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yardwork

(61,418 posts)
Fri Feb 15, 2019, 02:41 PM Feb 2019

Trump is taking billions from defense and giving it to... who?

Who will be the recipient of the contracts to build the wall?

Trump is taking that money from the Department of Defense. It's taxpayer money, being diverted from national defense, to pay who?

Ask your senators and representatives this question.

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Trump is taking billions from defense and giving it to... who? (Original Post) yardwork Feb 2019 OP
Himself. TrishaJ Feb 2019 #1
Of course. But who else? Who gets the contracts? yardwork Feb 2019 #4
Yes! He always wanted to be a billionaire, this may be his last chance katmondoo Feb 2019 #8
Trump, Kushner met with contractors to discuss building border wall spanone Feb 2019 #2
Who are the contractors? Where willvthe materials be sourced? yardwork Feb 2019 #3
Russia. sheshe2 Feb 2019 #29
Let's hope the contractors are smart enough Turbineguy Feb 2019 #31
That's why he wants it so badly Windy City Charlie Feb 2019 #5
Yep, follow the money. suffragette Feb 2019 #6
Evraz? Chiyo-chichi Feb 2019 #7
Trump said during the shutdown that he already awarded contracts. ProudMNDemocrat Feb 2019 #9
Or give it directly to the Russians. yardwork Feb 2019 #16
maybe the Defense Department bdamomma Feb 2019 #20
Deripaska and therefoee PUtin! lark Feb 2019 #10
Not only that Windy City Charlie Feb 2019 #11
Needs to be exposed. This is outrageous yardwork Feb 2019 #13
Yep FakeNoose Feb 2019 #17
Even more damning, the specs calls for a particulr type of steel, made by only guess who? lark Feb 2019 #21
He wants to funnel it through a PAC back into his pockets, duforsure Feb 2019 #12
Putin. Trump is Stealing the Money to Pay Back His Ill-Gotten Loans Skraxx Feb 2019 #14
Excellent question, yardwork.. Cha Feb 2019 #15
Thank you. I think we need to make a fuss about this. yardwork Feb 2019 #23
Good on your Activist self! Cha Feb 2019 #24
He's probably got a payment due to that Bettie Feb 2019 #18
may be he's bdamomma Feb 2019 #19
I'd bet a percentage will end up with him. He's a crook and that's what crooks do. spanone Feb 2019 #25
To be fair there are many serving who are of Mexican descent BSdetect Feb 2019 #22
They'll be no bid contracts Midnightwalk Feb 2019 #26
Russians lancelyons Feb 2019 #27
Evraz already has the contract. KentuckyWoman Feb 2019 #28
so much for America first...Dems should be shouting about this from the rooftops HipChick Feb 2019 #30
Russian steel? Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Feb 2019 #32
That's the question, isn't it? peggysue2 Feb 2019 #33
Russian oligarchs and Putin kimbutgar Feb 2019 #34

spanone

(135,637 posts)
2. Trump, Kushner met with contractors to discuss building border wall
Fri Feb 15, 2019, 02:44 PM
Feb 2019

from February 2, 2019

President Donald Trump and his son-in-law and senior adviser, Jared Kushner, met with contractors at the White House to discuss building the border wall late last week, two sources with knowledge of the meeting told CNN.

Despite CNN reporting that several senior Senate Republicans and members of GOP leadership have raised serious concerns about the possibility of Trump bypassing Congress and using an emergency declaration to build his wall, the President's meeting with contractors shows that he is seriously considering doing so.

The White House declined to comment on the meeting. White House counsel Pat Cipollone was also present.

Trump came close to declaring an emergency after competing proposals to end the government shutdown both failed in the Senate at the end of January. But aides convinced him that waiting three weeks while a special committee of senators and representatives attempted to hash out a deal was a better idea. Then, if those congressional negotiators couldn't come up with an agreement that funded the wall, he could declare a national emergency.


https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/trump-kushner-met-with-contractors-to-discuss-building-border-wall/ar-BBTd0pb

yardwork

(61,418 posts)
3. Who are the contractors? Where willvthe materials be sourced?
Fri Feb 15, 2019, 02:48 PM
Feb 2019

Why is Trump so determined to build a steel fence instead of a concrete wall? Where is he planning to buy the steel?

Turbineguy

(37,212 posts)
31. Let's hope the contractors are smart enough
Sat Feb 16, 2019, 04:49 PM
Feb 2019

to realize their position if corruption is involved. Lots of people steal from the government, but there are no guarantees they won't get caught.

Windy City Charlie

(1,178 posts)
5. That's why he wants it so badly
Fri Feb 15, 2019, 02:49 PM
Feb 2019

I have no doubts he's promised someone kickback contracts. In the end, either A) the contractors will runaway with the money and no work will get done, or B) it'll be built so shoddy that people will be able to poke holes and walk through it.

ProudMNDemocrat

(16,486 posts)
9. Trump said during the shutdown that he already awarded contracts.
Fri Feb 15, 2019, 03:26 PM
Feb 2019

Bet they were business buddies willing to skim and turn the money to him. Want to bet he is going to pocket hundreds of millions he owes Russians.

yardwork

(61,418 posts)
16. Or give it directly to the Russians.
Fri Feb 15, 2019, 07:46 PM
Feb 2019

Think about it. The president is robbing the Department of Defense and likely giving the money to a hostile foreign government.

Where is the outrage?

lark

(23,003 posts)
10. Deripaska and therefoee PUtin!
Fri Feb 15, 2019, 03:31 PM
Feb 2019

That's who will get the immediate order for steel. Even if the courts stop his building, the steel will be ordered and he will have kept his word to the only one that matters to him almost as much as himself, his master - PUtin.

Windy City Charlie

(1,178 posts)
11. Not only that
Fri Feb 15, 2019, 03:54 PM
Feb 2019

It'll get stuck in the courts due to eminent domain. There's still cases from 10 to 15 years ago stuck in the courts. He knows it'll never get built and has had no intentions to. He's only looking at giving his base something to believe in, because they so badly fall for it each and everytime. It's a money grab and it's what it's always been.


FakeNoose

(32,356 posts)
17. Yep
Fri Feb 15, 2019, 07:49 PM
Feb 2019

That's why they met in Helsinki, I'm guessing. Chump started pushing for the wall ever since then, and suddenly it was a "steel" wall, not bricks or concrete.

lark

(23,003 posts)
21. Even more damning, the specs calls for a particulr type of steel, made by only guess who?
Sat Feb 16, 2019, 09:24 AM
Feb 2019

In the entire world, they are the only ones making this type of steel and that's the exact kind Hair Furor says he has to have. The bill he signed had a clause that no construction would be permitted based on the plans (for Deripaska steel) submitted by orange assmouth.

duforsure

(11,882 posts)
12. He wants to funnel it through a PAC back into his pockets,
Fri Feb 15, 2019, 03:59 PM
Feb 2019

Or they wouldn't get the contract. Just like he and Jared probably got kickbacks from the Prince's arms sales to them, or a payoff from Turkey for policies .

Cha

(295,929 posts)
15. Excellent question, yardwork..
Fri Feb 15, 2019, 05:05 PM
Feb 2019

I had forgotten the Puppet would be stealing money from the US treasury for himself to build his stupid wall.

It's like the Twilight Zone.. I can't wrap my head around it.

yardwork

(61,418 posts)
23. Thank you. I think we need to make a fuss about this.
Sat Feb 16, 2019, 03:12 PM
Feb 2019

I'm going to write to my Republican Senators.

Bettie

(15,998 posts)
18. He's probably got a payment due to that
Fri Feb 15, 2019, 07:52 PM
Feb 2019

Russian oligarch who has a stake in that company that makes the steel slats. Nine billion dollars to the company, nothing ever delivered or built. That's my guess anyway.

bdamomma

(63,658 posts)
19. may be he's
Fri Feb 15, 2019, 07:55 PM
Feb 2019

going to pocket it himself. He has such disdain for the American people, plus he only thinks about himself.

spanone

(135,637 posts)
25. I'd bet a percentage will end up with him. He's a crook and that's what crooks do.
Sat Feb 16, 2019, 04:14 PM
Feb 2019

He justifies all his insane policies in economic terms...

KentuckyWoman

(6,666 posts)
28. Evraz already has the contract.
Sat Feb 16, 2019, 04:30 PM
Feb 2019

EVRAZ plc is a multinational vertically integrated steel making and mining company with headquarters in London, United Kingdom. It has operations mainly in Russia, but also in Ukraine, Kazakhstan, Italy, Czech Republic, the United States, Canada and South Africa

Owner: Roman Abramovich

https://www.evraz.com/ (use the translator - it's in Russian)


BTW the google returns for this search are interesting.
How many shares of Evraz do the Trumps own?

peggysue2

(10,811 posts)
33. That's the question, isn't it?
Sat Feb 16, 2019, 05:16 PM
Feb 2019

Besides the Russian steel owners, I read Erik Prince and Steve Bannon would really, really like a piece of the action. Privatizing the construction, dontcha know?

This is just another pool of money for the Trumpster to sink his dirty mitts into and feign innocence. If I wouldn't trust a man with a $20 bill, why would I trust him with Billions???

Grifters gotta grift.

kimbutgar

(20,882 posts)
34. Russian oligarchs and Putin
Sat Feb 16, 2019, 06:22 PM
Feb 2019

This money will be funneled to them as payback for rigging the election in the orange maggots favor.

I bet the intelligence agencies and the miltary know the maggot is a traitor but they have to bite their tongues and stand by helplessly while he turns our country over to Russia.

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