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ck4829

(35,070 posts)
Wed Feb 13, 2019, 07:50 AM Feb 2019

Just imagine for a second if Jamal Khashoggi was murdered while Obama was President

The same Obama who was a “secret Muslim”, with the same former Secretary of State who was grilled for 11 hours, the same Obama who was accused by the right wing of letting Saudi Arabia bring terrorist training camps into the US (Whatever happened to that meme anyway? Trump said he was going to look into it. What happened?), that same Barack Obama.

If Jamal Khashoggi was murdered when Obama was President and refused to give Senators info on what they know, can anyone imagine that the response would have been "Oh well, we might complain about it... There's more important things to do, like complain about the Jew Gold of George Soros secretly funding the opinions of people we don't like! GEORGE SOROS! And socialism is coming!"?

Anyone?

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Just imagine for a second if Jamal Khashoggi was murdered while Obama was President (Original Post) ck4829 Feb 2019 OP
Benghazi! Istanbul! Benghazi! Istanbul! JustABozoOnThisBus Feb 2019 #1
Saudi Arabia has a friend in the White House this time. keithbvadu2 Feb 2019 #2
Trump loves his handsome Prince Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Feb 2019 #3
Donald realizes that his beloved has a new fella. keithbvadu2 Feb 2019 #5
Shouldn't Democrats be pushing the issue, watoos Feb 2019 #4
Hard to imagine but . . . peggysue2 Feb 2019 #6
Taking it to the next step, watoos Feb 2019 #8
Lovely! peggysue2 Feb 2019 #12
even worse if secretary Clinton were (as she should be) President green917 Feb 2019 #7
I agree, watoos Feb 2019 #11
I completely agree! green917 Feb 2019 #15
Khashoggi wouldn't have been murdered if Obama was President. n/t TygrBright Feb 2019 #9
Exactly, Trump knew of the threat to Khashoggi, watoos Feb 2019 #13
Lets face it, if tRump hasn't been impeached by now after asking for russias hacking help on yaesu Feb 2019 #10
Greenwald wouldn't have rested until impeachment proceedings started... Blue_Tires Feb 2019 #14
There is no reasoning with the right. FiveGoodMen Feb 2019 #16

keithbvadu2

(36,788 posts)
2. Saudi Arabia has a friend in the White House this time.
Wed Feb 13, 2019, 09:05 AM
Feb 2019
https://www.democraticunderground.com/100211290698

Trump, August 2015: I make $40 million, $50 million from Saudi Arabia. I like them a lot.

 

watoos

(7,142 posts)
4. Shouldn't Democrats be pushing the issue,
Wed Feb 13, 2019, 09:30 AM
Feb 2019

that Trump is breaking the law by his non-action on Khashoggi?

peggysue2

(10,828 posts)
6. Hard to imagine but . . .
Wed Feb 13, 2019, 10:14 AM
Feb 2019

when one of the Trumpster's backers--Tom Barrack--has the gall to defend the Saudi's, say that Khashoggi's murder is far less odious than the sins of the West, we shouldn't be surprised. No doubt, Barrack was whispering in the Trumpster's ear, the whole whataboutism tune that's become so popular. This, for instance:

“The atrocities in any ... country are dictated by the rule of law,” he continued. “So for us to dictate what we think is the moral code there, when we have a young man and regime that is trying to push themselves into 2030, I think is a mistake.”

So murder, slicing and dicing a critic is okay because . . . The Rule of Law for tyrants says so and the crime is secondary to the idea of pushing your country into modernity.

Good to know.

And Barrack is one of the zillionaires who would--behind the scenes, of course--rule the world. You know like the Mercers or Peter Thiel, etc. Because money makes you better, smarter, more immune to atrocity as long as you have the Big Picture. And in that Big Picture human decency, the Rule of Law and the quaint idea of democracy is whatever you say it is.

Opinions from the rabble are not appreciated.

Oy!

Would this have happened during the Obama Administration? No, it would not. Nor would the cavalier attitude to murder have happened under any Democratic Administration with advisors defending the indefensible. Because the Rule of Law is not subject to daily interpretation; we're not reading chicken bones or checking the horoscope in the 21st Century.

Sickening!



https://gulfnews.com/business/trump-backer-tom-barrack-defends-saudi-arabia-1.62027403

 

watoos

(7,142 posts)
8. Taking it to the next step,
Wed Feb 13, 2019, 10:39 AM
Feb 2019

one of the topics in Davos was advancing AI so that the super rich can do away with humans. Many of the super rich are in favor of depopulation, Bill Gates included.

peggysue2

(10,828 posts)
12. Lovely!
Wed Feb 13, 2019, 10:44 AM
Feb 2019


This is the endnote for unfettered capitalism: when the system devours itself. And everyone else.

green917

(442 posts)
7. even worse if secretary Clinton were (as she should be) President
Wed Feb 13, 2019, 10:15 AM
Feb 2019

Any Democratic President would have been impeached 2 months in for 1/50th of what we've seen out of the trump misadministration.

 

watoos

(7,142 posts)
11. I agree,
Wed Feb 13, 2019, 10:44 AM
Feb 2019

but Republicans have the advantage of the corporate controlled right wing M$M backing them up.

Too bad that Steyer and Bezos couldn't buy out a cable news network, or start one of their own that was truly unbiased and bipartisan. Fuck that, one that was really liberal. I can pick some of the anchors; Charley Pierce, Stephanie Miller, Keith Olbermann, Dylan Ratigan, yes Thom Hartmann. Now that would be money well spent guys.

 

watoos

(7,142 posts)
13. Exactly, Trump knew of the threat to Khashoggi,
Wed Feb 13, 2019, 10:46 AM
Feb 2019

hell he may have even been a party to it, but nevertheless, he had a duty to inform Khashoggi of the threat to his life.

yaesu

(8,020 posts)
10. Lets face it, if tRump hasn't been impeached by now after asking for russias hacking help on
Wed Feb 13, 2019, 10:43 AM
Feb 2019

national TV through all the blatant obstructing, threatening witnesses, financial irregularities, I don't think he will ever be impeached.

FiveGoodMen

(20,018 posts)
16. There is no reasoning with the right.
Wed Feb 13, 2019, 03:11 PM
Feb 2019

WE understand the hypocrisy, but they never will.

Crush them, or be crushed.

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