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Kraft reasoning? (Original Post) louis c Feb 2019 OP
He's making money off of one and paying for the other. n/t gldstwmn Feb 2019 #1
Paying $59 an hour for a prostitute leaves a man in Kraft's position quite vulnerable louis c Feb 2019 #6
The hot dog is bigger. Sneederbunk Feb 2019 #2
And with his money, why didn't he hire a discreet high-priced escort donkeypoofed Feb 2019 #3
It is about the danger. Caliman73 Feb 2019 #5
I think this goes beyond him being a paying customer. Dave Starsky Feb 2019 #7
The $59 is for the massage Blecht Feb 2019 #4
Define normal Caliman73 Feb 2019 #8
Normal reasoning... louis c Feb 2019 #9
You would think that ANY man with any reputation, relationship, assets, etc... Caliman73 Feb 2019 #11
Hubris... dlk Feb 2019 #10
 

louis c

(8,652 posts)
6. Paying $59 an hour for a prostitute leaves a man in Kraft's position quite vulnerable
Fri Feb 22, 2019, 03:24 PM
Feb 2019

Your not just paying for the sex, but for the safety, the discretion, the quality and the cleanliness. If you have $200 in your pocket, a $25 beer and a hot dog is quite expensive. But if you are worth $6.6 Billion, $5,000 for a quality evening with an escort is peanuts.

Caliman73

(11,726 posts)
5. It is about the danger.
Fri Feb 22, 2019, 03:22 PM
Feb 2019

He likely could have had a discreet escort or have just met some woman who was attracted to his money, or power, or whatever.

The likely motive was the "risk". People with money and power may often engage in potentially damaging behavior because the adrenaline caused by the possibility of "getting caught" is what gives them the most pleasure.

Dave Starsky

(5,914 posts)
7. I think this goes beyond him being a paying customer.
Fri Feb 22, 2019, 03:32 PM
Feb 2019

I think he had some other stake in the operation. Because that makes no sense to me, either. Like Charlie Sheen said, you're not paying them that kind of money for the sex. You're paying for them to leave.

Caliman73

(11,726 posts)
8. Define normal
Fri Feb 22, 2019, 03:34 PM
Feb 2019

A billionaire or multi-millionaire is not necessarily a "normal" person. They have access to resources that the citizen with average or even above average income cannot imagine. Also, while most people would like more money and more access to resources than they currently have, there is a difference between wanting "a new car" or "a bigger tv" and focusing on accumulation of wealth and power beyond 99% of the population.

Their views of value and worth are going to be incredibly skewed.

 

louis c

(8,652 posts)
9. Normal reasoning...
Fri Feb 22, 2019, 03:50 PM
Feb 2019

...to go to a fly by night massage parlor for sex on the cheap seems very dangerous for a man with $6.6 Billion and nationwide celebrity. That seems reckless.

I think a normal man with that kind of reputation to protect and that kind of wealth who wanted to engage in that kind of pleasure would be far more discrete and far less reckless.

Caliman73

(11,726 posts)
11. You would think that ANY man with any reputation, relationship, assets, etc...
Fri Feb 22, 2019, 05:29 PM
Feb 2019

would make the same reasoning, but as it stands thousands of men engage in solicitation of prostitutes on a regular basis. As I said in another response in the thread, Kraft was likely actually drawn in to some extent by the illicit nature of the situation. Part of him was likely excited by the risk of engaging in an illegal act, in the idea of actually "buying someone" for sexual pleasure with the chance of getting caught. He probably thought that he wouldn't get caught or suffer any consequences, but the idea that he just might probably piqued his interest in the transaction.

We need to remember that having money does not really impart any additional intelligence, morality, ethics, or other positive traits. Likely, if you were sleazy before you had money, you will be sleazy after becoming rich. What money does is give you the opportunity to have experiences that lead to your growth or "improvement" as a person, like traveling, access to music, plays, books, etc.. the ability to pay for psychotherapy, and other things. We know that Oprah has struggled with her weight because of significant traumas and other factors in her life. She has lost weight then gained it back, then lost, then gained. She uses her wealth the help improve her life and the lives of others, yet she struggles. People like Trump (I admit that I don't know much about Kraft other than he is friends with Trump) Kraft, and other wealthy "jerks" use their wealth to maintain their status and power. I doubt Kraft would admit to needing to improve anything about his personality or behaviors.

If anything, his access to billions likely made him think that he was mostly immune to the consequences of anything that might occur. Risk taking behavior is predicated on thinking that you are not likely to suffer consequences outweighing the benefits of the behavior.

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