Roger Stone is being sworn in now and will be cross-examined by govt

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Zoe Tillman ✔ @ZoeTillman

Stone's lawyer says the judge's questions would be better addressed by Stone, so Stone is now getting up on the stand and sworn in. This means he'll be able to be cross-examined by the government

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1:43 PM - Feb 21, 2019

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1. Stone says he abused judge's order, and that he's sorry: "I am kicking myself over my own stupidity"

Zoe Tillman @ZoeTillman

Stone says he abused the judge's order, and that he's sorry: "I am kicking myself over my own stupidity."

1:45 PM - 21 Feb 2019

[RockRaven]

5. As recently as a few hours ago he's still posting crap with the hashtag "rogerdidnothingwrong"

so I hope the judge doesn't believe his mewling contrite bulls--t.

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2. Stone says the post was the "outgrowth of the extreme stress of the situation."

Zoe Tillman ✔ @ZoeTillman

Stone says the post was the "outgrowth of the extreme stress of the situation." He says he didn't choose the image, but takes responsibility for posting it.

Stone: "This was an egregious, stupid error for which I apologize to the court."

1:47 PM - Feb 21, 2019

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[sprinkleeninow]

9. Big bull nuggets!!1 🐂 💩 n/t

[NewJeffCT]

16. so, if I rob a bank and I'm caught

can I claim that extreme stress from having to pay for my daughter's college education caused me to do it?

[Dennis Donovan]

3. Directly! Do not pass Go...

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4. Stone says he's having trouble making money right now.

Zoe Tillman ✔ @ZoeTillman

Stone says he was grateful for the initial leeway the judge gave him in her original media contact order. Jackson asks if he's being paid for his commentary about his case. Stone says he is not. He says he's having trouble making money right now.

1:49 PM - Feb 21, 2019

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[Siwsan]

8. Gee, maybe he should have budgeted more carefully and lived beneath his means

Maybe toned down his flash, more than a bit.

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11. Judge asks how being sorry squares with continuing to speak publicly about the Instagram post

Zoe Tillman ✔ @ZoeTillman

Jackson asks how Stone being sorry squares with him continuing to speak publicly about the Instagram post issue after it was taken down. Stone says he was referring to what he saw a distortion of what he posted. He said he didn't have "malicious intent"

1:57 PM - Feb 21, 2019

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[SWBTATTReg]

6. Stress? Yeah, right. You were flouting the rules and taking advantage of the situation and ...

abused your conditions of bail. I hope that the judge throws the book at you (stone) and fines you another big wad of money and increase your bail amount. You're a danger.

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7. Judge: "How hard was it to come up with a photo that didn't have the crosshairs on it?"

Britain Eakin @BritainEakin

Jackson now pressing Stone on his apology, wants to know why he said he didn't select or review the photo. "How hard was it to come up with a photo that didn't have the crosshairs on it," she asks him.

1:51 PM - Feb 21, 2019

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[sprinkleeninow]

15. Forgive us our trespasses as we forgive those who trespass against us.

I do forgive. And now, regarding your breach of the terms of your bail, JAIL. 🏢

😆

[fierywoman]

22. Did you know that in the direct Aramaic to English translation of the next line

says: and let us *not be led* into temptation instead of the King James: lead us not into temptation....

I agree: jail. The King of kinky sex can't really be frightened of jailhouse sex.

[sprinkleeninow]

33. The originals are different than KJV and other versions.

For another example, I understand that the correct translation for "In the beginning..." is actually "In principal..."

Words matter.

[LanternWaste]

36. As does textual criticism...

"Words matter."

As does textual criticism...

[fierywoman]

41. Yes! And then throw into the mix how word-meanings morph over the centuries/millenia ...

[sprinkleeninow]

42. Okay...

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10. Stone says the crosshairs are a Celtic occultic symbol, he discovered, after having researched it.

Britain Eakin @BritainEakin

Stone says the crosshairs are a Celtic occultic symbol, he discovered, after having researched it. When ABJ asks what it means, Stone says, "I don't know your honor, I'm not into the occult."

1:52 PM - Feb 21, 2019

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[Siwsan]

34. I did a little Celtic Symbol research - he's stretching it (Or scrambling. O lying)

The closest I could find is the Ailm

Ailm is the Celtic symbol derived from the A of the Celtic Ogham alphabet. Ailm is assumed to mean “conifer/silver fir”. Conifers were associated with the healing of one’s soul in the tree lore. In that sense, Ailm symbol is interpreted as the symbol of progress/moving forward. It can also be interpreted as a symbol of spiritual journey.

Ailm symbol also represents healing, protection, purification, guidance, fertility, pure energy, clarity, good health, integrity and objectivity.
Evergreen fir trees are strong to survive adverse conditions and grow in spite of them. In that sense, Ailm represents strength, endurance and resilience.

http://mythologian.net/celtic-symbols-meanings/

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12. Stone is now being cross-examined by prosecutor Jonathan Kravis

from the US attorney's office in DC. Kravis asks who posted the Insta post. Stone says he did, he just didn't select the image. Stone says he doesn't remember who provided him with the photo

[Johnny2X2X]

14. He got it from the Russians!

Dude is being investigated and out on bail for colluding with Russians and he attacks the judge with a picture he got from the Russians. Just extremely bold and disrespectful to the court.

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13. Judge is incredulous that Stone can't remember who he got the photo from.

Zoe Tillman: Jackson is incredulous that Stone can't remember who he got the photo from. Stone says he may have gotten it via text or email, or it was saved on his phone by someone else. Jackson asks how many volunteers he has. Stone says 5 or 6.

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17. Stone says he deleted all of the images of Jackson -- plural -- from his phone.

Zoe Tillman @ZoeTillman

Kravis asks if Stone may still have image on his phone. Stone says he deleted all of the images of Jackson — plural — from his phone so he didn't make the same mistake again. Jackson chimes in: "You had a choice?" Stone says yes, he chose the photo. "It was an error."

[nykym]

18. Aparently we need to educate Roger

The white supremacist version of the Celtic Cross, which consists of a square cross interlocking with or surrounded by a circle, is one of the most important and commonly used white supremacist symbols.

More at Link:
https://www.adl.org/education/references/hate-symbols/celtic-cross?fbclid=IwAR1rCAqKXYUXuBgd4h_VaoCpThmopqXh8IVn-dS7u28BRmokO4IJC1kDHz0

[Ms. Toad]

60. Given the site the image came from -

that makes a lot more sense to me than cross hairs.

The symbol was used as part of a background for a number of photos. It appeared as part of a "corruption central" logo, repeated diagnoally in a watermark-style wallpaper behind the head shots

[Tommy_Carcetti]

19. From reading the feeds, he seems to want to blame it on an unknown "volunteer"

And yet somehow still say he's sorry.

I hope Jackson calls him out on this BS.

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20. Judge asks abt Infowars interview he did the same day where he used the phrase "Obama-apptd judge"

Zoe Tillman @ZoeTillman

Kravis and Jackson ask Stone about an Infowars interview he did the same day where he used the phrase "Obama-appointed judge," and statements standing by the text of what he wrote in the Instagram post.

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21. Stone struggles to recall names of his 5 or 6 volunteers -- people who he said have access to phone

Zoe Tillman @ZoeTillman

Stone struggles to recall the names of his "five or six" volunteers — people who he said would have had access to his phone. "It's a revolving situation." Kravis asks if Stone was with anyone when he posted the Insta post. Stone says he doesn't recall, he'd have to think about it

[Johnny2X2X]

23. Stone playing dumb

This was a threat on his judge and he knew it. Even without the White Supremacy symbol / cross hairs he's still publicly attacking the judge. He should be jailed, but it sounds like they're giving him a way out just by saying he's sorry.

[Tommy_Carcetti]

26. This is still on his Instagram page:

Never took it down.

[Hermit-The-Prog]

24. thanks for the play-by-play updates! (nt)

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25. Prosecuter: U can't remember names of volunteers who work for U and had access to urphone 4 day ago?

Brian Eakin @BritainEakin

Kravis: you can't remember the names of all the volunteers who work for you and had access to your phone four days ago? Stone: reiterates that he in fact cannot remember.

[Achilleaze]

29. repulicans are such disgusting liars

republicans need to stop lying to Americans

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27. Govt wants a stronger gag order on what Stone can say out of court.

Zoe Tillman ✔ @ZoeTillman

Jackson asks the prosecutor what they want. Kravis says they want a "further restriction" on the "extrajudicial statements of the parties" — aka, they want a stronger gag order on what Stone can say out of court. Stone's lawyer says there should be no change.

2:16 PM - Feb 21, 2019

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[Tommy_Carcetti]

28. Damn, looks like Roger will remain free for the time being.

Prosecutor wants a stricter gag order but didn't make any request for bail revocation.

If the judge grants that he'll violate it somehow, no doubt.

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30. Prosecutor says that Stone's testimony at today's hearing is "not credible"

Zoe Tillman @ZoeTillman

Prosecutor says that Stone's testimony at today's hearing is "not credible" — he argues that any contrition by Stone now is belied by his actions, that he continued to give interviews and use similar language to the Insta post, and draw attention to those statements

[Johnny2X2X]

31. Prosecutor just asking for a full gag order

Doubt this scum is going to jail today.

[theboss]

39. I don't think that was ever on the table

Honestly, the prosecution would probably be overplaying their hand at this point.

Extending the gag order to him would be more than sufficient.

[MontanaMama]

32. Lock him up.

Don't wait for one of MF45's goons to take a shot at this judge. We have every reason to believe he meant this to be a threat.

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35. Govt says result of Stone's conduct was wide dissemination of image, new threat of jury pool taint.

Britain Eakin @BritainEakin

Gov. says the result of Stone's conduct was the wide dissemination of the image, which could be reasonably construed as threatening, and introduces a new threat of taint to the jury pool.

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37. Judge asks how media attention will subside when Stone gets his name in the paper every day.

Zoe Tillman @ZoeTillman

Jackson says how is she supposed to believe that media attention will subside when Stone gets his name in the paper every day — she notes he kept talking about the issue after he apologized. What would stop him, she asks. Roger asks for time to suggest a narrower order.

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38. Jackson is now taking a 15-minute break to process things.

Zoe Tillman @ZoeTillman

Jackson is now taking a 15-minute break to process things, and then she'll come back and announce a decision.

[backtoblue]

40. Thank you for posting these updates!

[USALiberal]

43. Love the updates! Nt

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44. Judge has shown no patience for Stone's contradictions.

Britain Eakin @BritainEakin

Judge ABJ has pointed out these inconsistencies to Stone throughout the hearing. Haven't been able to capture it all because it's moving very fast but the judge has shown no patience for his contradictions.

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45. Stone told the pretrial services office that he earns $47,000 per month.

Zoe Tillman @ZoeTillman

Another thing of note while we wait: Stone told the pretrial services office that he earns $47,000 per month.

[Takket]

46. .

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bummer

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47. No sign of the judge.

Ryan J. Reilly @ryanjreilly

We're past the 15 minute mark with no sign of the judge. Stone is sitting at the defense table, looking around the courthouse, playing with his glasses and talking with his attorneys. Took a deep breath or two.

[honest.abe]

49. Make him sweat.

I hope she throws him jail to set an example. This kind of behavior is totally unacceptable.

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48. The hearing is back on, Jackson is on the bench.

Zoe Tillman @ZoeTillman

The hearing is back on, Jackson is on the bench.

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50. Judge Jackson says she's not convinced that Stone is all talk. Says post created real risk.

Ryan J. Reilly @ryanjreilly

Judge Amy Berman Jackson says she's not convinced that Stone is all talk. Says the post created a very real risk. "These were deliberate choices."

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51. judge calls his actions "deliberate," and says he couldn't keep his story straight on the stand.

Britain Eakin @BritainEakin

ABJ: concerned that Stone used his platform to incite others who may feel less constrained, which poses a real risk that others with violent inclinations might be inflamed. Calls his actions "deliberate," and says he couldn't keep his story straight on the stand.

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52. Judge: "There is nothing ambiguous about crosshairs."

Zoe Tillman @ZoeTillman

Jackson says Stone is someone who by his own account has made communication his life's work, and he understands the power of words and symbols. "There is nothing ambiguous about crosshairs."

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53. "So thank you for the apology, but it rings quite hollow."

Britain Eakin @BritainEakin

Judge ABJ: "It's the lawyers, not Mr. Stone, who were appalled. So thank you for the apology, but it rings quite hollow."

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54. release under current set of conditions without modification poses a danger to others

Britain Eakin @BritainEakin

Judge ABJ says his release under the current set of conditions without modification does pose a danger to the others and/or the community.

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55. Stone can no longer speak publicly about investigation or case, but he can still fundraise.

Britain Eakin @BritainEakin

Judge ABJ is modifying the gag order. "No Mr. Stone, I'm not giving you another chance. I have serious doubt whether you learned any lesson at all." He can no longer speak publicly about the investigation or case, but he can still fundraise and proclaim his innocence.

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56. Roger Stone is gagged

Shimon Prokupecz @ShimonPro

Roger Stone is gagged

Judge Amy Berman Jackson changes the terms and gags Roger Stone completely.

From this moment on, Stone may not speak publicly about the investigation or the case or any participants in the investigation or the case.

[CabalPowered]

57. He won't be able to help himself

It's just a matter of time before he hangs himself.

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58. If Stone violates this gag order, the judge says she will revoke his bond and detain him.

Zoe Tillman @ZoeTillman

If Stone violates this gag order, the judge says she will revoke his bond and detain him pending trial. Stone is getting a second chance, Jackson says, but this is not baseball — there will be no third chance.

[Hermit-The-Prog]

59. can Stone keep his mouth shut?

There should be a pool on how long before he violates this gag order.