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This doesn't mean she's lying or that she wasn't assaulted by Fairfax. But is an example of why Fairfax is entitled to due process and not be treated as a rapist purely because someone said so.
A woman who alleged Virginia Lt. Gov. Justin Fairfax raped her in college was accused of harassing and threatening a man she had a relationship with, according to Maryland court records.
The man sought and received a restraining order against Meredith Watson in July 2008, the records show.
In a petition for the restraining order, obtained by POLITICO, the man described an incident in which Watson was detaining me against my will missing [and] not letting me leave a vacation house in Corolla, North Carolina, and dented the trunk of his vehicle with her fist. In another instance, Watson showed up at his house stating she was going to kill herself and sent threatening text messages to the man, who had his sister come over to persuade her to leave, according to the document.
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I am going to enjoy tearing you down just as much as you enjoyed tearing me down. Hang on tight because you are in for a ride! read one of the alleged text messages that the man transcribed on the petition.
https://www.politico.com/story/2019/02/12/justin-fairfax-virginia-1166298
brush
(53,871 posts)Makes one wonder about her credibility.
No more rushing to judgment, please, You never know what may come out.
Blue_true
(31,261 posts)Duke seem to be running it's own investigation of her claim of talking to a Dean about being raped by a basketball player.
Demit
(11,238 posts)uponit7771
(90,364 posts)Empowerer
(3,900 posts)redstateblues
(10,565 posts)credentials, her credibility has taken a significant hit. The money quote from the text that earned her a restraining order Im going to enjoy tearing you down.
EffieBlack
(14,249 posts)oasis
(49,409 posts)EffieBlack
(14,249 posts)oasis
(49,409 posts)EffieBlack
(14,249 posts)oasis
(49,409 posts)in waiting until more information is brought forward.
EffieBlack
(14,249 posts)It was this second allegation is what prompted many to demand Fairfax's resignation because it was assumed that it showed a pattern that corroborated Dr. Tysons claim. If it turns out Ms. Watson lacks credibility, what do people do with that assumption?
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Baltimike
(4,147 posts)napi21
(45,806 posts)I'm a woman and I know for years, women didn't come forward with complaints of unwanted sexual advances because nobody believed them, and THAT'S WRONG. But it's just as wrong to automatically believe the accusers without proof.
I had a weird feeling when a second accuser came forward about the Lt. Gov. My fear was that Repugs have been doing a lot of very nasty things to gain & keep power. Wouldn't it be easy to jump onto the Va. bandwagon to insure all the Dems in leadership can be booted out and put one of their side in! That may not be what occurred, but it's more important than ever to slow down and perform a thorough investigation on the Governor, the Lt> Governor & is it the 3rd in line the Va. AG who was also accused of criminal behavior? You have to admit it's very, very unusual that the top 3 leaders of any State or organization to all be criminals?
bdamomma
(63,922 posts)even Malcolm Nance commented on it on Bill Maher's show last Friday. Coincidental and planned I think he said.
ecstatic
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if her story is true, I can see how being raped twice in such a short span could lead to severe psychological issues and unhinged behavior.
Hekate
(90,824 posts)...rather dangerous to break up with. Before she left town she slashed all four tires on her ex-boyfriend's car. I hope none of her exes ever has had to defend himself against an accusation by her. She wasn't a Republican, in case you wondered -- my point is that she was not trustworthy solely because she is a woman.
We are in an era where one side --the GOP-- plays politics as a blood sport, the politics of personal destruction. "Dirty" hardly begins to describe it. When I see a state government that has just this cycle turned blue, and suddenly all three Dems at the top are in danger of being turfed out, I really want us all to stop and take a breath before turfing them out. Follow procedure. Investigate.
We are also in an era that can justifiably be called the New Puritanism -- at least on the Democratic side. The GOP doesn't give a rip, but is happy to use this against us. We are so very much at pains to believe any putative victim because of the wrongs of the past (and present) that we have taken to jumping too soon, before any investigation can be done. And, as I say, the GOP is only too happy to help us get rid of Democrats in office while keeping their own immune.
That's why I and a few others have been sounding the alarm about ratfcking. It's very very real.
Beartracks
(12,821 posts)dlk
(11,578 posts)This newest revelation only further underscores the need for an investigation by a credible authority, one experienced with investigating sexual assault. Everyone deserves and is entitled to due process on both sides.
Empowerer
(3,900 posts)attacked for calling women liars, not supporting victims, and worse. But this shows why a credible investigation is critical and why we can't assume someone is guilty of a terrible crime purely on the basis of an accusation.
bdamomma
(63,922 posts)no matter what the accusation is, a full investigation is warranted. That procedure is totally being forgotten.
Due process of the law is being railroaded.