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h2ebits

(646 posts)
Sun Feb 24, 2019, 01:55 PM Feb 2019

The Green New Deal and Dianne Feinstein

More on the Dianne Feinstein meeting with kids regarding the Green New Deal:

". . . .But Feinstein was, in fact, demonstrating why climate change exemplifies an issue on which older people should listen to the young. Because—to put it bluntly—older generations will be dead before the worst of it hits. The kids whom Feinstein was talking to are going to be dealing with climate chaos for the rest of their lives, as any Californian who has lived through the past few years of drought, flood, and fire must recognize. . . ."

https://www.newyorker.com/news/daily-comment/the-hard-lessons-of-dianne-feinsteins-encounter-with-the-young-green-new-deal-activists-video

Edited to add: Article written by Bill McKibben of 350.org

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The Green New Deal and Dianne Feinstein (Original Post) h2ebits Feb 2019 OP
The Rude one nails it! Va Lefty Feb 2019 #1
Feinstein is not "in the way". That's nonsense. Republicans are in the way. manor321 Feb 2019 #4
This 'pundit' sounds ignorant. Just read the last line of the lyric...WHO IN THIS COUNTRY WON'T UniteFightBack Feb 2019 #6
So what is he and the young ones doing but bitching and complaining. wasupaloopa Feb 2019 #10
A rare swing and a miss by The Rude One. SunSeeker Feb 2019 #11
It was a dumb political stunt by leftists attacking the Democratic party manor321 Feb 2019 #2
Could you please diss the Republicans and leave the children alone? hedda_foil Feb 2019 #37
I cannot wait until all these young people get in office and fix everything. I mean its so easy UniteFightBack Feb 2019 #3
Definately easier for them LiberalLovinLug Feb 2019 #30
They have no clue about reality. X_Digger Feb 2019 #31
Oh! All the kiddies have to do is wait for some people to die R B Garr Feb 2019 #5
And then the younger generation will be yelling at them saying vote them out they UniteFightBack Feb 2019 #7
Yup, looks like they are being completely manipulated and lied to. R B Garr Feb 2019 #22
"the kiddies " melman Feb 2019 #19
I bet you're fine with derogatory comments about Feinstein's R B Garr Feb 2019 #20
You bet wrong melman Feb 2019 #21
LOL R B Garr Feb 2019 #23
The kids know more about climate change than DiFi? wasupaloopa Feb 2019 #8
Do not agree RelativelyJones Feb 2019 #9
You have to wonder how many have read the actual GND X_Digger Feb 2019 #32
K&R Kurt V. Feb 2019 #12
one wonders if these "kids" get around in gas powered cars and planes or if they all ride their msongs Feb 2019 #13
When one wonders a thing like that melman Feb 2019 #18
Exactly gabeana Feb 2019 #25
You ain't wrong. (n/t) Iggo Feb 2019 #28
Well, OK then . . . hatrack Feb 2019 #34
#facknews ! stonecutter357 Feb 2019 #14
Is Mr. McKibben Aware That The Video Was Edited By A Justice Democrat? Me. Feb 2019 #15
Yes, and you would know this is you read the brief article. aikoaiko Feb 2019 #36
I remember when Jello Biafra ran against Feinstein Mr. Quackers Feb 2019 #16
I hold my tongue Stare Decisis Feb 2019 #17
Its amusing as hell the lengths people are going to make excuses for her vile comments! m-lekktor Feb 2019 #24
I am so glad that MY STATE of Califonria has moved up its primary to Super Tuesday still_one Feb 2019 #27
f**k that. Do this idiots even know Feinstein's record on the environment? This is the same still_one Feb 2019 #26
The Article is Bullshirt Horizens Feb 2019 #29
For this thread Gothmog Feb 2019 #33
Technically she didn't offer the girl an internship, the girl asked for one and Feinstein Autumn Feb 2019 #35
 

UniteFightBack

(8,231 posts)
6. This 'pundit' sounds ignorant. Just read the last line of the lyric...WHO IN THIS COUNTRY WON'T
Sun Feb 24, 2019, 02:04 PM
Feb 2019

LEND A HAND? It ain't Feinstein ...it's REPUBLICANS. Can't believe you are cheering that.

 

wasupaloopa

(4,516 posts)
10. So what is he and the young ones doing but bitching and complaining.
Sun Feb 24, 2019, 02:10 PM
Feb 2019

It is easy to type Dylan’s words. It is much harder to work in the Senate.

SunSeeker

(51,714 posts)
11. A rare swing and a miss by The Rude One.
Sun Feb 24, 2019, 02:13 PM
Feb 2019

This is not a young versus old thing. This is a Democrat versus Republican thing. It is Republicans who are blocking action.

 

manor321

(3,344 posts)
2. It was a dumb political stunt by leftists attacking the Democratic party
Sun Feb 24, 2019, 02:00 PM
Feb 2019

The problem is Republicans funded by the fossil fuel industry to deny global warming. Diane Feinstein is not the problem.

hedda_foil

(16,375 posts)
37. Could you please diss the Republicans and leave the children alone?
Sun Feb 24, 2019, 10:13 PM
Feb 2019

Claiming that they're shills is truly repugnant. What the fuck do you have against a Green New Deal anyway? Because this crap is too Russian trollish for a DUer to even be hinting at.

 

UniteFightBack

(8,231 posts)
3. I cannot wait until all these young people get in office and fix everything. I mean its so easy
Sun Feb 24, 2019, 02:00 PM
Feb 2019

right? All these old folks are just old and in the way..?

Un fucking real.

LiberalLovinLug

(14,176 posts)
30. Definately easier for them
Sun Feb 24, 2019, 04:56 PM
Feb 2019

The "old folks" are primarily made up of politicians, of either party, that have garnered and built up donor money from the corporate sector, some for decades already. And the more they win, the more $ they get for the next run. It becomes less and less in their interest to move the goalposts, even if they talk a great game. OF COURSE it is easier for a fresh, unsaddled, younger member....if they would actually be allowed to operate, to define the agenda.

X_Digger

(18,585 posts)
31. They have no clue about reality.
Sun Feb 24, 2019, 05:18 PM
Feb 2019

If it happened before they can remember, and/or it wasn't covered on youtube, instagram, snapchat, twitch, vimeo, or periscope, then it doesn't exist.

They come to the same realizations we did 30 years ago, but they treat it like the second coming of christ because it's their own idea. Somehow the ideas are better and truer, only because they came to the idea anew (to them).

They expect adoration and attention because they haven't a fucking clue that what they've just discovered is neither as novel nor as simple as they imagine.

And god forbid anyone point that out to the little darlings.

R B Garr

(16,979 posts)
5. Oh! All the kiddies have to do is wait for some people to die
Sun Feb 24, 2019, 02:02 PM
Feb 2019

and then they can do whatever they want! No problemo!

Great idea! It’s so simple!

 

UniteFightBack

(8,231 posts)
7. And then the younger generation will be yelling at them saying vote them out they
Sun Feb 24, 2019, 02:05 PM
Feb 2019

aren't doing enough blah blah blah INSTEAD of taking aim where it needs to be. Un fucking real.

R B Garr

(16,979 posts)
22. Yup, looks like they are being completely manipulated and lied to.
Sun Feb 24, 2019, 02:42 PM
Feb 2019

It’s amazing Justice Democrats can’t explain to the kids themselves how Republicans operate.

R B Garr

(16,979 posts)
20. I bet you're fine with derogatory comments about Feinstein's
Sun Feb 24, 2019, 02:38 PM
Feb 2019

age...? This is a continued ridiculous hit job on Feinstein, mostly rooted in her age. Her environmental record isn’t the issue here...... Those kids were used as props...shameful.

 

wasupaloopa

(4,516 posts)
8. The kids know more about climate change than DiFi?
Sun Feb 24, 2019, 02:07 PM
Feb 2019

Why do we need a Senate? Get a bunch of kids to run things. They will be living in the future.


That’s how kids think.

RelativelyJones

(898 posts)
9. Do not agree
Sun Feb 24, 2019, 02:10 PM
Feb 2019

The GND is a pack of aspirational bumper stickers, not a concrete policy proposal. DiFi is doing the hard work to build meaningful legislation. Using kids as props is shameful...especially against a legislator with a powerful environmental record. Normally I like the Rude Pundit but his response is glib and stupid here.

X_Digger

(18,585 posts)
32. You have to wonder how many have read the actual GND
Sun Feb 24, 2019, 05:20 PM
Feb 2019

I mean it's what, 12 pages, was it? About six pages of meat taking out all the whereas and wherefore's. And none of it concrete.

msongs

(67,443 posts)
13. one wonders if these "kids" get around in gas powered cars and planes or if they all ride their
Sun Feb 24, 2019, 02:25 PM
Feb 2019

bikes and walk everywhere

 

melman

(7,681 posts)
18. When one wonders a thing like that
Sun Feb 24, 2019, 02:35 PM
Feb 2019

they should be aware that it's a lot like the people that say "what global warming? Look at all this snow!1!"

gabeana

(3,166 posts)
25. Exactly
Sun Feb 24, 2019, 04:23 PM
Feb 2019

It's bizarre reading DU last couple of days attacking kids and and organization working to educate them on their futures

hatrack

(59,592 posts)
34. Well, OK then . . .
Sun Feb 24, 2019, 06:42 PM
Feb 2019

I guess that anybody who drives, or rides a train, or flies, or uses electricity is unworthy to comment on the topic.

Thanks for clearing that up!

Me.

(35,454 posts)
15. Is Mr. McKibben Aware That The Video Was Edited By A Justice Democrat?
Sun Feb 24, 2019, 02:28 PM
Feb 2019

Seems like all those who spoke about it this morning weren't, even Heather McGhee, who is usually on top of such situations

aikoaiko

(34,183 posts)
36. Yes, and you would know this is you read the brief article.
Sun Feb 24, 2019, 06:44 PM
Feb 2019

This means that youth carry the moral authority here, and, at the very least, should be treated with the solicitousness due a generation that older ones have managed to screw over. Feinstein’s condescension, though it’s less jarring in the video of the full encounter, which also shows gracious moments—including one when she offers a young person an internship—echoed that of Nancy Pelosi, from earlier this month, when the Speaker of the House talked about “the green dream, or whatever they call it. Nobody knows what it is, but they’re for it, right?”
 

Stare Decisis

(229 posts)
17. I hold my tongue
Sun Feb 24, 2019, 02:33 PM
Feb 2019

until I can discern if there is a fork in the speaker's. When dealing with a legit pioneer progressive like DiFi when in doubt give the benefit of the doubt. A lot of people here bought that video hook line and sinker. Why? Who has more cred? Duh.

m-lekktor

(3,675 posts)
24. Its amusing as hell the lengths people are going to make excuses for her vile comments!
Sun Feb 24, 2019, 02:43 PM
Feb 2019

They are even trashing the kids she sneered at now. unfuckingbelievable.

still_one

(92,409 posts)
27. I am so glad that MY STATE of Califonria has moved up its primary to Super Tuesday
Sun Feb 24, 2019, 04:37 PM
Feb 2019

and what "vile" comments were those?

Do you even know where she stands on environmental issues, because it sure seems you have no idea



still_one

(92,409 posts)
26. f**k that. Do this idiots even know Feinstein's record on the environment? This is the same
Sun Feb 24, 2019, 04:35 PM
Feb 2019

bullshit they tried to pull against Hillary, Pelosi and others, by distorting, misrepresenting, and lying about them

http://www.ontheissues.org/senate/Dianne_Feinstein.htm

 

Horizens

(637 posts)
29. The Article is Bullshirt
Sun Feb 24, 2019, 04:52 PM
Feb 2019

The article is based on a doctored 13 - minute video released by the Sunshine Movement, a group led by and composed of AOC former campaign staffers. The encounter, in fact, was 20 minutes long and, seen in its entirety, sheds a totally different light on Feinstein and the engagement. The edited video is worthy of a James O’keefe Production.

The piece shamelessly manipulates and uses children as props in a hit piece targeting a Senator who has a long and sterling record on environmental issues.

Feinstein did not, as the doctored video implies, walk out yelling at the kids. She departed amicably after encouraging the kids to run for office, offering one of them an internship and mentioning her own recently released climate change resolution far more detailed than AOC’s nothing burger Green Deal – a proposal that is as substantive as a beauty contestants desire for world peace.

AOC (and every group she has spawned/supports) is an albatross for democrats entering the 2020 election cycle.

Autumn

(45,120 posts)
35. Technically she didn't offer the girl an internship, the girl asked for one and Feinstein
Sun Feb 24, 2019, 06:43 PM
Feb 2019

immediately agreed to give her one and told an aide to set it up. Which was an awesome thing for the Senator to do. It's in the video.

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