Paul Ryan savagely attacked by Libertarians at Reason Magazine

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http://reason.com/archives/2012/08/22/paul-ryan-is-a-big-government-conservati#comment

In the Bush years, Ryan voted for everything: No Child Left Behind (which increased the centralization of education), the Medicare drug entitlement, housing subsidies, unemployment-benefits extension, the bank bailouts, and the 2008 subsidies to failing Chrysler and GM. In voting for TARP (the Trouble Asset Relief Program), Ryan said, “Madam Speaker, this bill offends my principles, but I’m going to vote for this bill in order to preserve my principles.”

Ryan is equally committed to intrusive government in other areas. He supported Bush’s wars in Iraq and Afghanistan, voting for all the attendant big spending. When the House took votes on winding down the occupation of Iraq, Ryan voted no. He’s an advocate of the American empire, which endangers Americans physically and fiscally.

His voting record on civil liberties is horrendous. He voted to make the USA PATRIOT Act, a collection of liberty-violating powers, permanent; he voted for warrantless surveillance after Bush got caught doing it illegally; and he voted for indefinite detention without trial or charge.

I love this constant attack on Ryan.

[Scuba]

1. Sweet.

[freshwest]

2. No concern about women's civil liberties or intrusion into their lives. Not a word, but...

Our freedom and prosperity, however, require that government be radically shrunk—which demands liquidation of the empire, respect for civil liberties, and conversion of entitlements to mutual-aid and other private organizations.

More Libertarian fables, the out of sight and out of mind spiel. The family, church and the free market will take care of it. They'll vote for R-MONEY.

The Libertarian Party is straight out the Koch family and has the exact same goals for America, the terms are almost exactly the same.

This is only against Ryan because he wants to use government to achieve his Christofascist goals. They want it eliminated completely, like the Koch family, to force Americans to bow to discrimination and theocracy and slave wages.

They want the privatization of Social Security for the benefit of profiteers. They are against all public workers to shrink government. They are against regulations and labor rights, which they consider to get in the way of the sainted free market.

EDIT: Note their nice article on the 'consistent' Todd Akin position as opposed to the inconsistent Romney. And the comparison Teabaggers used to defend outllawing abortion, calling it equal to the Dred Scott Decision. Civil liberties for men, not women:

http://reason.com/archives/2012/08/22/romneys-rape-exception

[banned from Kos]

3. True. We don't need their votes at all (which will go to Gary Johnson anyway)

The point is that DISCORD is affecting the weak LP/GOP coalition.

[freshwest]

4. They ran Charles Koch and Ron Paul at one time. Their goals are the same. The Koches OWN the GOP.

They'll vote GOP as the closest thing to getting what they want. Their claims of being for civil rights is a joke. Paul would have blacks and immigrants denied their rights. Ryan wants women reduced to livestock. The only civil rights Libertarians support are for entitled, landed, wealthy men.

[Puregonzo1188]

8. Oddly enough the Presidential candidate Koch ran down ticket from was a self-described "low-tax

liberal" whose main issues was an unilateral nuclear freeze on the part of the United States.

Very bizarre history.

[DirkGently]

5. That's about the size of it. Well said.

[freshwest]

6. Good to see you, DirkGently. See you later.

[1StrongBlackMan]

7. Why is ...

Ron Paul so quiet?

Keeping his, and his merry band's, powder dry for the convention?

Please ... Oh, Please ...

[freshwest]

9. His GOP/Libertarian/Tea Party master Charles Koch is there as the ringleader.

He'll wait for his orders from the NY delegate, Koch, with the deepest pockets at the convention.

[1-Old-Man]

10. That was certainly pleasing to read. So much for the Independent vote for Romney

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11. Among readers at least.

TV perception in the key.

[indepat]

12. Surely Paul Ryan is one of the most cruel and cynically unprincipled individuals

to set foot on this heavenly planet during the lifetimes of those now living: he is far outside the outer reaches of the bell curve and our solar system imo.