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applegrove

(118,503 posts)
Thu Feb 21, 2019, 10:00 PM Feb 2019

McConnell Underwater in Kentucky

McConnell Underwater in Kentucky

February 21, 2019 at 3:26 pm EST By Taegan Goddard 130 Comments

https://politicalwire.com/2019/02/21/mcconnell-underwater-in-kentucky/

"SNIP....

A new Public Policy Polling survey in Kentucky finds just 33% of voters approve of the job Sen. Mitch McConnell (R-KY) is doing, while 56% disapprove and 11% are unsure.

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McConnell Underwater in Kentucky (Original Post) applegrove Feb 2019 OP
Reality About The Puny Tax Cuts Sinking In? ProfessorGAC Feb 2019 #1
Would 55% disaprove enough to vote for a good Democratic candidate? Is there a Kentucky ... marble falls Feb 2019 #2
An attorney who is a massively popular radio DJ there has filed to run in the democratic primary. Blue_true Feb 2019 #3
Matt Jones! Cha Feb 2019 #11
Can a real liberal win in super-conservative Kentucky though? Polybius Feb 2019 #20
I think so. Blue_true Feb 2019 #22
Kentucky isn't as conservative as you might think. Stonepounder Feb 2019 #41
I like this. sheshe2 Feb 2019 #8
Yeah, that's brilliant! Cha Feb 2019 #13
Ha! sheshe2 Feb 2019 #17
Beta. A like it! California_Republic Feb 2019 #16
All depends on who is running against him question everything Feb 2019 #4
Vote his ass out already!!!! Initech Feb 2019 #5
Oh God, you had my hopes up like you wouldn't believe... TheCowsCameHome Feb 2019 #6
Not being election time I though maybe he drove off a bridge. Hassin Bin Sober Feb 2019 #40
About the same % as *Trumpery MagickMuffin Feb 2019 #7
But this has 2 differnt aspects to consider. guillaumeb Feb 2019 #9
Answers madville Feb 2019 #12
Why no on #2? Polybius Feb 2019 #21
The interesting thing about McConnell's lack of popularity with KY Republicans madville Feb 2019 #26
Useful, though dismaying. Thanks. (nt) klook Feb 2019 #32
That is really effed up. smirkymonkey Feb 2019 #35
You'd be surprised Polybius Feb 2019 #37
McConnell wins easily with Trump at the top of the ticket madville Feb 2019 #10
correct....... Takket Feb 2019 #14
or they may interpret "disapprove of" as "would prefer someone more progressive" rather spooky3 Feb 2019 #19
If you look at PPP's past polling data in KY madville Feb 2019 #28
Take a look at the polls ub 2014 just a few days before the election. INdemo Feb 2019 #38
McConnell was between +5% to +9% in 2014 polls leading up a month to the election madville Feb 2019 #43
GOTV and make it a reality. Flush that turd! ffr Feb 2019 #15
McConnell has usually had a low approval rating in Kentucky. Lonestarblue Feb 2019 #18
He's always unpopular madville Feb 2019 #33
Hoping he'll be indicted by then. JudyM Feb 2019 #23
Let him drown ashling Feb 2019 #24
Amen !! SoCalDem Feb 2019 #46
He's one of zentrum Feb 2019 #25
Isn't that normal for him? The Velveteen Ocelot Feb 2019 #27
Yes, same numbers as 2014 and he easily won madville Feb 2019 #31
Mitch doesn't care because he's been told by the BIG MONEY that he's fire proof. Ford_Prefect Feb 2019 #29
Hell he stole the damn election in 2014 and there are some issues that point to the INdemo Feb 2019 #30
teaser Hermit-The-Prog Feb 2019 #34
Don't turtles spend most of the time underwater? n/t rufus dog Feb 2019 #36
Your dreaming if you think we can beat him. GulfCoast66 Feb 2019 #39
The poll that needs to be done is McConnell vs generic Dem. mwooldri Feb 2019 #42
This has definitely been our lucky day! defacto7 Feb 2019 #44
F U C K Fuzzpope Feb 2019 #45
I think whoever runs should focus on Kentucky Buckeyeblue Feb 2019 #47

ProfessorGAC

(64,877 posts)
1. Reality About The Puny Tax Cuts Sinking In?
Thu Feb 21, 2019, 10:02 PM
Feb 2019

Just hazarding a guess. Maybe in conjunction with the shutdown?

marble falls

(57,014 posts)
2. Would 55% disaprove enough to vote for a good Democratic candidate? Is there a Kentucky ...
Thu Feb 21, 2019, 10:03 PM
Feb 2019

"Beto" or "Beta"?

Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
3. An attorney who is a massively popular radio DJ there has filed to run in the democratic primary.
Thu Feb 21, 2019, 10:06 PM
Feb 2019

From what a few people have written about him an DU, he is a real liberal and really sharp guy.

Polybius

(15,340 posts)
20. Can a real liberal win in super-conservative Kentucky though?
Thu Feb 21, 2019, 11:15 PM
Feb 2019

We might need to nominate Manchin II, I fear.

Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
22. I think so.
Thu Feb 21, 2019, 11:22 PM
Feb 2019

Kentucky has places like Louisville and Lexington and other places where universities are located. Most of the state's population is in those places, but their voting percent records are dismal. People need to realize that people that vote get to make the rules, until we as progressives take that to heart and vote in every election, we will continue to complains about asinine republican policies.

Stonepounder

(4,033 posts)
41. Kentucky isn't as conservative as you might think.
Fri Feb 22, 2019, 12:28 AM
Feb 2019

The Rethugs have done a job gerrymandering the state to hold the legislature, but until the Trump debacle, while the legislature was GOP, the Executive was Democrats. For quite a while, the top three, Gov. Lt. Gov and AG, were Dems. The thing with The Turtle is that he access to a huge pipeline of money. His wife's father is a shipping magnate and very wealthy, and McConnell also seemingly has a pipeline into Russian Oligarch money that gets laundered through a number of shell Corporations.

sheshe2

(83,669 posts)
17. Ha!
Thu Feb 21, 2019, 10:50 PM
Feb 2019

This Liberal Sports Radio Host Thinks He Can Take Down Mitch McConnell
He might be right.

Boom.

Let's make it so, Cha. Mitch needs to go!

guillaumeb

(42,641 posts)
9. But this has 2 differnt aspects to consider.
Thu Feb 21, 2019, 10:26 PM
Feb 2019

1) Would these dissatisfied, and presumably GOP, voters actually vote for a Democrat, and

2) Will McConnell have a GOP challenger?

madville

(7,404 posts)
26. The interesting thing about McConnell's lack of popularity with KY Republicans
Thu Feb 21, 2019, 11:36 PM
Feb 2019

Is that 30-40% typically think he is not conservative enough, think about that a minute, those people that dislike him want a Republican farther to the right. Trump is gonna have GOP challengers but none will get over 5% support, he's too popular in the GOP. Primary voters are a different breed than general election voters though. I doubt McConnell is vulnerable in a potential KY GOP primary, he'll pander to the base leading up to the election, get 60-70% in the primary and Trump will probably make a friendly campaign stop for the general.

All these same polls and articles were done in 2014 and had near identical numbers. PPP skews quite a bit to the left as well, their polling in red states is usually 5-10% left of the final results so I consider that error when looking at their data. In 2014 for example, PPP had McConnell +8 right before the election, he won by +15.

Polybius

(15,340 posts)
37. You'd be surprised
Fri Feb 22, 2019, 12:10 AM
Feb 2019

Jesse Helms was 10 times further right. In 2019, Cruz and several others are to his right as well.

madville

(7,404 posts)
10. McConnell wins easily with Trump at the top of the ticket
Thu Feb 21, 2019, 10:32 PM
Feb 2019

KY went to Trump 62% to 32% for Clinton, McConnell will get a good boost from the turnout.

McConnell had the exact same horrible favorability numbers in 2014 and still beat Grimes by 15%, 57-42. PPP pretty much wrote the exact same article in 2014 also:

https://www.publicpolicypolling.com/polls/democrats-within-striking-distance-of-mitch-mcconnell-for-2014/

spooky3

(34,407 posts)
19. or they may interpret "disapprove of" as "would prefer someone more progressive" rather
Thu Feb 21, 2019, 11:12 PM
Feb 2019

than "would prefer someone even more right-wing and loathsome."

madville

(7,404 posts)
28. If you look at PPP's past polling data in KY
Thu Feb 21, 2019, 11:39 PM
Feb 2019

A large portion of the people that disapprove of McConnell in these polls feel that way because they don't think he is conservative enough..........They don't usually consider the Democrat as an answer to that particular problem.

INdemo

(6,994 posts)
38. Take a look at the polls ub 2014 just a few days before the election.
Fri Feb 22, 2019, 12:16 AM
Feb 2019

It was a tug of war. Neck and Neck...then all of a sudden McConnell won by 15%...something was wrong there.

A candidate doesn't gain 11 or 12 percent about the average polling in two days....

I think he could be beat but the challenger must have be able to have an excellent staff to guard against vote flipping etc.

madville

(7,404 posts)
43. McConnell was between +5% to +9% in 2014 polls leading up a month to the election
Fri Feb 22, 2019, 12:36 AM
Feb 2019

They weren't really tied leading up to the election, average from 10/15/14 until election day was McConnell +7.2%. There were some polls months before the election in the margin of error but the gap steadily widened in polling through September and October 2014.

Same thing that year with Abbott and Davis in TX. There were early polls that showed Wendy within 6-8% but as the election draws closer the gap steadily widens and she lost by 20% to Abbott.

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2014/senate/ky/kentucky_senate_mcconnell_vs_grimes-3485.html

Lonestarblue

(9,958 posts)
18. McConnell has usually had a low approval rating in Kentucky.
Thu Feb 21, 2019, 10:54 PM
Feb 2019

I lived in Kentucky for years, and I don’t recall McConnell ever having more than 50% approval. Yet somehow he has always won, with rumors of some vote buying and various other activities that have never been proven. Amy McGrath ran a strong campaign against Andy Barr for the Ky 6th district. Barr comes from a wealthy, politically powerful family in the area. Now that McGrath has more name recognition, she might be a good candidate to take on McConnell.

zentrum

(9,865 posts)
25. He's one of
Thu Feb 21, 2019, 11:35 PM
Feb 2019

...the most powerful men in the country, and one of the most evil. I'm amazed. Could there really be a ray of hope?

madville

(7,404 posts)
31. Yes, same numbers as 2014 and he easily won
Thu Feb 21, 2019, 11:41 PM
Feb 2019

I'm not saying the 15% gap from 2014 can't be narrowed, he could only win by 5-10% this go around.

INdemo

(6,994 posts)
30. Hell he stole the damn election in 2014 and there are some issues that point to the
Thu Feb 21, 2019, 11:41 PM
Feb 2019

fact that he might have had Putin's help back then. How did 2.5 Mill of Russian money end up in his PAC..He doesn't even hide that

GulfCoast66

(11,949 posts)
39. Your dreaming if you think we can beat him.
Fri Feb 22, 2019, 12:25 AM
Feb 2019

Not a Kentuckian but went to college there and still have family living there.

A large percentage of his disapproval is from hard core Limbaugh listeners. Who don’t think Mitch has supported trump enough. Outside of Louisville and Lexington there are nothing but evangelical rubes. Ok, I’m sure there are some on DU who don’t match that description, but they are rare.

They aren’t voting Democratic.

mwooldri

(10,301 posts)
42. The poll that needs to be done is McConnell vs generic Dem.
Fri Feb 22, 2019, 12:34 AM
Feb 2019

Approval ratings matter not. There are plenty of people who do not approve of the job XYZ person is doing, but will vote for them again because they have a R or D by their name.

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