curated and chosen package, but as soon as you actually listen to her, she shows that she's much worse and much more dangerous than her unhinged parent.
Oh, this makes me so fucking angry.
watoos
(7,142 posts)than Jr. or Eric. Her name was on the Baku, Azerbaijan tower agreement that laundered money to the Iranian military.
Guy Whitey Corngood
(26,494 posts)Aussie105
(5,327 posts)should be seen and not heard.
Ivanka especially.
Neither her or daddy know how much of America lives. Yet they want to tell us how we feel, what we want?
Pathetic is a word that just doesn't cover it.
She reminds me so much of Marie Antoinette. Keep the peasants downtrodden as they are easier to manipulate that way.
Just waiting for the final scene there, when the Mueller guillotine takes them all down.
rusty quoin
(6,133 posts)Aussie105
(5,327 posts)Make her irrelevant, then ignore her.
Then make her work for sub minimum wage. Serving tables, perhaps?
SammyWinstonJack
(44,129 posts)McKim
(2,412 posts)Thank you, Ivanka! Your callous remark is a gift to the Democratic Party. With that quote we will win a great platform of ideas and a chose a great candidates. She handed us this on a silver platter!!!!!
JI7
(89,239 posts)Botany
(70,447 posts)Ivanka was the Queen in the selling of that scam.
Mjolnir1956
(12 posts)The entire adult Trump family are disgusting bunch of vile humans .In a just world they'd all go to jail for a long time .
Blues Heron
(5,926 posts)which is why they play the lottery every week, spend hours at the casino, etc
llmart
(15,532 posts)And yet I did. She has a lot of nerve saying that people want to work for their money seeing as how she and her entire family have never worked a day in their lives.
Is she worse than her father? I'd say the whole family are about as bad as it gets. They learned their horrible "values" from their awful father, so she may not be worse but she sure as hell isn't any better.
Also, I keep warning people that the plan all along was for her to become the first female president, most likely in the same way as her father became president - by having the Russians steal it for her.
Be wary of her and the media attention she gets. I hope she is taken down when this whole thing blows up and that the whole family is penniless when it's over.
Scarsdale
(9,426 posts)the idea of running for a political position, then the presidency. These tRumps are really something. Not too smart,, but full of themselves. My son is a member of Mensa. When he was laid off from his job, then unemployment ran out, then food stamps he was ready to take ANY job. He was turned down for some jobs in his field, because he was overqualified. He was really excited when a temp. agency called about a minimum wage job - sorting French fries at a food place. He had to pick out the fries with any dark spots on, or too small. The paychecks were small, and usually late. I would LOVE to see any of the tRump "kids" work in these conditions. At least they would not be over-qualified, since they only have the qualification of being daddy's entitled spawn. Finally, he got a REAL job in his field.
maxrandb
(15,295 posts)This is evidence that America...and possibly the entire fucking world has not only crashed through the Looking Glass, but we are now using the broken shards to slit our fucking wrists.
Every fiber of my being, from the deepest depths of my soul, to the tips of my male nipples in the frozen-food section at Harris Teater, knows with a crystalline, pure spar certainty, that I should NOT BE REQUIRED to give ONE-FUCK what this soulless, hell spawn "Netherworld Barbie" has to say about fucking anything
My intellect, my psyche, my conscience, my decency and grace...all tell me that I shouldn't even be required to know who in the fuck these people are.
I know that these lifeless, grifting, vapid, empty vessels deserve NOT ONE NANO-SECOND of my serious thoughts.
These spray-on-tan, Loreal of Paris, plastic, Axe-Body Spray wearing morons SHOULD BE THE MOST FUCKING INSIGNIFICANT PEOPLE WE EVER ENCOUNTER
Their impact on our lives should have the same effect of a fucking gnat blocking the path of a charging rhino.
I will NEVER forgive fucking Donnie Shit for Brains voting morons for requiring me to take seriously A FUCKING BUNCH OF IGNORANT FUCKSTICKS that should NEVER be taken seriously
This fucking family and their supporters, are like dog-shit stuck in the grooves of your tennis shoes.
ChubbyStar
(3,191 posts)Just knowing there are people like you, saying the same things I am saying in my head EVERY damn fucking day, makes me feel better.
Scarsdale
(9,426 posts)I remember during the campaign, miss Botox complained that she had been so busy, she was unable to schedule a massage and she missed it so very much!! I keep hoping she will get a bad batch of Botox, and revert to her original homely faced looks. She was NOT a pretty girl. Daddy bought her a job as a model, and she could not handle that. Then she got cosmetic surgery, and thinks she is some kind of beauty. Her teeth are way too large, and her mouth has trouble trying to form words with all the Botox and fillers she has had. IF she was even half as attractive as she and daddy THINK she is, she would still be strange-looking.
llmart
(15,532 posts)Yes, none of us should be exposed to any of them but our complicit media keeps them in the limelight and are responsible for the ignoramus in the White House and his spawn grifter children whom he gave "jobs" to immediately even though they and he have ZERO experience in anything.
Makes my blood boil.
smirkymonkey
(63,221 posts)calimary
(81,110 posts)Magnificent and fiery as hell! Fun to read!
And yeah, her Chicklets teeth are weird, too big, and dont match her bottom teeth. Rudy Giuliani has that going on only far worse. But she might get there as she ages.
SWBTATTReg
(22,065 posts)mainly for their money and only their money.
rump, ivanka, and the rump boys somehow got it in their minds after people have been kissing their feet for so long (wanting their money) that they know stuff too.
I've known and dealt w/ a couple of people like this and their ethics are non-existent, and their morals are pretty well shot. Their 'intellectual arguments' leaves you with a headache that won't go away for what they say makes no sense what-so-ever. I told one of them to get the 'f**k' away from me (last time I saw them) and never regretted it. These people are literally nuts.
olegramps
(8,200 posts)While most were respectfully decent , there was those who were openly disrespectful and demanding. Regardless everyone of them, especially their damn brats, thought that because they had money that they were above the common lot. When you need a job, you are willing to put up with a lot of crap. I had a friend with whom I worked that happened to meet one of the privileged brats in a nightclub. Although I don't condone violence, I had to smile when I learned that after the jerk made disparaging remark to him about his modest upbringing that he decked the bastard.
SWBTATTReg
(22,065 posts)Some people never learn that it takes a village to do anything now a days, including making money, raising a child, etc. You don't operate in a vacuum in today's world, for eventually, everything comes back to bite you in the a&& if you stir the pot wrong.
jcgoldie
(11,612 posts)This is fucking too rich coming from Princess Ivanka!
crazycatlady
(4,492 posts)That's what Princess Ivanka should do. And Paris Hilton is more useful that Princess Ivanka. At least Paris doesn't play White House adviser and sticks to things like a makeup line at TJ Maxx.
lilactime
(657 posts)Snotcicles
(9,089 posts)Blue Owl
(50,259 posts)PatSeg
(47,260 posts)"People want to work for what they get." Just like the Trump family?
"So, I think that this idea of a guaranteed minimum is not something most people want." Seriously? Coming from a person who's "minimum" everything sets a pretty high bar for the rest of us.
People who have never wanted for anything in their lives should avoid such topics as minimum wage, something she clearly does not understand anyway. She couldn't even begin to imagine living off of $8 or $9 an hour without benefits. Once again the Trump kids should just keep their mouths shut and maybe people will forget what huge assholes they are.
As for disgusting, as bad as this clueless jerk is, she'll never be more disgusting than her father.
dubyadiprecession
(5,678 posts)Ivanka is about as helpful to women as an empty box of tampons.
NewJeffCT
(56,828 posts)she's horrible and out of touch, but at least she hasn't sexually assaulted multitudes of people - AFAIK.
Merlot
(9,696 posts)If she were ever in the position to enact policies you can bet they would affect mulitudes of peoples lives in a negative way.
Firestorm49
(4,029 posts)How touching, and what ironic, hypocritical bullshit.
Still In Wisconsin
(4,450 posts)God, just shut up already Ivanka. Go back to selling your ugly ass made in China shoes and handbags.
Pepsidog
(6,254 posts)ananda
(28,834 posts).. they just get away with it.
Pepsidog
(6,254 posts)and as a Democrat I, for one, am sick of cleaning up their mess. Unlike the 2008 recession, this time people have to go to jail. Just imagine the corruption and dirty deals that are being made at the expense of our country and national security.
ananda
(28,834 posts)Ick
Farmer-Rick
(10,135 posts)Notice she never answered the question. "Heres the Green New Deal, heres the guarantee of a job, and think, yeah, thats what I want, its that simple. What do you say to those people?
The question was NOT about being given something it was about a guaranteed JOB. A job has to be worked. Unlike this little princess who knows nothing about working a real job, most people don't get to sit on their surgically enhanced butts when they get a job. Those jobs are NOT free money like she got when she was born. Those jobs have to be worked satisfactorily and a boss of some kind has to approve of what they do. It's not the end all and be all just to be given a f*cking crappy job. You still have to work. Work, labor is a concept lazy rich white people want you to forget. Because they make their wealth off of NOT paying you what you are worth. They want the profits from your labor. No One in a capitalistic economy is paid what they are worth.
So she successfully turned the discussion away from providing jobs to all citizens to giving away free stuff or minimum wage. But isn't that the implied guarantee in capitalism? We let you rich bastards keep the profits from our labor but you have to give everyone a job? True they don't pay for the true value of that labor but they should at least have enough labor to go around. But they don't and they are so much more rich for it and you are so much more poor for it.
vlyons
(10,252 posts)She's not worth getting angry about. I'm sorry that you had a bad unemployed time. As dreadful and degenerate as the whole Trump family is, I see them as mired in the dark delusions of self-cherishing. Just because they have money doesn't mean that they are happy people. No doubt they sweat bullets of anxiety about what Mueller and the SDNY knows about all their money crimes, perjuries, obstruction, and just down-right treason. Their delusions are so dark that they cannot see the justice that is coming their way.
And yet --- I don't hate them. Anger and hatred are poison. Their bad karma is about to ripen and bear fruit. Karma is just like gravity, in that it never stops working.
ck4829
(35,038 posts)Johonny
(20,818 posts)and work from zip up. Obviously she never did that. It's a joke. Never listen to a born rich person telling you how working hard for the lowest amount someone can legally give you is a road to anywhere.
ailsagirl
(22,885 posts)But I say, NO ONE is worse than that miserable Nazi
Zambero
(8,962 posts)Yes, we're all aware of how very hard Ivanka and her siblings have had to "work" for everything they have. And not to forget dear old Dad! He may have never worked a day in his life, but hey, he's extremely "mobile" (with all those "work-related" trips going to and from Mar-a-Lago).
Solly Mack
(90,758 posts)GoCubsGo
(32,074 posts)Has she raped her spouse, like her father did her mother? Until you can prove she's a sexual predator like her father is, I'm going to have to disagree with you. I'm not saying she isn't equally horrible to worse in other regards, but that surpasses everything disgusting thing about her.
Grasswire2
(13,565 posts)Gothmog
(144,919 posts)I do not like any of the trumps
3catwoman3
(23,947 posts)...color, fake boobs, fake fashion "designer," fake career.
Talk about "fake news" - she is a phony thru and thru.
Guy Whitey Corngood
(26,494 posts)Guy Whitey Corngood
(26,494 posts)adopted since this whole insanity began. I'd seen older footage in which she sounds nothing like that.
Than of course this jackass' wife is a fake architect and is fake "fluent" in a bunch of languages.
Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin
(107,741 posts)MicaelS
(8,747 posts)By which he means have intercourse with her, and the fact she cuddles up to him, tells me she probably has, will or does reciprocate the feeling or act.
So I'd say they are both perverted.
Ruffhowse
(1,442 posts)No warmth at all. She'll fit right in with the other super rich skeleton ladies at Mar-a-Lago someday, slowly rotting while chit-chatting pointlessly amid gaudy decadence.
Scurrilous
(38,687 posts)Hassler
(3,369 posts)Blue Owl
(50,259 posts)n/t
Pepsidog
(6,254 posts)UniteFightBack
(8,231 posts)samnsara
(17,604 posts)Demovictory9
(32,421 posts)hard.
Nevermind that he's only worked one year not on his dad's payroll. He worked at a bar, then ran back to daddy Trump.
And Ivanka - writing that book about getting ahead at work... what a joke! She works for her daddy!!
VOX
(22,976 posts)The entire Trump clan has shit for brains. On top of that, theyre heartless and ruthless.
May they get what they truly deserve, and soon.
Stinky The Clown
(67,761 posts)She is as phony as her chin and her boobs.
thegoose
(3,115 posts)Overly plasticized, overly bleached, overly tooth capped...just like the hideously ornate gilded shit Daddy Dump loves.
Every time someone says something like, "I can't stand her, but she is pretty."
I say NO!!!
musicblind
(4,484 posts)Unlike her Dad, she is smart and doesn't have a mental disorder. She knows what he is doing is wrong but defends it anyway.
Which is worse?
Doing something evil or enabling something evil.
duforsure
(11,884 posts)Who says nothing against children being caged to intentionally damage them for life with their family's , and says and does nothing against it, or to try and stop it shows her contempt for anyone not like her. She's worse than her father allowing this to happen. It shows how cold and abusive she really is. This will come back to haunt her and others who've allowed this to continue. They'll sue them .