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barbtries

(28,769 posts)
Thu Feb 14, 2019, 01:53 PM Feb 2019

i like this Pete Buttigieg guy.

Just watched the segment of Morning Joe. He makes a lot of sense. He effortlessly and in a very friendly manner made Joe Scarborough look like an outdated demagogue. I felt as if Joe thought he was throwing all his gotcha questions at him and Buttigieg could not be got. Especially when it came to the question of "socialism" and "capitalism" - he resisted being pigeonholed with great skill.

I really like him. I don't know if he has a snowball's chance in hell of winning the nomination, but I am very impressed. Sadly most of the media will have Schultz on 10 times before they even mention Buttigieg's name (incredibly difficult name!). I hope that changes.

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i like this Pete Buttigieg guy. (Original Post) barbtries Feb 2019 OP
Me too! I told my husband the same thing today!!! secondwind Feb 2019 #1
I told my son! barbtries Feb 2019 #10
I'm on board as well! True Dough Feb 2019 #2
This message was self-deleted by its author NCChomskyan Feb 2019 #3
His responses to questions about the abortion issue were the best I've heard from anyone. Vinca Feb 2019 #4
Based just on his twitter feed and gut feeling I think he has a good shot. marylandblue Feb 2019 #5
i need to go follow his twitter. barbtries Feb 2019 #9
Mayor Pete is the best! murielm99 Feb 2019 #6
I don't know if he can win the nomination; but he is a very strong VP or Cabinet member contender. LonePirate Feb 2019 #7
Heard him do a long interview on the local PBS public affairs program last night. frazzled Feb 2019 #8
I hope he gets enough traction to be included in the debates. barbtries Feb 2019 #11
True dat /nt frazzled Feb 2019 #15
He's setting himself up well for higher office or a cabinet post. Garrett78 Feb 2019 #12
How do you pronounce that? moose65 Feb 2019 #13
Hre you go blogslut Feb 2019 #14
"BOOT-edge-edge" Buttigieg nt State the Obvious Feb 2019 #19
Or "Buddha Judge" :) W_HAMILTON Feb 2019 #30
yes, me too, and told my husband about him librechik Feb 2019 #16
What, no mention of the "E" word? BannonsLiver Feb 2019 #17
He keeps getting hit with that question NCChomskyan Feb 2019 #23
I like Pete a lot BannonsLiver Feb 2019 #25
I have no issue whatsoever with the "lack of experience" point with bullwinkle428 Feb 2019 #29
Mayor Pete for the win LittleGirl Feb 2019 #18
Watched him too. Liked him a lot. pdsimdars Feb 2019 #20
I will happily and eagerly vote for any one of them against ANY Republican. Loubee Feb 2019 #21
You expressed exactly what I saw. True Blue American Feb 2019 #22
Well spoken Traildogbob Feb 2019 #24
Yes! justie18 Feb 2019 #28
Imagine a Klobuchar-Buttigieg ticket. JaneQPublic Feb 2019 #26
lol barbtries Feb 2019 #35
Thanks! JaneQPublic Feb 2019 #36
Check this out. mobeau69 Feb 2019 #27
he was in high school when he wrote that. barbtries Feb 2019 #34
Yes, a very intelligent and educated man. mobeau69 Feb 2019 #38
thanks for all the information. barbtries Feb 2019 #39
Not related. That's from that horrible night in November 2 years ago. mobeau69 Feb 2019 #41
ah, yes barbtries Feb 2019 #42
I do too JustAnotherGen Feb 2019 #31
Here's a link to the full interview blaze Feb 2019 #32
thanks barbtries Feb 2019 #33
This message was self-deleted by its author mobeau69 Feb 2019 #37
I love him! TheCatQueen Feb 2019 #40
LOVE him! elleng Feb 2019 #43
I've tried to stay open to everyone that's running but he's rogue emissary Feb 2019 #44
Feb 14, Morning Joe segment krkaufman Feb 2019 #45
yep that's the one. barbtries Feb 2019 #46

True Dough

(17,246 posts)
2. I'm on board as well!
Thu Feb 14, 2019, 01:57 PM
Feb 2019

And, like you, I think he stands no chance at winning the nomination -- at least not this year. But at 37, he has a bright future. Hopefully he keeps climbing the ladder in the years to come.

Response to barbtries (Original post)

marylandblue

(12,344 posts)
5. Based just on his twitter feed and gut feeling I think he has a good shot.
Thu Feb 14, 2019, 02:04 PM
Feb 2019

I think the winner will be someone who has mastered modern media and can redefine liberalism the way Trump has redefined conservatism. Buttigieg wins on both counts. As the primaries get closer, his media savvy will attract more attention.

I will be looking closely at how he handles the inevitable attacks from the right wing.

barbtries

(28,769 posts)
9. i need to go follow his twitter.
Thu Feb 14, 2019, 02:13 PM
Feb 2019

I'd love to see him gain more coverage. Not ready to send money just yet (recently lost my job), but I will be watching him closely and it could come to that. I could see that happening.

frazzled

(18,402 posts)
8. Heard him do a long interview on the local PBS public affairs program last night.
Thu Feb 14, 2019, 02:12 PM
Feb 2019

He was indeed very impressive: well informed, well spoken, pragmatic yet idealistic, and pretty darned charismatic.

However ... despite the fact that he has done great things for his (fairly small) city of South Bend ... both his age and the fact that no mayor has ever ascended to the presidency mean that his candidacy is very unlikely to go beyond the category of "long shot." But that said, I do think he should persist in it for as long as he can: the chance to make himself known on a national level could ultimately make him a super-strong candidate to run for the Senate from Indiana in the future. And lord knows, Indiana (and the rest of us) could really use a senator such as him!

I hope that is his game plan. In the meantime, his voice will offer a welcome (and quite different) perspective to the debates.

barbtries

(28,769 posts)
11. I hope he gets enough traction to be included in the debates.
Thu Feb 14, 2019, 02:21 PM
Feb 2019

on most media i have seen when they list the candidates they don't even include his name. yet Schultz the billionaire who has capriciously decided that he can be president and can only be a spoiler, is on several shows. it's maddening.

What I really want from every candidate is that they just follow their own beliefs. Don't hedge, don't sidestep, just make the case for what you believe. I feel as if this is what Buttigieg is doing here. I was impressed by Amy Klobuchar (sic?) the other day on Rachel. Kamala Harris ticks all my boxes (young, black, woman), but I've already seen her respond to a question with a non-answer during an interview. I can't recall the specifics but it disappointed me.

Anyhow. Lots and lots of time to see how this all plays out.

Garrett78

(10,721 posts)
12. He's setting himself up well for higher office or a cabinet post.
Thu Feb 14, 2019, 02:29 PM
Feb 2019

By higher office, I'm thinking the US House.

BannonsLiver

(16,294 posts)
17. What, no mention of the "E" word?
Thu Feb 14, 2019, 03:44 PM
Feb 2019

Experience. Needs more. Not ready. Those are what usually follow in any thread about Beto O’Rourke, but so far not a peep about it in this thread despite PG being 10 years younger and having only held a municipal govt. position in a small to medium sized city. Funny that.

 

NCChomskyan

(77 posts)
23. He keeps getting hit with that question
Thu Feb 14, 2019, 04:12 PM
Feb 2019

and he keeps knocking his answer out of the park. It is hard to watch his Morning Joe interview, in its entirety, and come here questioning his experience. At times, the interview felt like they wanted him to fall flat. Brzezinski even presented her first questions as if she was administering a quiz on foreign policy. When they asked about his experience, his answer seemed to leave the table deflated. They were dying for him to step in it, and he never did.

One of his points really stands out: he has more managerial executive experience than many members of both houses of Congress. He's right. There is an urgency in decision making that someone at his executive level has that someone like Beto may not.

I get what you're saying, by the way. I would rise to Beto's defense, as well. Experience is a lark that is trotted out every election year, but never when it actually needs to be applied. I have way more concerns about Howard Schultz's inexperience, for instance, than I do Beto's or Buttigieg's. But the media persists in casting doubt on both, while billionaires with no experience in or even intellectual familiarity with governance get a pass.

BannonsLiver

(16,294 posts)
25. I like Pete a lot
Thu Feb 14, 2019, 04:19 PM
Feb 2019

But am annoyed with and tempted to mock those around here who will raise the experience issue with one candidate and not the other. You seem to get that so not aimed at you but there’s at least 2 people in the thread who have lavished praise on Pete but had “concerns” about O’Rourke almost entirely because of experience.

bullwinkle428

(20,628 posts)
29. I have no issue whatsoever with the "lack of experience" point with
Thu Feb 14, 2019, 04:33 PM
Feb 2019

regards to either Beto or Pete. Once either or both has officially declared his candidacy, they will more than have the chance to prove their readiness to handle the job based on their debate performance, the way they answer the serious questions, how they handle the attacks from the right, etc. Barack Obama certainly didn't have boatloads of experience on the national stage, and look how he handled it...'nuff said!

LittleGirl

(8,279 posts)
18. Mayor Pete for the win
Thu Feb 14, 2019, 04:00 PM
Feb 2019

Honestly, when I heard about my hometown mayor (I haven't lived there in a decade at least, that round), I was shocked. Like, are you kidding me?

But he's the real deal. He's done some great things in town and he's got executive experience, military and is married to his husband. I think that's good enough for me. His father just passed .He was a professor at the University of Notre Dame. Students loved his father. Good family roots. I'd vote for him if I could.

True Blue American

(17,981 posts)
22. You expressed exactly what I saw.
Thu Feb 14, 2019, 04:06 PM
Feb 2019

Telling Joe that Socialist was just a word thrown out when some one had an idea fixed Joe. Joe was determined to make him look bad.

They immediately went to Mika and the panel who allowed him to talk and explain ideas. I have been watching Pete for a long time. Mayor of South Bend, Indiana. Personality, full of Progressive ideas. Sense of humor.

Traildogbob

(8,674 posts)
24. Well spoken
Thu Feb 14, 2019, 04:15 PM
Feb 2019

Was very impressed with all he said. Joe could have kept his pie hole shut about socialism though. We have a very intelligent field of ppl.

justie18

(169 posts)
28. Yes!
Thu Feb 14, 2019, 04:31 PM
Feb 2019

His responses to Joe were so beautiful, it left Joe completely deflated. Then it was time for the rest of the panel - they bombed and he soared!

He is the dark horse candidate.

JaneQPublic

(7,113 posts)
26. Imagine a Klobuchar-Buttigieg ticket.
Thu Feb 14, 2019, 04:21 PM
Feb 2019

I am officially undecided, but I'd root for that ticket just to see the 4-foot-long bumper stickers.

barbtries

(28,769 posts)
34. he was in high school when he wrote that.
Thu Feb 14, 2019, 07:54 PM
Feb 2019

clearly a thoughtful, bright and insightful young man even then.

mobeau69

(11,132 posts)
38. Yes, a very intelligent and educated man.
Thu Feb 14, 2019, 09:07 PM
Feb 2019

I worked for days on an essay about Carolyn McCarthy, who had run for Congress on gun policy issues after her husband was shot and killed on the Long Island Rail Road. I had nearly finished the essay when I went online to research a couple last details— and found out that the previous year’s winner had written about the same person. I would have to start from scratch.

Rushing to come up with an alternate plan, I decided to write about someone I had found even more interesting, if a little more edgy politically. An obscure Vermont congressman, Bernie Sanders, had been reelected for years as a socialist— in a (then) generally Republican state. At a time when vagueness and opportunism in politics seemed to be the order of the day, here was an elected official who succeeded by being totally transparent and relentless about his values. “Socialist” was the dirtiest word in politics, yet he won because people saw that he came by his values honestly. Regardless of whether you agreed politically, it certainly seemed like a profile in courage to me.

https://www.wbur.org/onpoint/2019/02/12/pete-buttigieg-37-president-2020-south-bend-indiana-mayor

After graduating in 2004, he did research for the Kerry-Edwards campaign and worked for former Defense Secretary William Cohen as a conference planner. In the summer of 2005, he sharpened his language skills in a Tunis classroom, where he took a course in Arabic (Buttigieg would likely be the first American president to be conversant in the language, though he admits it has become rusty). Later, he won a Rhodes Scholarship that took him to Oxford for two years, when he studied analytic philosophy, politics, and economics, taking an honors degree in 2007. All of which he put to use back in Chicago in 2007, where he worked for three years at McKinsey & Co., the storied management consultancy, where his salary was more than double his mayoral salary of $102,000. His area of specialty was relatively mundane juxtaposed with his vaunted credentials: grocery store pricing.

https://www.indianapolismonthly.com/features/pete-buttigieg-has-his-eye-on-the-prize/
This is not good.

barbtries

(28,769 posts)
39. thanks for all the information.
Thu Feb 14, 2019, 09:56 PM
Feb 2019

i see that "this is not good" is your sig line, but is there something not good about Buttigieg specifically? i can be dense...

Response to barbtries (Reply #33)

rogue emissary

(3,147 posts)
44. I've tried to stay open to everyone that's running but he's
Fri Feb 15, 2019, 04:13 PM
Feb 2019

A no go fore in the primaries at least. General election is blue no matter who.

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